All, The Grand Jewel of South Korea economic development is their Education which is comparable to Finland's Schools Success. Education in South Korea is viewed as being crucial for success and competition is consequently very heated and fierce. As Dr Ndemo eluted the success of South Korean government mandated high-speed Internet capacity as a top national mission - and put $60 billion in its budget to make sure it worked. Clyde Prestowitz once said --Some think of South Korea as a developing country - an "Asian tiger" defended by 30,000 U.S. troops and locked in a tense standoff with its counterpart to the North. Its worth saying; If students get an immersion experience overseas, they will be able to put their concerns in perspective and create a framework for future learning about the world. Moreso, cooperative education and training is the long-term answer for improving our workers' ability to adjust to the realities of the 21st century's marketplace. Why Are Finland's Schools Successful? http://www.smithsonianmag.com/people-places/Why-Are-Finlands-Schools-Success... http://www.khanacademy.org/ http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/23/technology/sal_khan_academy.fortune/index.ht... ( I would encaurage KIE to adapt Khanacademy) Some links that maybe of interest: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2062465,00.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_South_Korea http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8601207.stm http://asiasociety.org/education/learning-world/international-benchmarking -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+titus.ngeno=ebix.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+titus.ngeno=ebix.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:48 AM To: Titus Ngeno Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 54, Issue 37 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Korea (bitange@jambo.co.ke) 2. Re: Korea (waudo siganga) 3. Re: Korea (James Mbugua) 4. Re: Korea (william janak) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:19:04 +0300 (EAT) From: bitange@jambo.co.ke To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Korea Message-ID: <665e1e72fe39e3f255acca41d95903f7.squirrel@mail.jambo.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 I arrived in Korea yesterday for a Global e-Government conference. ITU ranks Korea as number one in ICT diffusion. From the airport you see people walk through with an e-passport using biometrics. The New Incheon airport is 70 Kms west of Seoul, the capital and largest city of South Korea with some 11 million inhabitants. It is one of the largest and busiest airports in the world actually the world's fourth busiest airport by cargo traffic, and the world's eighth busiest airport in terms of international passengers in 2010. Korea is about 99,000 sq Kms or one half of the Rift Valley Province of Kenya with a population of 50 million and a GDP of $1 trillion (Kenya's GDP is about $35 billion). In the 60's it was largely a donor recipient country with a GDP less than that of Kenya and more than 60% of its population below poverty. They have turned tables to be a member of the OECD and a donor country over a short period. For many years it mostly depended on the USA as its largest trade partner but over a time they focused their energies on the Asian Markets. Its trade with China, USA and Japan in 2010 figures stands at %190, $98 and $90 billion respectively. They import a great deal of food and the reason why we should not lease our land but use it to improve on our economic growth. A Kg of meat here is $100 imported from Canada and Brazil. I asked our Ambassador why we cannot sell our meat here. He says we do not meat their standards. This should not be a problem since we have broadband in most parts of the country that we can keep pace with the rest of the world in keeping the records especially those required by various standrds organization. Back to Korea. ICTs are also deployed along the highways making it easier to go through the toll stations and collecting all the revenues. You can get data from government at every hour. You can for example know the number of children born in a day throughtout the country. There is CCTV practically everywhere. Crime is approaching zero. There is an over supply of affordable public transport via the rail and bus system all clean and on time. If you choose to drive on your own, you are taxed at every new turn you make. The tax from the polluters who cannot use public transport is used to subsidize the energy efficient public tranportation. Every child after high school has to go through the Military thus instilling the discipline required in this competitive world. Because of such discipline, they do everything very fast. We were literaly running behind our hosts to catch up with them. In the Newspapers there is a Bank executive who has committed suicide because he gave questionable loans to friends. He killed himself for shaming his family and that he may not have any friends. My experience here confirms much of what we have been saying in this forum. The problem is how to inculcate such high levels of ethical standards as well as feeling of shame. Regards Ndemo. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:20:00 +0300 From: "waudo siganga" <emailsignet@mailcan.com> To: bitange@jambo.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Korea Message-ID: <1320762000.28344.140660996213045@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Great to hear of your experiences Bw. PS. I hope Kenyans do not take to suicide after questionable deals otherwise there may be no-one left in the country (light touch)! Waudo On Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:19 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
I arrived in Korea yesterday for a Global e-Government conference. ITU ranks Korea as number one in ICT diffusion. From the airport you see people walk through with an e-passport using biometrics. The New Incheon airport is 70 Kms west of Seoul, the capital and largest city of South Korea with some 11 million inhabitants. It is one of the largest and busiest airports in the world actually the world's fourth busiest airport by cargo traffic, and the world's eighth busiest airport in terms of international passengers in 2010.
Korea is about 99,000 sq Kms or one half of the Rift Valley Province of Kenya with a population of 50 million and a GDP of $1 trillion (Kenya's GDP is about $35 billion). In the 60's it was largely a donor recipient country with a GDP less than that of Kenya and more than 60% of its population below poverty. They have turned tables to be a member of the OECD and a donor country over a short period.
For many years it mostly depended on the USA as its largest trade partner but over a time they focused their energies on the Asian Markets. Its trade with China, USA and Japan in 2010 figures stands at %190, $98 and $90 billion respectively. They import a great deal of food and the reason why we should not lease our land but use it to improve on our economic growth. A Kg of meat here is $100 imported from Canada and Brazil.
I asked our Ambassador why we cannot sell our meat here. He says we do not meat their standards. This should not be a problem since we have broadband in most parts of the country that we can keep pace with the rest of the world in keeping the records especially those required by various standrds organization.
Back to Korea. ICTs are also deployed along the highways making it easier to go through the toll stations and collecting all the revenues. You can get data from government at every hour. You can for example know the number of children born in a day throughtout the country. There is CCTV practically everywhere. Crime is approaching zero.
There is an over supply of affordable public transport via the rail and bus system all clean and on time. If you choose to drive on your own, you are taxed at every new turn you make. The tax from the polluters who cannot use public transport is used to subsidize the energy efficient public tranportation.
Every child after high school has to go through the Military thus instilling the discipline required in this competitive world. Because of such discipline, they do everything very fast. We were literaly running behind our hosts to catch up with them. In the Newspapers there is a Bank executive who has committed suicide because he gave questionable loans to friends. He killed himself for shaming his family and that he may not have any friends.
My experience here confirms much of what we have been saying in this forum. The problem is how to inculcate such high levels of ethical standards as well as feeling of shame.
Regards
Ndemo.
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------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:34:53 +0300 From: James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> To: bitange@jambo.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Korea Message-ID: <CAAp8a6zJNJC7mVp1PNT-LZhCNidxHtHeYYrZ31UouSiO4FX7Jg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" PS That is enlightening stuff. Please also check out the last mile solutions. As I have always told you, I think government should build the fiber to the home with an allocation from the national budget the same way we allocate money for roads. Private sector can't do it and where they do, they will charge an arm and a leg to "recoup investments." They key lesson to be learnt also from those observations is productivity per capita. Kenyans are hard workers but we have inefficient production systems. The amount a Chinese or Korean worker produces in an hour is probably what a Kenyan worker will take a day or two to produce. We must think of ways of improving productivity. Manual labourers must not be allowed to hold this economy hostage with their abysmal production levels and loud, unreasonable politics. If you haven't guessed by now which manual labourers I speak of, think Atwoli and his tea pickers who won't allow mechanization at the farms and the dock workers who won't allow efforts to make the Port of Mombasa more efficient. Economic development theories dictate that mechanization takes place to free up manual labourers to move into other economic sectors. We must look seriously at our level of productivity if we are to develop to Korea's level. James Mbugua On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:19 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
I arrived in Korea yesterday for a Global e-Government conference. ITU ranks Korea as number one in ICT diffusion. From the airport you see people walk through with an e-passport using biometrics. The New Incheon airport is 70 Kms west of Seoul, the capital and largest city of South Korea with some 11 million inhabitants. It is one of the largest and busiest airports in the world actually the world's fourth busiest airport by cargo traffic, and the world's eighth busiest airport in terms of international passengers in 2010.
Korea is about 99,000 sq Kms or one half of the Rift Valley Province of Kenya with a population of 50 million and a GDP of $1 trillion (Kenya's GDP is about $35 billion). In the 60's it was largely a donor recipient country with a GDP less than that of Kenya and more than 60% of its population below poverty. They have turned tables to be a member of the OECD and a donor country over a short period.
For many years it mostly depended on the USA as its largest trade partner but over a time they focused their energies on the Asian Markets. Its trade with China, USA and Japan in 2010 figures stands at %190, $98 and $90 billion respectively. They import a great deal of food and the reason why we should not lease our land but use it to improve on our economic growth. A Kg of meat here is $100 imported from Canada and Brazil.
I asked our Ambassador why we cannot sell our meat here. He says we do not meat their standards. This should not be a problem since we have broadband in most parts of the country that we can keep pace with the rest of the world in keeping the records especially those required by various standrds organization.
Back to Korea. ICTs are also deployed along the highways making it easier to go through the toll stations and collecting all the revenues. You can get data from government at every hour. You can for example know the number of children born in a day throughtout the country. There is CCTV practically everywhere. Crime is approaching zero.
There is an over supply of affordable public transport via the rail and bus system all clean and on time. If you choose to drive on your own, you are taxed at every new turn you make. The tax from the polluters who cannot use public transport is used to subsidize the energy efficient public tranportation.
Every child after high school has to go through the Military thus instilling the discipline required in this competitive world. Because of such discipline, they do everything very fast. We were literaly running behind our hosts to catch up with them. In the Newspapers there is a Bank executive who has committed suicide because he gave questionable loans to friends. He killed himself for shaming his family and that he may not have any friends.
My experience here confirms much of what we have been saying in this forum. The problem is how to inculcate such high levels of ethical standards as well as feeling of shame.
Regards
Ndemo.
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