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From: Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Thu, 13 January, 2011 18:02:12
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants

Crystal.

All people are invited .... Some people make time, some don't. I don't
see how the ICT Board should take the blame for that.

If the donkey cannot come to the river .... :)

On 1/13/11, Crystal Watley Kigoni <crystal@voicesofafrica.org> wrote:
> Just one small issue with the "meetings" in Nairobi with particular emphasis
> on those organized by the ICT Board. We need to ensure that the youth KNOW
> when the meetings are and who will be there. Many events are organized and
> the same youth are invited over and over again. It becomes a very elitist
> undertaking. Is there some way to better publicize the ongoings of such
> organizations to encourage increased participation?
>
> Crystal
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> A great African scholar, Prof Mammo Muchie, recently said….to transform
>> Africa…we need leaders who “hate money”!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Your point very well taken!
>>
>>
>>
>> Edith
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:
>> kictanet-bounces+eadera <kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.or.ke@
>> lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *robert yawe
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:21 AM
>> *To:* Edith Adera
>>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe we are missing a critical point and since the PS said "we need
>> to
>> be honest to one another", our so called great developers want the fame of
>> Zuckerberg
>> without the sweat and I request you all watch the movie Social Network to
>> better appreciate what it took to create facebook.
>>
>>
>>
>> To make any major breakthrough you first and foremost need the heart and
>> enthusiasm for what you are doing and not just the vision of the expected
>> financial gain.  When Ronaldinho was horning his soccer skills on the
>> streets of *Porto Alegre **he was not thinking of the billions he will
>> earn when he becomes a star he played for the passion of the sport.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Safaricom is not a charitable organisation and if you actual develop, not
>> imagine, a radically industry shifting product like MPesa or facebook then
>> not only Safaricom but the other players in the industry will beat a path
>> to
>> your doorstep but so long as you put the money before the product then we
>> might as well forget about development.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *I have a live example of 2 law students who spent countless hours with no
>> return to develop what is now the leading electronic version of the laws
>> of
>> Kenya.  When they came to me what they needed was computers, office space
>> and web access, they already had the passion and energy which is something
>> that money can not buy.  *
>>
>>
>>
>> For the icing on the cake, there is another developer who currently runs
>> the site www.live.mystocks.co.ke which is the leading stock market
>> information portal developed the initial site www.mystocks.co.ke from the
>> challenge from me that there where no good developers just programmers in
>> Kenya.  Well he proved me wrong without hin raising the issues of money,
>> partnership, legal environment, government support or standing on giants
>> shoulders. With the way this product is going any serious service provider
>> will soon be blazing a bath to the door.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Let us live up to our peculiar ways and stop textbook approaches to a
>> never before experienced problem, so before you stand on the shoulders of
>> the giant make sure that are aware of your presence there cause one wrong
>> move by the giant and all will be over.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Regards*
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
>> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Wed, 12 January, 2011 19:34:03
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re: Standing on the shoulders of
>> giants
>>
>> The problem is not having a framework.  Watch Social Network, how
>> Zuckerberg created facebook.  On his own, he could not have gone far.  We
>> need to work in teams providing different capabilities and simply be
>> honest
>> to one another.  We cannot succeed if our consideration for capabilities
>> is
>> where you come from.  We mus subordinate our individual interest and pride
>> for the greater benefits that change society.
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>
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>> Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants
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> Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development
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