On 26 Jul 2008, at 17:48, Joseph Manthi wrote:

Waudo
Great theoretical discourse on meritocracy but I must stand up for reason. Democracy is a bad system of government that awards winners with take all attitudes and ability to run governments the way they wish but it is the best we have today. And it is better than any other form of government.

That reminds me of Fidel Catro's democracy where though he is the sitting revolutionary leader he subjects most significant state policies to a referendum and if they people vote against it, he does not have his way. In more ways than not Cuba has a social regime that is working, take health, education, agriculture. That country has being a leading comrade of Africa so may be it is time to learn some of their good elements. May be the "African democracy" should be a combination of votting for the political office and also votting on the policies they pursue and how they pursue it. Am a firm believe in an evolution of democracy that would suit our context.

The sooner we, as Kenyans, realize that every single senior position from Ministers to PS to all senior parastatals serve under the pleasure of the president despite merit and therefore their positions are political the sooner we can get on with the job at hand. Taking the right of the president to appoint whomever they want despite merit and politics is a pretty bad thing.

In most working democracies of today, what really happens is there is a check and balance for the powers of the political leadership in some ways by the opposition and in others by state institutions. We weaken our democratic tenats when we allow the political system to super impose on the state structures and create a neutralising effect of the institutions to provide balance. in some cases it is soo bad that we fail to create those institutions or make them work.

I have advocated that "regulatory institutions" weather in ICT, finance, environment etc should be subjected to direct parliamentary oversight rather than Ministerial and or Presidential oversight with clearly laid out processes and rules of engagement. This is an ideal we must work towards, a huge undertaking that in some cases requires change in the country's constitution.

Lets get on with the job at hand.

Most definatley...

Joe
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 8:31 AM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote:
Public Sector appointments MUST be on MERIT. Period. Accepting other avenues such as "Political Appointment" is a sad commentary on our state of affairs given that this list is for the enlightened and intellectuals. If indeed such appointments exist they must be condemned. Those saying that appointments exist that are best described as "Political" rather than "Meritorious" should indicate whether or not they believe in or are resigned to such appointments. This is an advocacy list, right? Advocacy is about reaching for an ideal and not accepting what you do not believe in. It goes beyond just observing what is going on. Does it make sense to be trying to "digitize" our society if in the background that society is not a Meritocracy?
In Kenya, political affiliation is generally tribal-based. This axiomatically elevates the term "Political Appointment" to the realm of euphemism...... And this further creates the social instability we are aware of during election time, as this is the time for each community to position itself, through utra-Machiavellian means where necessary, to "eat" through "political appointments". Not committing ourselves to merit can only leave us with a "Mediocracy" compounded by brain-drain (as our top brains get disillutioned) and, at worst, social instability/war. Let us build Kenya by promoting those ideas that build us and not resigning ourselves to compromises. Ordinary Kenyans are watching to see how we, the enligtened, are thinking so that they can follow our example.
Waudo
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:57:27 -0400, "Joseph Manthi" <jmanthi@gmail.com> said:
WO:

"When we blindly adopt any religion, political system, or literary
dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow."
-- Anais Nin

Ditto

Joe

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:55 AM, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think I have to support Manthi on this one. We cannot wish away Political influence on such an important and strategic appointment - infact it could be suicidal to do so.
>
> I havent talked to Shem or the other un-succesfull contenders (pretenders?) for the post but I am 100% sure that they must have tried to get their political godfathers to say a good word for them too. If they didn't have any political godfathers, then they should have prudently declined to apply for the job (like me ;-)
>
> So guys, stop talking criteria only when things do not go your way. Instead lets congratulate the new DG because economist, engineer, lawyer, informatician or whatever - he did go to school and has the experience to deal with the office. Our role may be more useful in demanding deliverables from him rather splitting hair on why he was appointed and we were left out.
>
> walu.

Hi Walu,

I agree in part with you, about the demand for deliverables from him,
but I still stand against the mode of appointment, where I'll stand
with the other side of this debate.
I sign out of this thread with the following quote:

"When we blindly adopt any religion, political system, or literary
dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow."
-- Anais Nin

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