Same here - I'd really prefer it if we could stick to ICT and ICT-adjacent topics. Anyone who wants religion will find plenty of other fora for that. On 20 March 2013 20:07, Macharia Gaitho <gaithomail@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur with Nyabuga.
Whether one is agnostic or the opposite, I think there are more appropriate fora designed for these sort of messages
Macharia Gaitho
On 20 March 2013 16:10, George Nyabuga <george@afrinic.net> wrote:
Dear listers,
Being largely agnostic, and a strong believer that we mostly control our destiny, I find the message from the said 'apostle' a lot of gibberish really. I would like to see more meaningful discussions rather than some self-promoting pontification here. I respect his right to say what he wants, and to freely express himself but I am not sure how such dogmatic writings help us advance or consolidate democracy in Kenya.
Dr George Nyabuga Tel: +230 403 51 00 Head, Communications and PR, AFRINIC Fax: +230 466 67 58 george@afrinic.net - www.afrinic.net
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On Mar 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Emmanuel Ochieng < emmanuelochieng797@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings Edith,
Thanks a lot for sharing that valuable message. This will prompt everyone to spread peace and love amongst one another.
Kind Regards, Emmanuel.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
MESSAGE TO KENYA by Apostle Paul Amadi (Notes) on Monday, March 18, 2013 at 10:12pm
The Lord woke me up about 2am on the night of 13th March 2013 with a message to the nation of Kenya, and particularly to the Body of Christ. Before He began speaking to me He showed me the flag and the emblems of the nation, then He showed me the words of the first verse of the national anthem of Kenya (O God of all creation, bless this our land and nation, justice be our shield and defender, may we dwell in unity, peace and liberty, plenty be found within our borders) and also I saw the words PEACE, LOVE & UNITY. I saw that these 3 words were written upon a long slab of rock that had been painted with the colors of the flag of Kenya (black, red, green & white). I also saw that the painting had become greatly disjointed. Neither the words nor the colors were together. It was a broken state.
As I came to the point of tears at what I was seeing, my belly suddenly became very hot and He began to speak: “Why are you following men that shall die? You have forgotten Me, the fountain of living waters, and now seek to men. Can they save you? Can they deliver you? Yet you seek to them. All these are the works of My hands. In the day I call for them all their thoughts perish. Seek to Me. I the Lord I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last. Let your trust be in Me, for I speak and it comes to pass. No man can stop My purposes.
The Lord then brought me to see what was happening around the nation. He showed me Christian homes, men and women speaking and spewing hatred against those who belong to communities of differing political affiliations. And He said to me, “See what My people are doing. Is this what I called you to do? Have I not called you to love one another and to pray for the peace of your nation? Have I not called you to bless and not to curse? How is it then that you have taken sides with the enemy of My people? You are destroying, destroying, destroying everything! Where is love in My people? Where are My intercessors? Where are My watchmen? For your enemy is risen and is even now ready to devour this nation. I have spoken to you over and over again but you do not listen. Yes, you prayed and repented before Me and asked Me to heal your nation, but how can I heal when you are so deeply divided? Have I called you to take sides against one another? Or I have called you to be united. You speak and devour one another, you consume each other with the words of your mouth and at last you yourself will be no more. For while you are cursing one another your enemy is busy strategizing how he will destroy your nation. I speak this to your shame.
Then He continued, “I the Lord have called you to be peacemakers, for so you will be called My sons. I despise those who cause discord among their brethren, and I will oppose them. Repent now of the evil that is in your heart and return to your position. I love those of you who have refused to take sides, who pray to Me because of the land. They are My jewels and I will preserve them. I am your source. O Kenya, look to Me and be saved. If you look to men you will be disappointed, for men will lie to you, but I the Lord am the God of truth; what I speak I will also do. If you do not repent judgment will come to your land and the sword will pass through but if you My people humble yourselves and return to Me then I will heal you and heal your land.
This is the direction the Lord gave me for you: Whom you have spoken against, you must go and face them and seek their forgiveness. And for the servants the ministers, this is what the Lord says to you: “Why have you taken sides in these matters? I have not called you to take sides but to stand before Me and intercede for the land. REPENT!”
And the Lord said, “Begin praying for the healing of this nation, for if you do not do so it will fall apart and you yourself will not survive. I said put your trust in Me but you have gone after men who can do nothing for you. [Just now as I am typing this I heard Him say: I the Lord hold the key to your life]. Stop saying I (i.e. the Lord) am with this one, or that one. I the LORD do not take sides for I am the King of the earth. I respect no persons, but those who fear Me and obey My commandments shall find favor in My sight. Therefore, be zealous and repent. Pray unto Me, love one another, be united and I will restore you once again.”
And the Lord said to me, “This confusion in your elections is caused by the enemy that he may destroy My people. If you do not pray, he shall prevail.”
Who can pray, let him pray, and who cannot pray, let him also pray. The Lord also showed me what the enemy is planning: Chaos, anarchy and bloodshed. Church of God, arise and pray against these things. Spend time with the Father and plead for the sake of this nation. Gather together in your homes and churches and intercede. Cry mightily to the Father, and He who is able shall change the tide and heal our nation.
Verses:
Pro 6:16-19: These six Jehovah hates; yea, seven are hateful to his soul: a proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that plots wicked plans, feet hurrying to run to evil, a false witness who speaks lies, and he who causes fighting among brothers.
Mat 5:9: Blessed are the peacemakers! For they shall be called the sons of God.
2Ch 7:14: if My people, who are called by My name, shall humble themselves and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
Isa 55:6,7: Seek Jehovah while He may be found; call on Him while He is near. Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return to Jehovah, and He will have mercy on him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.
Come on Kenyans, share this message on your timelines so others will also read and take action. The whole nation needs to hear this.
For the Master,
Paul Amadi
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