Harry, Touching on, " this forum has quite a lot of ideas and brilliant recommendations that come up and "go up in smoke"; I think we agreed during the Malili Technopolis talk (was someone doing a write up? Liko?) was for moderated discussion of key issues followed by a 'town-hall' meeting where key stakeholders are invited to present/chart/agree way forward. The meetings would be a great chance to influence direction of the industry. I believe Alice/Walu/Brian were to compile a schedule. The 3G debate should definitely be on there. Victor ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+v-gathara=dfid.gov.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+v-gathara=dfid.gov.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: 28 January 2010 19:30 To: Victor Gathara Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] JKIA-Lack of wireless internet & Are the Mainplayers in the Industry getting the Message loud and clear? This is really brilliant, Wesley...! Again, it narrows down to who would take charge to get all this vested interests together to a round table so that a bigger, and clearer picture that can be seen clearly,can emerge - For instance, that indirect benefits can accrue especially on the marketing front & on publicity. Then, after the interested parties have been 'sat' down, and shown the way around, and they can realize that - in the long run they stand to benefit, not necessarily in form of returns in 'hard cash', then they will speedily move into action to implement what needs to be implemented especially since we have the resources to do just that. On the flip-side of the coin, it also means that there is a more bigger picture as well - that the country at large stands to benefit in the longer run. And such thinking is called "pragmatism". Then, when we have such kind of thinking replicated in all other sectors of our beloved country, then we will be right on track headed for tremendous progress and growth. When we will emerge from this colonization of the mind, which is - "What is in it for me?" - either individually, or corporately in everything we lay our hands on - then we will truly be on way to revolutionizing the country. What is becoming tiresome now, is that this forum has quite a lot of ideas and brilliant recommendations that come up and "go up in smoke", as a saying from some remote village goes.. It is time ,the voices here get to be heard loud and clear where it matters, so that we just do not talk but we also make sure that those concerned get to listen, and pay attention, change course and be held to account.. I believe that in the last 1-2 weeks alone, some very important issues that do not only concern this forum, but the sector and the country at large have been highlighted here, which needs urgent attention. Some of these issues are brazenly holding back the very gains some valiant people have worked hard to realize in this industry. At worst, they tend to hold the country - especially the consumer at ransom. Now, I think the forum can do with some answers from the concerned parties..? Is it possible for the secretariat to please collate the most urgent highlights, and direct to the main players, from whom we seek answers. Harry ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of wesley kirinya Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 5:26 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] JKIA-Lack of wireless internet Thanks Waudo! But why at a fee? KDN has 1Mb for $600. May be KDN can give them a deal for more bandwidth. 5Mb would be about $3000 per month, $36,000 a year. I hope KAA is not looking at making a business out of this-Hahahaha. If installation costs and on-going costs are too high for KAA, let the Kenya Tourism Board, Airlines and other sectors that can benefit chip in. I don't even see the reason why they should because KAA will ultimately gain when more tourists and foreign businesses are set up in Kenya because of their experience with the free Kenyan broadband. Most people flying around can definately afford the internet but there is a bigger picture here. It's not about making some profit. It's about showing how confident Kenya is in it's telecommunication infrastructure. For any profit to be made or even to break even they would charge the tourists more than they would pay in Asia, Europe and US. But imagine the punch they get when it's good quality internet and free! Then you have a couple of posters saying, "Freely connect to our fast BroadBand!" And all tourists and people on transit will definately want to give it a try. And some Kenyan content can be put in the default page that opens up. May be some nice places to visit in Kenya, do shopping, ... While they are at it why dont they put flat screens showing Kenya's wildlife and tourism sites. If Nakumatt, Uchumi and Tuskys have them at their tills, why not JKIA. Kenya Tourism Board spent millions with their advert campaign in CNN. If they work together with KAA to provide this free internet for a fraction of their marketing costs they would be effectively targeting people who are more likely to visit Kenya or people who are more likely to know people who can visit Kenya. 8~! --- On Thu, 1/28/10, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote: From: waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] JKIA-Lack of wireless internet To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 3:54 PM Antony Wachira, head of ICT at KAA tells me that they are at procurement stage. The service will be concessioned and will be available at JKIA and Moi Airport at a fee to users. Waudo On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:59 +0300, "Joseph Mucheru" <mucheru@google.com> wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:10 PM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote: Robert, Wesley - I am attending a conference in Mombasa with the head of ICT at KAA - so I will mention this to him tomorrow and hear what he says. I agree its a problem. There should be pervasive airside and landside wireless, preferably free like in Singapore and Dubai airports. And Rwanda! Waudo On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:10 +0000, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Wesley, They are called ISPs, you can take the donkey to the river but you cannot make it drink. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Tue, 26/1/10, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote: From: wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> Subject: [ke-internetusers] JKIA-Lack of wireless internet To: "ke-users" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net> Date: Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 15:46 *Sigh* I lack words on how to start this. I don't have to explain it. Can something be done ASAP so that JKIA can have free, fast WiFi Internet accessible everywhere (even from the toilets). Now, how can Kenya boast of broadband when the gateway to Africa (JKIA) has nothing to show of it. Imagine the very many passengers who use KQ (and other airlines) from all around Africa who pass by our airport: Company Directors, CEOs, CTOs, CFOs, ... Basically people who Kenya is trying to reach in order to attract investments in various sectors including IT. These are the same people going to invest in the rest of Africa. It's beyond my thinking why JKIA has never tapped into this even before the fibres came. It's been a couple of months since I was there. Perhaps someone who was there more recently can give us an update on the current situation. 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