It is not possible to excuse the 40 who did not show up after confirming attendance. However, with only two days notice to adjust our schedules it was likely that a great number of those who would have wanted to be there to observe would be left with no choice but to follow proceedings via the kind updates of those who did make it. The questions may have been late but as a community I see nothing wrong with finding ways of accommodating remote participants even though KENIC made no such arrangements.
+1 Robert. Its actually immoral because at the end of it, it's the organisation's money that get lost.On 24 August 2012 15:02, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,To reiterate what Brian as said, KENIC catered or 70 participants who had indicated that they shall attend only for 30 people to show up.Please, when you are sure you have no intention of attending do not register as you cause the organisers to lose money. It is time we realised that sending a confirmation is not the same as clicking "like" on facebook or on an advert.RegardsRobert Yawe
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- You can't send email questions at 12.45 for an AGM that started at 8am :(
- Why did you not come in person to have these and other concerns you have raised addressed?
- A frequent comment that came out at the AGM was that the very low turnout out is indicative of Kenyan's propensity to "shadow box" and shy away from meaningful engagement.
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On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Kenic AGM Questions.For the "observers", I wish you can ask these questions:1. Is there conflict of interest if the "change manager" / CEO of KENIC is a player in the domain registrar business?2. As a regulator licensing authority, what is the role of CCK in the Kenic board?NB: Independence is a prerequisite for any telecommunications regulator in this case CCK. Regulator independence involves: the separation of the regulator from the operators that it regulates; lack of political influence on the regulator; and an open and transparent regulatory decision making process.On 24 August 2012 11:24, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:KivuvaOn Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Walu, I thoutht your second point is in the articles of association?
2) that perhaps KENIC Board members should serve not more than two terms (max 6yrs)
It is. Unless it was changed recently.Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.comOn 24 August 2012 10:14, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com
@Ndemo just made some remarks...
1) that perhaps KENIC finds a way to include ALL stakeholders (i.e. anyone with a .KE string).
2) that perhaps KENIC Board members should serve not more than two terms (max 6yrs)
walu.
--- On Fri, 8/24/12, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Talks to resolve row at KENIC
To: jwalu@yahoo.com
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Date: Friday, August 24, 2012, 9:31 AM
I am at the kenic meeting where I thought we would be well represented but as expected there are more kenic board members than kictanet representatives.
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On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 23:10 BST Grace Githaiga wrote:
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>Talks to resolve row at Internet firm
>http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Talks+to+resolve+row+at+Internet+firm/-/1006/1485812/-/oonana/-/index.html
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>The multi-stakeholder institution charged with administering Kenya’s Internet domain .ke, is hoping to iron out differences over its recent restructuring in its annual general meeting on Friday.The meeting, which will be held in Nairobi, brings together registrars, government representatives, Internet businesses and other people interested in the ICT sector.Speaking on Thursday, the organisation’s change manager, Mr Sammy Buruchara, said the forum would provide a good platform for the board of the institution to iron out issues facing the company.“It will give the board of the Kenya Network Information Centre (KeNIC) an opportunity to clear the air over all the allegations arising from the ongoing organisational restructure and create rapport on the way forward,” Mr Buruchara said.The AGM comes at a time when the institution is facing questions from the public over its decision to fire all its employees in what it says is an organisational
restructure.A number of board members have also left KeNIC in the past two months.In an email, Information and Communications Permanent Secretary Bitange Ndemo termed the decision to terminate employees’ contracts without consulting stakeholders as drastic and unprocedural.“Even in the Government, firing employees has several steps that must be followed to ensure security of tenure. This came as a surprise, yet we are supposed to be stakeholders. We must all respect the spirit of the Constitution, especially in such a multi-stakeholder agency,” Dr Ndemo said.In reaction, Mr Buruchara, who is on a three-month contract to oversee the execution of an institutional assessment report prepared by ZappKaas Consulting and Training Ltd, said KeNIC is an organisation with a working board and people should stop questioning its decision.Currently, KeNIC is the administrator of over 20,000 domains at the .ke registry.
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