Bwana Mucheru. I think what you are pointing towards is there may be a misunderstanding on these issues (from what I gather).

I would guess that is what dialogue is about. The issue of the KICTANET policy has been raised in this forum and other places a number of times and there has been clouds up until this point. That resonates across very many other issues but I stand corrected on this one. Perhaps maybe there should be a lot more engagement with key stakeholders on such issues Bwana Mucheru. Sometimes silence is loud.

Perhaps to begin with how can we start working out the engagement so that we avoid misunderstandings like these ones?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Joseph Mucheru via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Wow! Such bitterness...

I have pronounced myself on various occasions on Net Neutrality. It's unfair to say we in MOICT ignore this topic. As it stands, what position has the industry given to us policy makers?

As regards the policy, it is at Cabinet awaiting approval alongside other bills and policies.

It will be interesting to know how we at MOICT are playing around with your livelihoods as well..

JM


On 15 Dec 2017 09:04, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Bernard

The answer depends on who you ask.

1. KITOS
2. TESPOK 
3. ICTAK ( That of the ICT Practitioners Bill shame)
4. KICTANET
5. KEPSA

At this point your guess is as good as mine. Which brings me to the question why this case maybe. Why we don’t have an association that can engage Government meaningfully. We, all of us, have ourselves to blame. Each of us is so focused in their own little cocoons and speak with no single voice that the Mandarins and Apparatchiks at MOICT can and will continue to play around with our livelihoods.

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On 15 Dec 2017, at 7:24 AM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:

Thank you Ali.

Reading your response has got me wondering, as an industry which organization/association do we use to lobby ?
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 at 07:19, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Bernard

We in Africa first need to acknowledge Net Neutrality as a concept. Today ONLY one country in Africa (Senegal) has even attempted to enact policy and regulation around it. We have ways to go. 

Kenya, with all our advances have turned a blind eye to it. We need to wake up. This list has consistently for the last 5 years talked about the need to address this issue from a policy and regulatory framework.

We have been met with utter silence. The first time this issue was mentioned was in the defunct/dead as a dodo/aborted ICT Policy 2016. And we know (or rather don’t know!) what happened to that document. 

My take? 

The free for all, do what you want and we (regulator and policy makers) will just watch helplessly coz after all Net Neutrality is a foreign concept. We don’t understand it. And neither are we bothered. Let the Googles, Facebooks and Netflixes of this world fight it out with their FCC. 

It doesn’t affect us..

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On 15 Dec 2017, at 6:30 AM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-repeal-explainer/index.html

Interested to see thoughts on how this affects Kenya. I am thinking maybe hosting locally could avoid this, which would mean growth for local...

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