@Solomon, Are you sure you want Bobby to answer these questions all over again?? I think Robert has elaborately (falling short of just laying open his plan) discussed several avenues he'd use to turn around PCK. The archives of this list are available at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/, but a clever google search directed towards the same can probably yield better results than the simple search. However, I am not trying to dissuade Robert from answering questions which obviously were not directed towards me:-) On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 13:32, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
Bwana Yawe and listers,
Happy 2012.
The real intent of putting forth this subject, is to interrogate the ability of Yawe, or any other potential cadidature for the position of PMG. Since it has been observed that anyone wishing to be appointed for any public positon needs to satisfy certain requirements, mostly drawn in Chapter 6 of the Constitution of Kenya.
I find three extreme stands on this subject:
1. Those who opine that education is an important aspect for improving the general well-being of an individual 2. Those who do not think education is of any value 3. A stand in-between
While education is important as it opens doors for individuals to gain access to aspects such as economic and social well-being, as long as a person is able to make decisions that are of value towards the improvement of the general society.
My personal view is education shold not be a hinderance to a person's capability.
Back to Yawe or any other interested person.
- Do you still, if the opportunity arises, consider yourself a candidate for the position of PMG? - How would you turn this state corporation profitable, in the shortestt time possible?
Thanks
Regards,
Solomon
On 22 December 2011 12:49, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Dr. Bitange,
The degree in many of the cases where we are insisting they are required have resulted in them being merely paper qualifications and I refuse to be part of this fraud.
It is not that I cannot get a degree overnight, with US$ 1,500/- I can receive a degree from an on-line University in the same way that many of the members of parliament and preachers (Right Left Reverend of the Redeemed Divine and Apostolic Church of the Living and Truly omni potent church of the Rhine) have done.
In your genuine opinion will that degree be worth the paper i will have printed it on?
Since all that is requested is a degree irrespective of which university issued it or the discipline I will have passed the perception test and nothing else, I will be as qualified as the quake doctor is perceived to be trained and licensed because he wears a white "dust" coat and hangs a stethoscope around his neck.
The issue was raised about the preference of UON graduates to those from other local universities, as it is with MIT, Yale and Oxford, it is more about the experience of being among great minds all seeking knowledge while in the right environment what I would call academic ambiance that determines the resultant output (*Mk 4:3-9<http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Mk%204.3-9> )*
Having a University situated above a bar, next to a fish market and below a brothel will never produce the same quality graduate as one that is situated in its own 200 acre campus.
Because of perception we are allowing business people, me included, to dish out paper qualifications as we impoverish families, the more I age the more I digress.
Dr. Ndemo, I again repeat what I said in my previous post that if my appointment was pegged on my having a degree then I rest my case as I will not become an academic fraud by buying a piece of paper to fulfil the perception of society.
As a director of PCK I would request you to have the HR department give you a list of the number of MBA graduates on the payroll of the organisation then answer the question why is it that they are making no change.
PCK has over the years been used as a place to send ageing politically correct politicians and civil servants which is why it has deteriorated to this point, so long as we continue to use perceptions to fill the post of PMG we might as well have the tomb stone cast.
Regards
PS. Most of the former Nairobi Mayors including the famous His Worship Kingori now have degrees as you will see when they present their nomination papers for governor. Also a number of very successful businessmen who are interested in elect office have been enriching students as they pursue university degrees.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
*To:* robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 December 2011, 19:00
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Robert Yawe for PMG Integrity test
Robert, We do not go to University to get papers. Education is a great differentiator in the market. Just as in Marketing, wherever there is plenty of similar products, we tend to differentiate in order to make it competitive.
You cannot avoid using a cologne simply because you think that it adds no value. Research shows that women who use make up are often considered more beautiful even if they are not. These are public perceptions. Perceptions indeed impact on our decision making. Because there are many non-degreed Kenyans, we must find ways of satisfying public perceptions on quality of service from any individual.
If we appointed you PMG and any of the former or sitting Nairobi Mayors claims to deserve it the for having been responsible for a large workforce, we shall be faced with a credible challenge. How shall we then justify your appointment?
The truth is when you will be 50, you will either be having a degree or non at all but with regrets when you discover that there was more to University education than just the paper.
Ndemo.
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