Flag and KDN are fully open and the capacity purchasers can adopt ANY structure they want! SPV, Consortium, Private, Government .... I would even suppose we start a commodity trading section at NSE dealing with submarine capacity! Rgds Kai ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walubengo" <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Day 3 of 10: What are the existing Business Modelsfor OFC provision?
Thanx Eric, three models are more than enough headache for now...
On another thought, am thinking EASsy wants to go the 'Consortium' way, Flag by KDN would go the 'Private' way...but does any one know which model TEAMs is adopting? Private, Consortium or OpenAccess?
Check out the story...http://allafrica.com/stories/200701230830.html
walu. --- Eric Osiakwan <eric@afrispa.org> wrote:
I dont understand what you mean by c) Open Access Model (Proposed by Academia/Civil Societies), not that i have any problem with who proposed it but i think the premise is what does it mean as a model?
Open Access primarily underscores the need to consider other elements other than private interest so Open Access is actually the multistakeholder model that tries to unify or bring under one umbrella the various interest. Be it private, public, academia, CS etc.
NB: There is also a Hybrid model but sorry am not in a position to dig on it right now
On 25 Jan 2007, at 10:44, John Walubengo wrote:
O.K....
Even though Badru has jumped ahead into Day 5 theme (i.e Best Model) I wish to confirm if we are agreed that there seems to be only the three models for Providing OFC, namely, a) Purely Private Sector (Practiced in Developed Economies) b) Consortium Model (Practiced in SAT3 example) c) Open Access Model (Proposed by Academia/Civil Societies)
could there be a 4th model out there? Maybe there is a middle ground model where all stakeholders are happy. Plse voice your opinion today before tomorrow - where we shall start a new Theme on 'appropriate Regulatory models for managing OFC'.
walu. Themes Reminder 1) Why OFC (1day) 2) Existing Business Models for OFC (2days) 3) Existing/Appropriate Regulatory Models for OFC (2days) 4) Best Model (Business+Regulatory) for E. Africans (2days) 5) Projected Impact on Stakeholders (2days) 6) Reconciling Stakeholder interests/Conclusions (2days)
--- John Walubengo <jwalubengo@kcct.ac.ke> wrote:
Some interesting insights from Badru and Njorohio...
walu.
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:16:22 +0300 From: Badru Ntege <ntegeb@one2net.co.ug> To: APC - Private list for use by EASSY Workshop Participants <fibre-for-africa@lists.apc.org> CC: African Information Society Initiative - Discussion Forum <aisi-l@lyris.bellanet.org>, DigAfrica@yahoogroups.com, John Walubengo <jwalubengo@kcct.ac.ke>, KIPlist <kiplist-cl@lyris.idrc.ca>, Africa ICT Policy Forum <africtic@dgroups.org> Subject: Re: [Fibre-for-africa] Join KICTAnet's online discuission: What is the best model for providing the Fiber Optic Submarine Cable to East Africans?
I think we all know "who shot EASSY". it was politics and egos which have never been good bed fellows. The guilty parties that pulled the trigger are kenya and South Africa though the jury is still out on this. Then along the way came some other characters who used the impasse to get some free publicity (we all know who they are ). when time to pay up came they all disappeared and guess who is suffering.
If government's and Nepad want to be in please consult the community, lay the law and rules of engagement and stay away. then next should be those who have the pockets to come in and build the fiber.
I mean at the end of the day business rules will kick in and eventually the price will come down. If government wants to intervene to bring costs down then give the businesses an incentive to offer good pricing, maybe tax waivers etc.
Lets forget the nice world in the clouds where everyone has access and buys at the same price etc. Some things need to be given time to develop naturaly.
Many things and services in all our walks of life are built by private entities some are closed clubs and others are open. that is a business decision.
Forget open access and all that baloony, all those consultants who were singing all this nice to the ears stuff are back sitting behind there 10mB links costing them a few dollars while we are sitting on our 16k 32k links moaning EASSY.
Bottom line allow the operators to build the cable Set operating criteria and acceptable pricing levels Government concentrates on facilitating internal networks to Rural communities Encourage the production of local content Put in measures that will create demand and thus market forces to bring the prices down.
my 2 cents
Hi All The EASSY cable implementation seems to be stalling due to disagreement on financing and the way to operate and manage it. The Eastern african countries will continue being overcharged for their international traffic when they pass through satellite due to lack of this cheap way of carrying traffic through
We are aware of the regional economic bodies that are mandated to promote trade between the countries and I suggest
also invest in ICT .COMESA and SADC are the bodies catering for trade in south and eastern Africa.Why can't they take the opportunity to invest in this cable so that it can benefit the countries they are serving. A company can be formed answerable to these two bodies for the installation , maintenance and operation of this cable. The western africa and central africa can do the same for the western cable link. The existing cables can continue to give redundancy for
gathuri njorohio wrote: the submarine cable. that they should the new cables.
The e commission of the NEPAD could facilitate these intiatives as a neutral body for the development of Africa. Eng. Njorohio */alice@apc.org/* wrote:
(Apologies for Cross positing)
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