Re: [kictanet] It is More:To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger

16 Mar 2016

      Good Morning Listers, Great to see that the passion on this subject has certainly sparked a vibrant engagement including the CS himself. It is important to clarify that; this subject matter was specifically informed by this news bulletin. PLEASE NOTE THE AUDIO CLIP OF THE CS attached.
News Anchor Script: "Thegovernment is coming up with laws to track down bloggers who don't use theirofficial names in their blogs. ICT CS Joe Mucheru claims that those who usepseudonyms harass people and engage in illegal activities... (CUE AUDIO)

Source: Radio Africa Group

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    On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:55 AM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

 Happy Ladies Day!

If the below statement is accurate to have been from the CS, then this is not about bloggers or pseudonym.

" We want to strengthen cyber security so that we have a safe and secure growing digital economy for every Kenyan"

Thank you Barrack - animal farm I understand very well. The ring fence must be made accessible when the people inside start throwing stones at each other and to outsiders.

I still ask, who/what entity OWNS the Internet (and don't tell me all of us - I know we are users). Just as we are users of the financial services, there is owners who control the sector. 
All this online tools and apps on the internet ride on their "road" and they must leave tracks. Thus it means in the event of a breach then the OWNER would be the right person to consult. Instead of running around after the enterprises that create the "cars" riding on it.

Why do I say this? As digital life takes centre stage into nearly every sphere of human life, Governments who are designed as controllers, policy, keeping law and order etc will reach a point to deny entry into their nations. Because the Governments have no control and the OWNER is not responsive to their expectations. 

Otherwise again redefine the role of the Government where the internet is concerned. In reality, who bend for the other?

Blessed day.

Regards/Wangari

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Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".

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On Tue, 15/3/16, Joseph Mucheru via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kictanet] To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger
 To: wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk
 Cc: "Joseph Mucheru" <joe@mucheru.com>
 Date: Tuesday, 15 March, 2016, 20:16

 This is
 still not an accurate representation of what was said...but
 close

 On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at
 7:25 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 wrote:
 Barack,
 from your analogy, are you calling for prosecution of
 those

 who don't follow the alleged CS directive?

 Back to the CS, We may need to get a clarification from him.
 He may

 actually have been misquoted. Remember this case where
 Google was

 enjoined in a case to provide the identity of a blogger?
 From the

 proceedings, Google adamantly refused to do so.

 http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Waiguru-sues-Google--Kenyan-website-for-d...

 Anne Waiguru v Google Inc & 2 others [2014] eKLR:

 http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/104246/

 Regards

 On 15/03/2016, Barrack Otieno via kictanet

 <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 wrote:
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Hehe Wangari,
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I apologize for using complicated terms (POTUS effect)
 , indeed as you
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say, the Internet is a jungle. The best way to regulate
 a jungle is
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through policy and technology as seen in modern day
 conservancies.
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I will attempt to use animal farm analogy ;-)
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The other way is to have a fence around the jungle (use
 of
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technology). You can electrify it to make trespassers
 feel good when
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they touch it, that way they pay attention to the
 fence. Normally when
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an elephant touches electric fence it is possible to
 pinpoint where
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that happened, hence technology becomes both a
 detterent based on the
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feeling the animal gets when it touches the fence and a
 guide on the
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bounderies of the jungle as well as a source of
 information to the
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wardens on possible scenes of crime.
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I hope this makes sense
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On 3/15/16, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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wrote:
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Greetings Barrack,
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Can the internet justify its being "driven by
 trust"?
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Let us take banking which in the last week has
 tried to convince Kenyans
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not
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to run react, that all banks are not falling in
 Kenya or pulling out of
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Kenya through the Kenya Bankers Association
 adverts.
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This is a coordinated effort by the players to have
 a system that builds
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relative trust (note the word relative). Secondly
 banks operate in a
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similar
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way - central clearing house which gives the
 government a point to
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reference
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with on that is happening in the industry even if
 there may still be slip
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ups and covert activities such as money
 laundering
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The internet appears to the rule of the jungle.
 Even more the Government
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itself seems to have no point to have
 "real" control or coordination.The
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creators seem to have this control.
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Perhaps this should've been done when the
 internet was invented.
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Again this also takes us to the question, who owns
 the internet? Because
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they would have all the answers - from control,
 access, coordination
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which
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is a role that Governments play in most if not all
 sectors.Or is the
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Government to redefine its role where the internet
 is concerned?
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PS: Na Barrack ukitumia majina makubwa makubwa like
 Social Engineering -
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you
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explain.
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Blessed day.
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Regards/Wangari
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Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of
 the Light, We are Restored
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Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest
 The Kingdom of God on
...
...
Earth".
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On Tue, 15/3/16, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
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<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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wrote:
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  Subject: Re: [kictanet] To be or not to be a
 pseudonymous blogger
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  To: wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk
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  Cc: "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>,
 "Nanjira Sambuli"
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<nanjira@ihub.co.ke>
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  Date: Tuesday, 15 March, 2016, 13:49
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  Many thanks Ebele,
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  I agree with Nanjira's
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  postulation. Whereas Cabinet Secretary
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  Mucheru's view point may be justified to a
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  certain extent, it wouldn't
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  be prudent
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  since it will curtail the growth and developement
 of the
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  Internet which has partly been driven by
 trust.
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  My humble opinion is
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  that if we take care of
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  the Infrastructure issues such as natting, we
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  don't need to worry about Pseudonym's.
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  One way would be to encourage
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  adoption of IP
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  V 6 which avails an Internet Protocol address for
 every
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  device which would in turn make it easy to
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  trace sources of
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  information. The government
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  could also adopt an approach of educate
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  users through Social Engineering. This is my
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  opinion but i stand to be
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  corrected.
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  Best Regards
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  On 3/15/16, Ebele Okobi via
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  kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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  > Just a clarification-
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  > Facebook absolutely agrees that there
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  should be spaces on the Internet where
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  people can share anonymously, including some of
 our own
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  properties, like
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  > Instagram. That said,
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  Facebook itself is a space where community and
 trust
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  with people they know, so Facebook
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  community standards require people to use names
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  > We do not
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  proactively moderate for this, but fake accounts
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  > Ebele Okobi | Head of
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  Public Policy, Africa
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  > m. +44 (0) 771
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 1315<tel:+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315>
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  > 10 Brock Street |
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  > On Mar 15, 2016, at
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  9:27 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet
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  <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
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  contravention of article 31 (d) of the
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  Constitution.
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  Given that blogging in Kenya is taken to mean
 anyone with a
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  opinions, I think it's a slippery slope.
 Facebook
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  believe so did Google, and that
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  didn't bode well.
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  > While I see why the government would want
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  to take that approach (and could
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  > be
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  argued with s 33(2)..), it is worrisome. And
 "clamping
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  > militant choice of
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  > Regards,
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  > Nanjira.
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  > Sent from my
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  iPhone.
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  > On 15 Mar
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  2016, at 02:33,
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  > To be or not to be a pseudonymous
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Re: [kictanet] It is More:To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger

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