@Ali,

your comments sound like ITU-WCIT debate Reloaded :-)

Let me be cheeky abit.

If SPAM can ONLY be tackled by technology - why hasn't it been tackled? Indeed the technology that could kill spam (e.g. PKI deployment at IP, SMTP, DNS-SEC, etc- apologies for the Tech jargon) has been with us for over 10years...how come spam refused to die?

Dont get me wrong, I am still civil-society biased. It is just that I get worried when solutions to complex problems are straight-jacketed into one block (tech, political, legal or otherwise). I think the solutions do not lie on ONE of the above, but all of the above.

walu.

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On Fri, 12/6/13, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security
To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 10:59 AM

Walu
I'm of the opinion that Spam is an issue
tackled best by technology NOT legislation...

Ali Hussein
+254 0770
906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will
surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation
of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
wrote:

@Ndemo,

The fact that the raccoon (google says this is some
animal in the US :-) did manage to flood your email with
spam is a confirmation that we do need the cyber-laws even
in Africa :-)

Anyway, whereas I agree with most of your article I
had a comment on this one paragraph :

The industry sometimes lies with
statistics that in most cases do not make any sense.
Gullible nations are spending a fortune on cyber security.
Even countries with less than one per cent Internet
penetration are talking about cyber security.
<<

I was of the opinion that countries with fewer
machines online SHOULD be talking loudest about
Cybersecurity simply because we live in a connected world.
Most IT-savvy cyber-criminals based in developed
economies hijack the few "3rd-world"
(forgive the use of word) networks/computers to launch
attacks in other jurisdictions. Unless there are
laws/frameworks compelling corrective action most of these
local networks will forever remain vulnerable.

However, it also true is that some
autocratic/non-democratic governments are going to ride this
cyber-security bandwagon for the sake of adding more
repression to their citizenry. The civil-society (recently
baptized as evil-society :-) must forever be
watchful.

walu.

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On Fri, 12/6/13, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on
cyber security
To: jwalu@yahoo.com
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 8:12 AM

Hussein,
Some raccoon decided to clog my e-mail with spam
as
punishment because of
the article. I am not opposed to cyber security
but
some people (and you
remember Dubai) want to use cyber security as a basis
for
stifling
internet freedom.

Ndemo.

Grace

Thanks for
sharing. We indeed must tread carefully.
There is definitely a
case for a regulatory
framework. This must however be
tampered with the
understanding that too much
regulation will throttle
the industry. It is a
fine balance that we must
maintain.

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Hussein*

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On Thu, Dec 5,
2013 at 9:20 PM, Grace Githaiga
<ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:

n Kenya, we have done extremely well in
the
adoption of ICTs. This is
a
field
that requires a lot of creativity, but we may
just end up killing
that
creativity with too many rules and regulations
in trying to
counter
computer crime sometimes referred to as
cybercrime
or netcrime.

http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/We-must-tread-carefully-on-cyber-security/-/539548/2098892/-/item/0/-/12mo495/-/index.html

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