If i May from .UG I have followed the discussion queitly with keen interest. I think the idea of getting our local population into some sort of gainfull employment should always be the primary objective. However how we do this especially when we are attempting to use government funds to achieve this objective has to be a carefully thought out strategy with clear deliverables and exit strategy. On that note i totally object to any use of public funds to be used as operational expenditure especially in terms of bandwidth subsidy. Government should look at creative ways of facilitating BPO’s through skeems like interest free loans to BPO’s with clear repayment plans once profitability is achieved. This way we safeguard the meagre public funds available to our governments but also avoid public funds being spent on unsustainable business plans. The future of any structure is always set at the foundation level. There’s no doubt BPO in any format is going to be very key for the future of our economys by just the shear number of the population we can bring into the earning bracket and it’s not the size of the paycheck that makes the difference but the consistency since it creates money circulation. So i think we have to in a way drop our facination with getting jobs from abroad done in kenya or Uganda but look at how many local services we can outsource to create more jobs. Underlining rule on subsidies mainly being CAPEX and not OPEX. Regards From: kictanet-bounces+ntegeb=one2net.co.ug@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+ntegeb=one2net.co.ug@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Catherine Adeya Sent: 05 June 2009 14:57 To: ntegeb@one2net.co.ug Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 4 of 10- BPO Discussions, Govt Subsidies Walu et. al., In answering the question, I believe incentives for incentives sake of course will not get us anywhere as a country. It is a natural question to ask why we need the incentives anyway? However, I do not believe incentives should be given simply because potential competitors are giving them. But we should look at our situation and ask is there something that is curtailing the industry from developing as it should? Could a little incentive spur the growth? If so what would it cost us to do it even if only for a little while (such as, the bandwidth subsidy). This is especially in an environment like the BPO industry (ICT sector by extension) where no one is waiting for us to play catch up and if we want to compete we must get the structures in place and/or encourage those who can. We have decided that this is a key pillar in our Vision 2030 but we are moving slower than anticipated. What do we need to get us from Point A to B in a realistic time frame. I totally agree with Dr Ndemo that we must benchmark with similar countries, Kenya is not an ‘island’. Nyaki _____ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: elizaslider@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 1:30:43 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 4 of 10- BPO Discussions, Govt Subsidies Listers, Incentives sometimes distort economic progress. If we were all compliant, the tax rate would be very low that one may not need any incentives. In Mauritious for example, they lowered taxes and removed incentives. Everybody was happy as the revenue authority collected more revenue and investors trooped there because of lower taxes. It may have been easier to do that in a small country but if we emphasized work ethics and honesty, we shall all benefit. In the absence of that, we must benchmark those countries with similar social, political and economic problems. I am thinking about Philipines and to some extent India. I especially need way forward on this to make suggestions to Trade as they develop new incentives for the Special Economic Zones. As for ownership, I take the most liberal approach. Ndemo.
MM,
I like your point. We should have a very strong basis for the incentive scheme that we create for BPOs. Mauritius abolished their incentives on the basis that the country did not benefit significantly from them. This did not stop the inflow of investment. The question is, how critical are incentives to attractiveness as a BPO destination? My humble submission is that attractiveness is a balanced of many factors and it should not be surprising that one can be attractive even without "incentives" as most people understand them. tm
On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 09:34 +0300, muriuki mureithi wrote:
Hi Walu
I agree that incentives for a young industry is necessary we need to think through the basis that guides the incentives
Today's discussion begs the questions - why do the bpos need an incentive in the first place? Does the industry have barriers that ordinary business strategies cannot overcome and therefore need a push? What is the boundary between baby-sitting the industry and therefore weakening it and incentive framework for growth and for how long? And if we cross-subsidise with resources from other sectors, when will this sector pay back to that sector or support other sectors to also grow? Should we incentivise the sector because other countries are doing it?
Unfortunately I do not have the answer for these questions but my view is that we should be very clear on the issue of incentives. Our framework for incentives should not be driven by what other countries are doing and then copy them but rather quantify the non-business barriers to bpo business and then provide resources to overcome the challenge. These resources of course go beyond fiscal measures and the effort should translate the benefit to whatever sector funded the incentives.
Thus at the national level the cost/benefit of any such incentives should compete favourably with other national options. The treasury will be looking at the commitment set out in v2030 of 10000 jobs and ks10b and accept to forego tax revenue in the same measure. We start with low target and that limits the incentives the sector can get - a higher target should galvanise more incentives and higher prioritisation Cheers MM
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.k e] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: 05 June 2009 07:48 To: mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Day 4 of 10- BPO Discussions, Govt Subsidies
-Dear Listers,
I must thank all for your insights over the last few days. I like the challenge that asked whether we are "over-regulating" an emerging market as the "answer" to the question on if we have legal and regulatory gaps. Listers are encouraged to challenge and not just answer the questions. Other arising issues included where we want to play within the BPO Value Chain, the Impact of the Political (in-)stability, the need to map our Data Protection laws to those in the target markets are just but some of the highlights I picked - and by all means this is NOT exhaustive as am still reading through the contributions.
But today we need to open the theme on Government subsidies. The Researchers found the S.Africa and India had elaborate subsidy provisions for the sector that included Tax Holidays and Exemptions, Investment Grants to BPO operators, Training Subsidies, One-stop shop for Corporate Company Registrations that could be 100% foreign owned, etc. The Researchers noted the unique Mauritius case which had similar incentives but eventually abolished most of them arguing that they were more beneficial to the Operators than to the Nation.
On the Kenyan front - other than the not so succesfull Govt Bandwidth subsidies for Operators, very little in terms of incentives was available to BPO Operators. It was noted that the BPO operators had to be within the EPZ in order to enjoy the subsidies other EPZ corporates operates - the problem being that most BPO operaters exist outside the EPZ area. Whats more, BPO operators had to pay additional charges to be registered by the CCK (Regulator) and should be at least 20% locally owned.
Qtn6: What incentives / subsidies should the government provide to BPO operators? What of the clause requiring 20% Local shareholding in foreign companies - is it prohibitive or helpful?
Floor is open comments.
walu. Encl: Synthesis 2:- Subsidies and Incentives
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