From: Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke>
To: 'Catherine Adeya' <elizaslider@yahoo.com>
Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 8:04 PM
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
Hey Catherine,
I suppose we have received about 5 copies of this. Did you resent from
your outbox...?
Check, the mail might still be stuck there..
Harry
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kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.keSubject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our
Newsprint
On the contrary Daktari. I am speaking from experience having taught, and
then worked, with editing graduates. It is possible to work very very hard
on something you are not sure about, or not comfortable with, and get the
same result. I do agree that there are some jobs that if you work very hard
and with the right attitude and achieve phenomenal results. However, Daktari
it is not the same with editing. I have worked with a very studious young
editor but he just did not have an eye for copy-editing as hard as he
worked. I finally found the best position for him within the company where
he wrote the initial articles (he did a great job by the way though mixed
his tenses quite a bit& misused punctuation a lot). MJ had passion for what
he did combined with hard work. This young man had the same but he just
could not 'sing' (edit) like MJ even with a lot of practice. He tried so
hard but he
could not be the last eye in the editorial process. In the long
run, everyone was happy. There is room for different levels of editors in
the editorial process but we have to be careful in the hiring process to get
those with the potential/capacity to fit in this process.
Catherine
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:08 CEST
bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
>Catherine,
>I think we are approaching this discussion the wrong way. If you have been
employed to be an Editor, then be the best in the World. You simply have to
take the job seriously.
>
>You need to watch Michael Jackson's "This is it" in order to understand
what taking your job seriously mean. You will begin to understand why he
was good. Similarly, we can have good editors. The Indians have succeeded
in this yet we think we have better
grasp of the language.
>
>There are good Editors out there but they are kept out of the job either
because they do not know someone or have no money to bribe and get the job.
Do we know how the hiring is done? For us to succeed we must first accept
our inadequacies, our rotten habbits, our biases, our tribalist tendancies,
our ...
>
>There is no sabstitute for hard work and transparency. If we embrace these
simple rules, our publications will change over night. It is time we accept
that governance issue for this country does not only affect the Government.
We must get rid of it from our society.
>
>This is the root cause of our bad image in everything we do.
>
>
>Ndemo.
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>Sent from my BlackBerryR
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