This sounds great Wamuyu. Wish we could replicate it here. I am also asking the Chair of the Business Constituency to come back during the EA-IGF and make presentations to the Business community why they should engage. Maybe the time of the EA-IGF would be appropraie to also have some ICANN staff around on the outreach program. Please talk to these guys at Carnivore or wherever you are to make these ideas a reality. Tonight I will miss the free dinner as I am on another engagement in Mombasa.

Waudo

On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:45 -0800, "Wamuyu Gatheru" <wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Another bit of info I picked up - The German rep of the GAC discussed an effort in his country to organise all local actors interested in the ICANN agenda. ICANN sent staff to Germany to make presentations and help Germany optimise on its engagement. Rod, the ICANN CEO, recognised this as a commendable initiative.

regards, Wamuyu

From: McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com>
To: wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Wed, 10 March, 2010 16:12:29
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nothing like free dinner

Walu,

You may be correct about this, but what Wamuyu et. al. need to understand is that MOST people don't actually speak in person, many of us are happy to participate on the mailing lists.

For example, in the ISP Constituency, Tej, Robert Yawe and I and another Kenyan and about 10 other people let 4 people do all the talking. This is a completely "captured" constituency BTW. If Kenyans wanted to take it over completely, it would just take organization, interest and money. It's captured by these 3 ppl, because they are the only ones who regularly participate, run for the GNSO seat from the ISP constituency, etc.

I've never heard of a country organising to the extent you advocate. I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but i am saying it shouldn't be done. Most of us represent ourselves, some represent our employers, some represent their nation.

We shouldn't all represent our nation as that would pervert the intent of the process.

I personally saw Alex take a very assertive role in the NCSG, including a discussion with the Board, Alice continues to represent, altho you must realise that the Board has a very grave duty in ensuring the safety of participants.

Both Ayesha Hassan and Marilyn Cade from the Biz Con commented to me how much they keen to have waudo and Evelyn continue to contribute going forward (altho I wasn't at that meeting).

Michuki has been instrumental in revitalizing AfTLD, (amongst many other accomplishments). Vincent is on of the leaders in the African IP addressing community, which is an ICANN process after all.

Before we invented the term Internet Governance, there was a Kenyan on the ICANN Board.

Glass half full is (at least) is my POV. Speaking of free dinners, I'll see you at the Carnivore!

--
Cheers,

McTim
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