Dennis, I am reasonably certain that as much as there are several other reasons why this is happening, the biggest contributor is our "attitude" as a people. I have heard countless times from senior managers in local companies and government alike saying that "hii ni Kenya, sio US/UK".with such a predisposition, it is small wonder that you see such exodus and horrid service delivery. Foreign managers/investors would fall in line if they see initiative from the locals - which is rare. Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Dennis Kioko Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:57 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Failure of Kenyan Management? "I stepped down from East Africa Venture Capitals to head Wananchi since our $ 170M investment in Wananchi wasn't going well" - Richard Bell at Pivot 25 "Chief executive officer of KDN, Rikus Matthyser, said the company's new owners, South African technology firm Altech, employed a number of expatriates to "mentor" the local managers for a period of between nine months and two years which triggered a wave of resignations by the senior managers." - Business Daily on Senior managers quit as expats take over at KDN <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Senior+managers+quit+as+e xpats+take+over+at+KDN/-/539550/1183716/-/j246vn/-/> The ISP industry exhibits lots of quality issues with almost everyone agreeing there is no dependable ISP. Most ISPs will point back to their carriers , I was told one carrier had their Kisumu link down for 3 days because the ISP affected was 'not Safaricom'. What ails us? Isn't a nation of 40 million capable of producing a few individuals who can successfully run an ISP? Or is its that Kenyan management have their hands tied by foreign management and investors? -- with Regards: blog.denniskioko.com