I agree, we need to discuss net neutrality in the context of Africa. However, this is how I interprate Net Neutrality in the African Context:

I think we all agree that yes, it does give unfair advantage to specific players, but then what if there is a genuine need? What if we need people to talk about critical situations, what if God Forbid fire breaks out in a suburb and the people close by don't have a bundle active? Free Basics can in such situations even save lives. It can allow people to tweet and responders to respond.

I do not think people would deliberately block access to other sites because they get FB or Twitter for free. What happens if they need to follow up on a link that they want to read on? But it is needed where it can be of help.

So generally, lets not discount the need for access to platforms like Twitter or Facebook in cases where 999 can not be accessible. Infact, this is a good means by which emergency response services (Red Cross, etc) can set up hash tags and twitter accounts to allow respondents to send vital emergency information for quick response. For free. When there is an urgent need for it to be there. Because a 50 MB Bundle can not be used to tweet heavy photos out of an emergency scene for more than 5 minutes.

Ahmed



On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Good analogy Kivuva.

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On Feb 27, 2016 11:59 AM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:

Let us debate on the notion of "bread" 🍞 alone.

We all know lack of a balanced diet brings kwashiorkor. And it brings stunted growth too. Forget zika virus, normal children in Africa get smaller brains because of the stunted growth.

Take that analogy and compare it to the malnutritioned internet being paraded around. Out children too will develop intellectual Kwashiorkor

On Feb 27, 2016 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Ebele

It has to do with the issue of Third Party Liability.

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On Feb 27, 2016 10:01 AM, "Ebele Okobi" <ebeleokobi@fb.com> wrote:
I'm curious-what does the KFCB demand that Google censor content have to do with net neutrality?

Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa

On Feb 27, 2016, at 5:32 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Nanjira

The CS is definitely entitled to his opinion. Like all of us. My concern is of course that his opinion can be construed to be Government Policy. And Net Neutrality cannot be distilled in such a simplistic way. 

I think it's high time this country and the rest of Africa have a deep conversation about what Net Neutrality means for us.

Take for example the issue of KFCB the other day when the CEO  announced that they have asked Google to take down the 'offending' video of same sex marriage/love endorsement. 

I was astounded that the whole discussion degenerated to the issue of homosexuality!! 

My questions and concerns were quite clear and they alluded to our total lack of policy regarding Net Neutrality. And address in an ICT Forum.

KFCB used the right tools to ask for the video take down. The same tools have been used by other governments. 

With all due respect to the CS but I think he needs to be careful not to simplify this important matter. Let's discuss it fully and come up with our own Net Neutrality version. This definitely doesn't include abdicating our responsibilities as a country to global internet companies. This will be a recipe for disaster.

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On 27 Feb 2016, at 8:08 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is at least the second piece citing the CS' point of view.
It might be in order to write a letter to him explaining why it is not a first world problem.


Regards,
Nanjira.

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On 27 Feb 2016, at 07:44, kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote:

Net neutrality 'first world' problem? (Ali Hussein)

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