@ali

I'm glad you called us out on it - it's true that there is no cloud provider anywhere in Africa with a global calibre QoS - Kili included.  It's a big problem for Africa as it puts all product-focused companies and government agencies at a distinct disadvantage to the rest of the world where they have this technology available locally.

I'm a big fan of AWS and used to spend $20k+/month on their product.  Nonetheless, using Kili (or another local cloud) as a complementary solution to something like Amazon or Rackspace should be pretty straightforward for most tech groups in Kenya.  Then you get the best of both worlds - high performance for your end users (Kili for your static assets and last mile application code) and support that you can only get from a billion dollar company (AWS for your core data).

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On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam

You know that I'm an avid advocate of hosting all our content locally (and it's not just because of security issues) :) because of the obvious advantages of speeds, cost reductions in connectivity for end users etc. 

I'm however not convinced that the industry is there yet. The thing about the NET is that we can't claim to say because its an African product we can accept mediocre standards. Sorry to be harsh about this but the day I can get the same QoS as I'm used to with Rackspace, Google Cloud, Amazon Web Services etc is the day I will move all my hosting business locally. I give you my word on it and I'm willing to be challenged on this.

Lets put our money where our mouths are and develop World Class Services. 

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On Aug 26, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Yes, and the latency is very important for application performance.  Don't forget, it's not just smartphones on 4g, it's desktops, Internet of Things, etc.

With that said, most applications used by Kenyans (even The Nation) are hosted in Europe.  The latency of 3G is lower than the latency between Nairobi and London over cable.  So more benefits can come from simply moving applications local than from deploying 4g - but they both need to happen.

-Adam

On Monday, August 25, 2014, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Dennis,

I am very tempted to Google this, but will go old-skool on this one.

I know you could have a low speed - low latency network, but can you have a high speed - high latency network?

Waithaka Ngigi

Alliance Technologies
Nairobi, Kenya

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On 25 Aug 2014 18:41, "Dennis Kioko via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

But 4G is not only about higher speeds, but lower latencies too. Therefore applications that require low latency might find 4G to be of benefit on that front.

On 25 Aug 2014 16:56, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It would be most welcome if having 4G will lower data prices. Then again, I doubt the number of users who require 4G is that significant.


On 25 August 2014 16:52, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I am an advocate for tech all the way but would first ask why all the fuss with 4G? Have we maxed out the 3G bandwidth and have we put in place enough fiber to the building already in existence? 

This rush for the newest and the greatest tech is not after solving problems but earning the likes of Huawei money with little value. 

I understand that Safaricom faced similar questions when launching 3G and are currently the only one testing 4G and so I may eat my words soon enough. I still think we should be laying more fiber to homes and offices rather than fight for spectrum. 


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Adam,

Kenyans are known for their 11th-hour (in)decisions/actions. You better start thinking & behaving like one:)
CAK is doing the right thing, but bedevilled by political forces in the bg.


On 25 August 2014 15:36, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It seems that CAK is trying to do the right thing but I can't tell if they have weak lawyers or if the court is just confused or if the rights-holders of the analog spectrum really are being violated.

But while we wait, other countries in the region are moving forward.  The big problem is that LTE deployment (and digital-only terrestrial TV) takes time and the longer we wait for the start, the further away we are from getting meaningful value out of the transition moving ahead.

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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 8/25/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I figured somebody on this list would have the  latest update.
~~~~
True that Adam.

Only problem is that the Gava /Regulator folks have gone awfully quiet in recent times..even our ever-ready Wambua of the CCK fame has not said anything since they became CAK :-)

Or perhaps since since we have sued them left, right and center, they are unable to comment on matters before the Bench (it can always be used against you).

walu.
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On Mon, 8/25/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

 Subject: [kictanet] LTE in Rwanda, TZ, UG
 To: jwalu@yahoo.com
 Date: Monday, August 25, 2014, 10:59 AM

 Looks like Rwanda is
 about to launch LTE:
 http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15825&a=79508

 Any updates on Kenya?  Aside from Burundi, Kenya
 looks set to be the last to launch the service in the East
 African Community.
 The last I heard, the Supreme Court blocked the
 disabling of the analog signals which need to be shut down
 in order to free up spectrum.  In addition, KDF has alot of
 spectrum that they've been holding onto as well.

 I figured somebody on this list would have the
 latest update.
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