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Today's Topics:

   1. Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya? (Grace Githaiga)
   2. Re: Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya? (Ali Hussein)
   3. Re: CCK & ISPs to Block of Websites? (Walubengo J)
   4. Re: Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya? (Mark Mwangi)


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Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 09:04:14 +0000
From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>
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Subject: [kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?
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The lawyers have the Law Society of Kenya (LSK), the engineers have the Engineers Board of Kenya (EBK) the doctors have the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentist Board, the media professionals have the Media Council of Kenya while the accountants have ICPAK.  But who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?
http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 16:18:04 +0300
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
To: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?
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Grace

Thanks for bringing this up.

Walu, thanks for the thoughtful piece. Indeed its a major issue. I'm not sure whether we need regulation or a lobby group. Or both? There are various moribund associations that purport to represent ICT in the country. And some new ones that seem to be getting some traction.

Maybe that's why the government doesn't listen to us? We are a Tower of Babel?

Regards

Ali Hussein

+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113

Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
Blog: www.alyhussein.com

"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein

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> On May 6, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> The lawyers have the Law Society of Kenya (LSK), the engineers have the Engineers Board of Kenya (EBK) the doctors have the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentist Board, the media professionals have the Media Council of Kenya while the accountants have ICPAK.  But who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?
>
> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 07:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
To: Victor Kapiyo <vkapiyo@gmail.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy/Strategy <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK & ISPs to Block of Websites?
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@Victor,

Interesting.  I know blogger Alai once in a while gets to sniff the inside story.  I just hope this time he is wrong though :-)

How will GoK manage to succeed where the US Gov failed when they tried to suppress WikiLleaks?  Also the move could be counterproductive in that whatever is "banned" tends to increase curiosity and thus create more followers that it would have otherwise had.  A vicious cycle that that defeats the original intention.

walu.
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On Mon, 5/5/14, Victor Kapiyo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

 Subject: [kictanet] CCK & ISPs to Block of Websites?
 To: jwalu@yahoo.com
 Date: Monday, May 5, 2014, 9:23 PM

 Dear listers,
 I came across this tweet earlier today. I'm
 not sure of the legitimacy of the claim, but could someone
 from CCK, any ISP or lister respond to the allegations /
 shed more light on this?

 Tweet from Robert Alai (@RobertAlai)
  Robert Alai (@RobertAlai) tweeted at 1:22 PM
 on Mon, May 05, 2014:
 Now the govt through CCK wants ISPs to block
 some 15 websites and blogs critical of the government.
 (https://twitter.com/RobertAlai/status/463262331695550464)
 Victor

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Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 18:37:38 +0300
From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
To: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?
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Its not so easy like lawyers or doctors as ict proffessionals dobt have a
core trade. Is there a single set of skklls that an ICT proffessional
requires that he can operate with without specialization?
On May 6, 2014 4:29 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Grace
>
> Thanks for bringing this up.
>
> Walu, thanks for the thoughtful piece. Indeed its a major issue. I'm not
> sure whether we need regulation or a lobby group. Or both? There are
> various moribund associations that purport to represent ICT in the country.
> And some new ones that seem to be getting some traction.
>
> Maybe that's why the government doesn't listen to us? We are a Tower of
> Babel?
>
> Regards
>
> *Ali Hussein*
>
> +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>
> Skype: abu-jomo
>
> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>
> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>
> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
> have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 6, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <
> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> The lawyers have the Law Society of Kenya <http://www.lsk.or.ke/> (LSK),
> the engineers have the Engineers Board of Kenya <http://www.ebk.or.ke/> (EBK)
> the doctors have the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentist Board<http://medicalboard.co.ke/>,
> the media professionals have the Media Council of Kenya<http://www.mediacouncil.or.ke/en/mck/> while
> the accountants have ICPAK <http://www.icpak.com/>.  But who speaks for
> the ICT professionals in Kenya?
>
>
> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html
>
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> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform
> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>
> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>
>
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>
> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform
> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>
> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>
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