Yes Dennis, Take the case of the US for instance. 1 Mb (dedicated) is going for less than $50.in Kenya, it's anything between $500-$800. If the ISPs lowered these rates and leveraged on the numbers (and be innovative around the last mile issue), they will have more users, and Kenyans being industrious as we always are- will roll out VoIP services, etc So, Dkt. Ndemo, stick to your guns.these rates must come down! Edwin From: dennis kipruto [mailto:rutodenis@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:08 AM To: Edwin Onchari Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISPs slap Ndemo Edwin, I also agree with you.100% I beleive that the ISP's arent developing product for the common mwanainchi who want to spend less on Internet. I have been observing the market and there are two potential products that come to my mind. 1. Butterfly from KDN- this is indeed a great idea from KDN but the execution is poor.The internet keeps flactuating, Getting the top up cards is a hustle and further more their charging system isnt that good. 2. loopnet from KDN also a good idea for corporates who want to advertise via this free wifi but the lease period of 3 hrs isn't helping further more there are restriction as to how many people can connect at a time. WAN and MAN area local networks havent been exploited yet. the ISP's need to change their strategy so that they can reach the masses. Advice to them is that they move from the top of the pyramid and focus on the guys with wifi phones or notebooks. rgds, Dennis Kipruto. 0725109106 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> wrote: But isn't the 2.6% penetration their own making? Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beonchari> =lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:39 AM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] ISPs slap Ndemo Hi, The ISPs have now teamed up and agreed that the cost of "International" Internet access will not be coming down soon because we have less than 2.6% penetration. Dr. Ndemo, this is a slap on you, wield your big stick, or sorry not possible you recently handed it over to Orange. There is only one solution to this issue lets concentrate in developing local content thereby reducing the dependence on the over hyped marine cable. But based on the discussions on the commodity exchange system this will be an up hill task as we question the credibility of everyone he tries to setup a local online application or service. I read an article on how Hon. Kilonzo is planning to setup green houses in all the schools in his constituency while the others are trying to provide computers to children who are not able to get a balanced diet. Again I repeat "I am ashamed to be a member of the ICT fraternity" but like was once said by a disgruntled KANU memebrr "I shall remain the opposition within" Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date: 09/22/10 06:34:00 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: rutodenis@gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rutodenis%40gmail.com -- Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date: 09/22/10 06:34:00