David, I thought this UK law would make our section 88 look like an evening game of soccer. From the Independent. 23 November 2003 Sweeping measures to deal with terrorist attacks and other emergencies are to be announced this week, giving the Government power to over-ride civil liberties in times of crisis, and evacuate threatened areas, restrict people's movements and confiscate property. The Civil Contingencies Bill, which covers every kind of disaster from terrorism to the weather, will be the biggest shake-up of emergency laws since the early part of the last century, replacing legislation which saw the UK through a world war and the IRA bombing campaign. Some of the proposals in the draft version of the Bill, drawn up in the summer, have alarmed civil rights activists, notably a clause that gives the Government the power to suspend parts or all of the Human Rights Act without a vote by MPs. Once an emergency has been proclaimed by the Queen, the Government can order the destruction of property, order people to evacuate an area or ban them from travelling, and "prohibit assemblies of specified kinds" and "other specified activities". If these rules had been in force during the Iraq war, critics say, they could have been used to to ban street demonstrations, making anyone who travelled to protest guilty of a criminal offence. After a major terrorist attack, forums made up of local councils, the emergency services and utility companies would be put in charge of trying to get shattered communities back together. Ndemo.
Ok. Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:12:04 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: <bitange@jambo.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications(amendment)Bill: Is media overacting?
David, There was a hitch. It will be in all papers tomorrow and will ensure you get the soft copy.
Ndemo.
I have treid to find the amended bill online with no success; was it uploaded as promised? someone please? david
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From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications(amendment)Bill: Is media overacting? To: dmakali@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 1:04 AM Mike, Thank you for your objective views. You know very well that there are thousands of youth out there who have patiently waited for this bill to allow them trade on-line. Now Media calls theirs.
The outcomes of the Kriegler and Waki would hopefully deal with political impunity. Who will deal with media impunity? In my view we must push this Bill to ensure that electronic media does not continue to corrupt our children's minds.
Ndemo.
Dr. Ndemo,
I hope that the media note that they are on the wrong path and move to change their approach. In hindsight they might realize that the issues at hand could have been tackled differently.The media's most recent actions only make it more difficult to resolve the very same issues they are protesting.
The Nation's editorial perhaps represents the divergence in views between the media owners, their supporters and responsible journalists who may have seen that things are steering in a dangerous direction. As the matter drags on, various elements will try to take advantage and jump onto the bandwagon to further certain agendas. It is this catalyst that is worrisome, as there is the possibility that just as the media issue has somehow been tied to economic issues, the media issue could easily be misused by those who have little to do with the media.
The country has many volatile problems that should not be exploited, some of those jumping onto the media bandwagon may be seeking to detract from matters facing them, others have personal agendas in mind that can only progress if they are disguised as media and economic issues. The media hopefully is looking at these issues in a responsible manner, will exercise diplomacy and engage the Government in a civil way as the best way to resolve the impasse. There are many Kenyans suffering today from matters not within their control, it is a dangerous thing for the media to act in a way that could easily stir these masses to non-civil action as measures are being taken to alleviate these problems. The media has a corporate responsibility in ensuring that it exhausts all civil means of ensuring the matters are resolved.
It is encouraging to know that the Government is open for discussion, but there is only so much that the Government can do on legislative matters. The Government can draft, prepare and adjust laws but it cannot pass the same in parliament. The media must do more on its own in approaching not just key leaders but ultimately the legislators who actually vote to pass the same laws.
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 5:11 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Thanks Theuri, Since Government is open for discussion, diplomacy would yield better results. I have seen their action plan which by the way violates cck licence agreement it is not the best rout to take. Having spent all weekend using public resources (frequencies) to propagate violence, they should at least wait to hear from cck.
If you read today's Nation editorial on how to end impunity including media impunity you wonder if they are the same people inciting the public to violence.
Ndemo Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
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