Happy Ladies Day! If the below statement is accurate to have been from the CS, then this is not about bloggers or pseudonym. " We want to strengthen cyber security so that we have a safe and secure growing digital economy for every Kenyan" Thank you Barrack - animal farm I understand very well. The ring fence must be made accessible when the people inside start throwing stones at each other and to outsiders. I still ask, who/what entity OWNS the Internet (and don't tell me all of us - I know we are users). Just as we are users of the financial services, there is owners who control the sector. All this online tools and apps on the internet ride on their "road" and they must leave tracks. Thus it means in the event of a breach then the OWNER would be the right person to consult. Instead of running around after the enterprises that create the "cars" riding on it. Why do I say this? As digital life takes centre stage into nearly every sphere of human life, Governments who are designed as controllers, policy, keeping law and order etc will reach a point to deny entry into their nations. Because the Governments have no control and the OWNER is not responsive to their expectations. Otherwise again redefine the role of the Government where the internet is concerned. In reality, who bend for the other? Blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15/3/16, Joseph Mucheru via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger To: wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "Joseph Mucheru" <joe@mucheru.com> Date: Tuesday, 15 March, 2016, 20:16 This is still not an accurate representation of what was said...but close On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Barack, from your analogy, are you calling for prosecution of those who don't follow the alleged CS directive? Back to the CS, We may need to get a clarification from him. He may actually have been misquoted. Remember this case where Google was enjoined in a case to provide the identity of a blogger? From the proceedings, Google adamantly refused to do so. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Waiguru-sues-Google--Kenyan-website-for-d... Anne Waiguru v Google Inc & 2 others [2014] eKLR: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/104246/ Regards On 15/03/2016, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hehe Wangari,
I apologize for using complicated terms (POTUS effect) , indeed as you
say, the Internet is a jungle. The best way to regulate a jungle is
through policy and technology as seen in modern day conservancies.
I will attempt to use animal farm analogy ;-)
The other way is to have a fence around the jungle (use of
technology). You can electrify it to make trespassers feel good when
they touch it, that way they pay attention to the fence. Normally when
an elephant touches electric fence it is possible to pinpoint where
that happened, hence technology becomes both a detterent based on the
feeling the animal gets when it touches the fence and a guide on the
bounderies of the jungle as well as a source of information to the
wardens on possible scenes of crime.
I hope this makes sense
On 3/15/16, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
wrote:
Greetings Barrack,
Can the internet justify its being "driven by trust"?
Let us take banking which in the last week has tried to convince Kenyans
not
to run react, that all banks are not falling in Kenya or pulling out of
Kenya through the Kenya Bankers Association adverts.
This is a coordinated effort by the players to have a system that builds
relative trust (note the word relative). Secondly banks operate in a
similar
way - central clearing house which gives the government a point to
reference
with on that is happening in the industry even if there may still be slip
ups and covert activities such as money laundering
The internet appears to the rule of the jungle. Even more the Government
itself seems to have no point to have "real" control or coordination.The
creators seem to have this control.
Perhaps this should've been done when the internet was invented.
Again this also takes us to the question, who owns the internet? Because
they would have all the answers - from control, access, coordination
which
is a role that Governments play in most if not all sectors.Or is the
Government to redefine its role where the internet is concerned?
PS: Na Barrack ukitumia majina makubwa makubwa like Social Engineering -
you
explain.
Blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
---
Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored
Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on
Earth".
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On Tue, 15/3/16, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger
To: wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>, "Nanjira Sambuli"
<nanjira@ihub.co.ke>
Date: Tuesday, 15 March, 2016, 13:49
Many thanks Ebele,
I agree with Nanjira's
postulation. Whereas Cabinet Secretary
Mucheru's view point may be justified to a
certain extent, it wouldn't
be prudent
since it will curtail the growth and developement of the
Internet which has partly been driven by trust.
My humble opinion is
that if we take care of
the Infrastructure issues such as natting, we
don't need to worry about Pseudonym's.
One way would be to encourage
adoption of IP
V 6 which avails an Internet Protocol address for every
device which would in turn make it easy to
trace sources of
information. The government
could also adopt an approach of educate
users through Social Engineering. This is my
opinion but i stand to be
corrected.
Best Regards
On 3/15/16, Ebele Okobi via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
wrote:
> Just a clarification-
> Facebook absolutely agrees that there
should be spaces on the Internet where
>
people can share anonymously, including some of our own
properties, like
> Instagram. That said,
Facebook itself is a space where community and trust
> depend upon people being able to connect
with people they know, so Facebook
>
community standards require people to use names they are
known to use in
> "real"
life.
>
> We do not
proactively moderate for this, but fake accounts are
definitely
> taken down if and when they
are reported to us, and we include mechanisms
> for reporting fake names or accounts
directly in the platform so that anyone
>
on Facebook, whether or not the reporting person has an
account, can
> report.
>
> Screen shot of report
flow pasted below-
> [image1.PNG]
>
> Ebele Okobi | Head of
Public Policy, Africa
> m. +44 (0) 771
156 1315<tel:+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315>
> 10 Brock Street |
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> ebeleokobi@fb.com<mailto:ebeleokobi@fb.com>
>
>
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>
> On Mar 15, 2016, at
9:27 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet
>
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
> wrote:
>
> To me, such a move would be in direct
contravention of article 31 (d) of the
>
Constitution.
>
>
Given that blogging in Kenya is taken to mean anyone with a
social media
> account expressing their
opinions, I think it's a slippery slope. Facebook
> tried to enforce a real name policy, I
believe so did Google, and that
>
didn't bode well.
>
> While I see why the government would want
to take that approach (and could
> be
argued with s 33(2)..), it is worrisome. And "clamping
down" is a
> militant choice of
words...
>
>
> Regards,
> Nanjira.
>
> Sent from my
iPhone.
>
> On 15 Mar
2016, at 02:33,
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