On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:41 PM, John Maina <
j.maina@ymail.com> wrote:
> Alex
>
> I think you have a problem solve it. You should have banned me longtime ago
> since I think you think that when you have a corrupt mind then all should
> have corrupt minds. I dont wish to be on your Kenya internet users where you
> have nominated yourself to represent Kenyans. You dont believe in democracy
> and so I dont wish to continue being in Kenyan Internet users. OK? Remove me
> ASAP
>
> That list I think is very limited in reach and importance ndugu. ban people
> from more important lists
>
> JM
>
> ________________________________
> From: Alex Gakuru <
gakuru@gmail.com>
> To: Patrick Mutiso <
pmutiso@telkom.co.ke>
> Cc: John Maina <
j.maina@ymail.com>; Mwende Gatabaki
> <
mgatabaki@ktdateas.com>; Brian Longwe <
blongwe@gmail.com>; Brian Munyao
> Longwe <
brian@caret.net>;
ke-internetusers@bdix.net
> Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [kictanet] Satement by Brian
> LongwefromPanel on Access in Main Session of Internet GovernanceForum,
> Hyderabad, India 3rd Dec 2008
>
> Members have clearly stated their opinion that Brian owed is an
> apology for wrongful denial of his bona fide nationality. This list
> exists for the purpose of advancing consumer interests not fighting
> personal vendettas/lobbying for other self-interests or any such other
> thing that distracts us from our vision, mission, and objective. In
> any case, as stated by Mwende, this list will not be part of mass
> mailing lists that promote xenophobia-like attitudes.
>
> Should 'John Maina' continue with these personal mass lists attacks on
> the individual, then I will now be compelled to completely ban that
> email subscription from this list.
>
> BTW, Human beings are creatures of habit.....
>
>
> 2008/12/3 Patrick Mutiso <
pmutiso@telkom.co.ke>:
>> John,
>>
>> If CCK which is a government body accepts a non-Kenyan as you say to sit
>> on
>> the board then he qualifies to represent us at the IGF. I happen to know
>> him
>> as a Kenyan and I agree with Mwande..you truly owe Brian an apology, and
>> even all of us. Your language feels like its made to attack, and that is
>> not
>> cool.
>>
>> Patrick Mutiso
>> ________________________________
>> From:
ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net on behalf of John Maina
>> Sent: Wed 12/3/2008 17:30
>> To: Mwende Gatabaki; Brian Longwe; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; Brian
>> Munyao Longwe
>> Cc:
picta-kenya@yahoogroups.com;
ke-internetusers@bdix.net
>> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [kictanet] Satement by Brian
>> LongwefromPanel on Access in Main Session of Internet GovernanceForum,
>> Hyderabad, India 3rd Dec 2008
>>
>> Mwende
>>
>> Brian is not a Kenyan. Why is he representing Kenya? He is malawian and he
>> sits on CCK board. There is nothing to apologise on telling the truth
>>
>> JM
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mwende Gatabaki <
mgatabaki@ktdateas.com>
>> To: John Maina <j.maina@ymail..com>; Brian Longwe <
blongwe@gmail.com>;
>> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Brian
>> Munyao Longwe <
brian@caret.net>
>> Cc:
picta-kenya@yahoogroups.com;
ke-internetusers@bdix.net
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 5:14:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: [ke-internetusers] Re: [kictanet] Satement by Brian Longwe
>> fromPanel on Access in Main Session of Internet Governance
>> Forum,Hyderabad,
>> India 3rd Dec 2008
>>
>> John;
>>
>>
>>
>> ….I really think you need to revise your attitude or your language – or
>> both. This is the kind of thing
>>
>> that made us kill each other at the beginning of this year.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ps: I think you owe Brian an apology.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mwende
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From:
ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net
>> [mailto:
ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net] On Behalf Of John Maina
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:35 PM
>> To: Brian Longwe; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; Brian Munyao Longwe
>> Cc:
picta-kenya@yahoogroups.com;
ke-internetusers@bdix.net
>> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [kictanet] Satement by Brian Longwe
>> fromPanel on Access in Main Session of Internet Governance Forum,
>> Hyderabad
>> , India 3rd Dec 2008
>>
>>
>>
>> KICTANET
>>
>> Why is a Malawian representing Kenya at the IGF? Do we lack enough Kenyans
>> to sit on Kenyan boards and also represent Kenya abroad? This is
>> disgusting
>> and the earlier the masqueraders like Brian Longwe and the bunch of
>> foreign
>> attack dogs are told off the better.
>>
>> JM
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Brian Longwe <
blongwe@gmail.com>
>> To:
j.maina@ymail.com
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 3:15:20 PM
>> Subject: [kictanet] Satement by Brian Longwe from Panel on Access in Main
>> Session of Internet Governance Forum, Hyderabad , India 3rd Dec 2008
>>
>>
>> Brian Munyao Longwe – Main Session on Access (Development Perspective)
>>
>> Traditionally teledensity has been used as a measure of access or the
>> extent
>> to which communication technologies have pervaded a community..
>>
>> In the past Africa as a region has recorded extremely low fixed-line
>> teledensity of below 1% that is less than 1 line per 100 people. Believe
>> it
>> or not this is still the case!
>>
>> However, when one incorporates mobile lines in a teledensity analysis -
>> the
>> results are not only incredible, they are amazing. as of 2007, Africa 's
>> mobile teledensity stood at an impressive 23% or 23 lines per 100 people.
>> There was a recorded growth in mobile users from 128 million in 2006 to
>> over
>> 215 million subscribers by 2007. This represents an annual growth of over
>> 46%. We have just heard that India 's mobile network is growing at an
>> incredible rate of over 10 million new connections per month!
>>
>> Given the fact that most operators around Africa have rolled out GPRS/EDGE
>> coverage across most of their networks as well as deployment of 3G access
>> across their larger markets it is entirely feasible that mobile, not
>> broadband may present the opportunity for increased access for developing
>> countries. MOBILE and not BROADBAND is the silver bullet.
>>
>> Another key element crucial to the growth of access in developing
>> countries
>> is a suitable environment for the dispersion of relevant content and
>> applications that meet the day to day needs of the populace. Internet
>> Exchange Points are the primary critical ingredient needed to create these
>> conditions. By keeping all locally originated and requested traffic local,
>> Internet exchange points serve a crucial role in enhancing the user
>> experience, lowering operational costs and providing a suitable framework
>> for the growth and development of the Internet in general.
>>
>> While many developing countries have adopted policies and regulations that
>> encourage and promote competition in the mobile sectors, which has
>> resulted
>> in continued growth in the numbers of users, the establishment of IXPs has
>> received a relatively low priority - despite the significant impact that
>> such simple infrastructure presents to the community.
>>
>> Access enhances the interface between government and the citizen at a
>> transactional level.. The Kenya Revenue Authority last year suggested that
>> the Kenya Internet Exchange Point receive "critical infrastructure" status
>> with 24-hour armed guard due to the fact that 100% of all import/export
>> declarations and documentation transit the IXP via the revenue authority's
>> web-based platform.
>>
>> Going back to mobile, Safaricom, a Kenyan mobile operator introduced a
>> money
>> transfer service called M-Pesa less than two years ago. M-Pesa now has
>> over
>> 4 million subscribers (within 1 year - the service signed up more users
>> than
>> Kenya 's entire banking industry signed up within a century!) Safaricom
>> reported that over half a Billion US dollar had been transacted over the
>> platform within less than 18 months.
>>
>> Key policy lesson? The financial services and communications regulator in
>> Kenya decided not to subject m-pesa to punitive obligations through
>> treatment as a bank but rather chose to perceive m-pesa a non-bank payment
>> service. That decision has today affected and continues to affect millions
>> of lives. Regulators can either promote innovation, access & development
>> or
>> hinder it.
>>
>> In East Africa communications regulators have completely opened up the
>> communications sector; fully liberalizing every area, but providing
>> structure through unified licensing regime that separates facilities,
>> services and content In Kenya this has spurred investments of over half a
>> Billion USD over the past 2 years.
>>
>> Key stakeholder lesson: relevant content drives demand - Safaricom's
>> m-pesa
>> met a basic and everyday need, this has driven the increased use of their
>> mobile platform by touching the lives & livelihoods of both urban & rural
>> citizens.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian Munyao Longwe
>> e-mail:
blongwe@gmail.com
>> cell: + 254 722 518 744
>> blog :
http://zinjlog.blogspot.com
>> meta-blog:
http://mashilingi.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
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