+1 John Gitau.. Technical progress will happen, we are not isolated ({digression} this goes for any service provider not in tune with ipv6 too) these transitions are better handled alongside the global migrations, it is easier, cheaper and allow us to be a part of the change and not guys forced to it later because suddenly there is no analog content, at which point we/they will still complain. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke>wrote:
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 06:53:23 +0300 From: John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> To: "Song, Stephen" <stephen.song@gmail.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Message-ID: <4F27019D-AD97-4BB8-B965-3AE48EA1208D@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
We really can't all be expected to gravitate towards the lowest common denominator so everyone can be happy. Consumers willing and able to buy set top boxes have rights too, so do investors in the technologies to deliver digital tv and other infrastructure.
Technical progress will happen, we are not isolated ({digression} this goes for any service provider not in tune with ipv6 too) these transitions are better handled alongside the global migrations, it is easier, cheaper and allow us to be a part of the change and not guys forced to it later because suddenly there is no analog content, at which point we/they will still complain.
Jgitau
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On 20 Dec 2012, at 22:38, "Song, Stephen" <stephen.song@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Robert,
Your argument would hold true if everyone paid the same taxes or if all taxes came from the same source. Would it not be reasonable to subsidise the STBs through revenue earned from the auction of the mobile spectrum that is freed up as a result? If the mobile operators are benefiting from the freed spectrum, this seems like a reasonable quid pro quo.
-Steve Song
Hi Kivuva,
Please note that for the government to subsidize the STBs they will need money which they will raise through taxes which means that at the end
On 20 December 2012 12:04, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: the same people who did not have the money to buy the unsubsidized decoders will pay through additional taxes, therefore which is the lesser evil?
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To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2012, 12:16
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance
Round1. The bell rings. The court has stopped the switch over pending hearing and determination of the case.
When we switched to 2G, 3G, and future LTE, did we force all mobile users to migrate to high end phones? Did we switch off mulika mwizis?
If the government cannot subsidize the set boxes, give Kenyans ample time save for the gadgets.
At the pace some people at CCK and the ministry are moving, I would not be surprised to learn they have tonnes of containers of setboxes at Kilindini waiting to pounce on poor man's pockets.
On 20/12/2012, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
In the end, a frustrated government will enter into a deal with
Huawei to
mass produce and import low cost or subsidised FTA decoders, and Huawei will make millions in profit and Kenyans will have won the battle and lost the war.
Somehow related, voter registration took 30 days. On day 30, huge queues were seen at centres at 8 pm, way past the 6 pm closing time for the exercise. For the other 29 days, clerks were idle, Facebooking and soaking in sun at the registration centres as few bothered registering.
Meanwhile, I shall laminate this epic piece and hang it on a wall, to remind me that millions in the country have no access to 2G, despite 2G been the base of all GSM networks.
Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).
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