Mburu, Very true. Amen to that. Have a spiritual weekend too. walu.
Walu, you forgot to add... and seek divine intervention for guidance in the past week and strength throughout the coming week.
On 06/06/2009, jwalubengo@mmu.ac.ke <jwalubengo@mmu.ac.ke> wrote:
Dear Lister,
Thanx for your continued contributions. I just wish to state that traditionally and like in all workshops/conferences, we usually use weekends to "refresh". This means that Listers can belatedly catch up and post on previous themes while others can chose to go visit the national parks...
So that means we shall continue the discussions next Monday 8th with HR/Capacity issues as our theme.
regards.
walu.
I second that as their comments would be very useful going forward as the findings and discussions need to feed into policy.
N
________________________________ From: "godera@skyweb.co.ke" <godera@skyweb.co.ke> To: elizaslider@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 8:51:23 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 4 of 10- BPO Discussions, Govt Subsidies
As a matter of interest, is there anyone in the Vision 2030 team or the NESC on this list? I would love to hear a comment from them on how they intend to work with us to wake up this industry.
Gilda Odera Quoting Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>:
Thanks Nyaki, i have copied the Statistics on a word document for onward digestion, i was just being loud to sell my point, i enjoy learning from our scholars MM, Waema, Dr Ndemo and many others on the list the discussion is great
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Catherine Adeya <elizaslider@yahoo.com>wrote:
Barrack,
The great thing about such a forum is there is no right or wrong answer as long as you are on topic...one need not be a scholar to make a worthwhile contribution. Even some of us...so called scholars sometimes fumble in our responses....I read some of what I wrote yesterday and saw a few errors but hey I wanted to ensure that I was contributing in a timely manner. The long and short of what I am trying to say is your contribution below is well understood and does not require further scholarly elaboration, others will just tease out issues from it and flesh it out if need be.
I hope this also helps the many listers out there in cyberspace who would like to say something but are feeling slightly overwhelmed by these 'scholars'. Enjoy chatting....KICTANET is your space............
Nyaki
------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* elizaslider@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2009 9:03:10 AM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Day 4 of 10- BPO Discussions, Govt Subsidies
Walu, and fellow Listers, i think the clause that requires local investors to on twenty percent might be counter productive for an emerging market such as Kenya at this point in time, i like d Dr Ndemo's suggestion of requiring the companies to list on the stock exchange so that locals can then own a chunk of it, remember Kenya is a "small market" to most multinationals no wonder large companies prefer dealing with clusters MEA and the likes. On another note Barclays Bank had a program where they were taking members of their business club to Hong Kong and the likes, fellow listers we should not underestimate the Value of EXPOSURE, Kenya has a well educated workforce but they just need to be tickled by exposure and you will be surprised at the outcome, could someone help me elaborate on this it may not be scholarly enough !
On 6/5/09, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
-Dear Listers,
I must thank all for your insights over the last few days. I like
challenge that asked whether we are "over-regulating" an emerging market as the "answer" to the question on if we have legal and regulatory gaps. Listers are encouraged to challenge and not just answer the questions. Other arising issues included where we want to play within the BPO Value Chain, the Impact of the Political (in-)stability, the need to map our Data Protection laws to those in the target markets are just but some of
highlights I picked - and by all means this is NOT exhaustive as am still reading through the contributions.
But today we need to open the theme on Government subsidies. The Researchers found the S.Africa and India had elaborate subsidy
for the sector that included Tax Holidays and Exemptions, Investment Grants to BPO operators, Training Subsidies, One-stop shop for Corporate Company Registrations that could be 100% foreign owned, etc. The Researchers noted the unique Mauritius case which had similar incentives but eventually abolished most of them arguing that they were more beneficial to
Operators than to the Nation.
On the Kenyan front - other than the not so succesfull Govt Bandwidth subsidies for Operators, very little in terms of incentives was available to BPO Operators. It was noted that the BPO operators had to be within
in order to enjoy the subsidies other EPZ corporates operates - the
the the provisions the the EPZ problem
being that most BPO operaters exist outside the EPZ area. Whats more, BPO operators had to pay additional charges to be registered by the CCK (Regulator) and should be at least 20% locally owned.
Qtn6: What incentives / subsidies should the government provide to BPO operators? What of the clause requiring 20% Local shareholding in foreign companies - is it prohibitive or helpful?
Floor is open comments.
walu. Encl: Synthesis 2:- Subsidies and Incentives
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