Brian
Now you are spreading rumours, innuendos, and xenophobia. This is an old story and I think things have either changed or are going to change soon.

Every time an African raises these things about ownership of African resources the old donkey is trotted out - see Zimbabwe, Libya, Somalia etc etc etc

When is this going to change? Only when our best and brightest start behaving like they would like our scant resources to be owned by us.

Joe

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Bill, 

V good points.let me ask you how much of the 280 billion that was oversubscribed for Safaricom was local, Kenyan money? Can Kenyans afford to invest (and therefore control) businesses both in and out of Kenya? Yes! But do they? No! 

Everybody goes running after the Safaricoms when the "outsiders" are investing (and taking bigger risk) in tomorrows Unilever.

I know of deals that are being closed right now worth several million dollars with "foreign" investors for businesss that have been round the block locally several times and couldn't even get the time of day from some of our local financiers.

I say its time for us to put *our* money where our mouth is.

Al's point is unshakeable, if you own it you control it. Let us find out ways in which we can own without undermining or destroying our markets (e.g Mugabe)

Brian

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On 14 Jul 2008, at 8:36 PM, "Bill Kagai" <billkagai@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM, <alkags@alkags.com> wrote:
I wonder if protectionist policies would enhance our global competitiveness as a country in the larger scheme of things?

Alkags,
I have written too much (today), but kindly indulge me with this one last post I could not resist because it harbours on what I do for a living - information vending ;-)

You know about Unilver Tea. Basic stats look like this...and another reason why you should subscribe to MediaCorp services

NSE Sector

Agricultural

 

 

Company

Unilever Tea

 

 

Code

UNLV

 

 

Year Of

1925

 

 

Year of Listing

1972

 

 

Issued Shares

48,875,000.00

 

 

Share Float

11

 

 

 

 

 

 

All Time Low

36.00

 

 

All Time High

130.00

 

 

Market Capitalisation (Million)

2.26B

 

 

Par Value

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Top 10 Shareholders

Name

%


Shareholder1

Brooke Bond Group Ltd. -

88.23


Shareholder2

Board of Trustees Of NSSF

2.94

 

Shareholder3

KCB Staff Pension

0.52

 

Shareholder4

UAP Provincial Insurance

0.33

 

Shareholder5

Old mutual life Ass

0.29

 

Shareholder6

BBK Nominees

0.27

 

Shareholder7

Co-op Bank Kenya

0.22

 

Shareholder8

BBK Nominees

0.22

 

Shareholder9

xxxx

 

 

Shareholder10

Ins Co. of East Africa

0.17

 

 

 

 

 

Top10Total Shares

 

93.37

 

 

 

 

 

Profit Before Tax (Year)

[Million]

Profit After Tax (Year)

[Million]

2000

410.00

2000

450.00

2001

420.00

2001

220.00

2002

415.00

2002

130.00

2003

400.00

2003

60.00

2004

450.00

2004

370.00

2005

100.00

2005

70.00

2006

100.00

2006

60.00

2007

 

2007

 

 

 

 

 

Earning Per Share

Kshs

Dividend PayOut

Kshs

2000

9.20

2000

6.00

2001

4.60

2001

2.00

2002

2.50

2002

2.50

2003

1.30

2003

6.00

2004

7.40

2004

8.00

2005

1.40

2005

2.00

2006

1.10

2006

2.00

2007

 

2007

 

P/E Ratio

 

 

 

Bankers

Barclay bank of Kenya,Citibank NA,Cooperative Bank

Registrars

Cooperative Bank Registrars

 

 


My point
Foreigners hold 88% of the company and thus in a position to make board decisions regardless of the African investors thinking after all..they holding only 12%. Some investors bought into this company at more than kshs 100 and when it ceased trading, shares were moving in the 40-45 range. The shares will be called back because the foreigners agenda is different and there intention is not to make money for the local investors. [Country of origin and Fair trade issues]. The local investors including NSSF, KCB pensioners and many more Wanjikus have been screwed.

RVR is coming next.

Joe is therefore really not far from the point...if Unilever lesson is anything to go by. We need a unified approach ...If you want to do business in Kenya...get Kenyan partner...is simply not enough...

We need to get Kenyans in decision making positions also.

PS. Regarding Flo's kind request to facilitate...
Ownership of the process is what is critical. Locals should not only drive but own and ultimately be responsible for the direction they take. You have done well...but maybe...as Frank Sinatra would sing...its time for MY WAY.

Ciao,
Bill
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