On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, when our own teachers are failing at spelling, one wonders... http://www.elimuportal.net/

(*still* zero response on fixing the typos)

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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:29:26 +0300 (EAT)
From: bitange@jambo.co.ke
To: "Kipkemoi arap Kirui" <arapkirui@gmail.com>

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Kipkemoi arap Kirui,
In system theory there is feedback and evaluation which informs subsequent
inputs. When the output does not meet the expectations, you either change
the quality of inputs or revise the processing system. We need some work
on our 8-4-4 system.

Ndemo.

> Andrea,
>
> I guess it is a more serious problem. That of poor foundation and
> commercialization of our undergraduate programs. Every backstreet building
> in most towns now houses some university or affiliate college or program.
> How can all these mushrooming universities and campuses access competent
> faculty to take our young people through this crucial stage of their
> lives? How can they access library and other resources? Can we really
> blame these Kenyans?
>
> I want to ask the Professors and Lecturers here and elsewhere to search
> their souls and ask themselves whether what is going on in Kenyan
> universities is sustainable. A large number of our graduating students
> cannot process simple tasks nor can they engage in intellectual
> discussions in their 'professional' areas. This week I saw a candidate to
> the IEBC with a PhD (due respect to her) who barely processed simple
> questions asked by the Ekuru Aukot Panel.
>
> Let us go back to our universities and 'campuses' and try to understand
> what really goes on there. Let us check whether in fact in some of these
> institutions any education is at all taking place.
>
> Kipkemoi arap Kirui
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:24, info@alyhussein.com wrote:
>
>> Andrea
>>
>> Blaming tools like the PC and mobile phones for bad grammar and spelling
>> is a bit like blaming the gun for killings - they will happen with or
>> without the gun.
>>
>> Attitudes, the willingness to learn and continuously improve ourselves
>> is what matters.
>>
>> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry??

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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:40:32 +0300
From: Kipkemoi arap Kirui <arapkirui@gmail.com>

To: bitange@jambo.co.ke
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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Omogambi Ndemo,

Yours is a call to action. Can we diagnose, evaluate and act?

arap Kirui

On 5 October 2011 14:29, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

> Kipkemoi arap Kirui,
> In system theory there is feedback and evaluation which informs subsequent
> inputs. When the output does not meet the expectations, you either change
> the quality of inputs or revise the processing system. We need some work
> on our 8-4-4 system.
>
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
> > Andrea,
> >
> > I guess it is a more serious problem. That of poor foundation and
> > commercialization of our undergraduate programs. Every backstreet
> building
> > in most towns now houses some university or affiliate college or program.
> > How can all these mushrooming universities and campuses access competent
> > faculty to take our young people through this crucial stage of their
> > lives? How can they access library and other resources? Can we really
> > blame these Kenyans?
> >
> > I want to ask the Professors and Lecturers here and elsewhere to search
> > their souls and ask themselves whether what is going on in Kenyan
> > universities is sustainable. A large number of our graduating students
> > cannot process simple tasks nor can they engage in intellectual
> > discussions in their 'professional' areas. This week I saw a candidate to
> > the IEBC with a PhD (due respect to her) who barely processed simple
> > questions asked by the Ekuru Aukot Panel.
> >
> > Let us go back to our universities and 'campuses' and try to understand
> > what really goes on there. Let us check whether in fact in some of these
> > institutions any education is at all taking place.
> >
> > Kipkemoi arap Kirui
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:24, info@alyhussein.com wrote:
> >
> >> Andrea
> >>
> >> Blaming tools like the PC and mobile phones for bad grammar and spelling
> >> is a bit like blaming the gun for killings - they will happen with or
> >> without the gun.
> >>
> >> Attitudes, the willingness to learn and continuously improve ourselves
> >> is what matters.
> >>
> >> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry?

> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com>
> >> Sender: kictanet-bounces+info=alyhussein.com@lists.kictanet.or.keDate:
> >> Tue, 4 Oct 2011 23:58:30
> >> To: <info@alyhussein.com>
> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:01:44 +0300
From: godera@skyweb.co.ke
To: James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com>

Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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Listers,

In my view this is but a reflection of how standards across the board have
fallen. There is simply no pride in a good job done- casualness is the order of
the day.'It can pass' - so it is said.
We need to get back to the thoroughness that once was- ACROSS THE BOARD.

Gilda

Quoting James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com>:

> I have also noted lots of typing errors on the scrolling text especially
> during 9.00 PM news on most of them.
>
> On 10/4/2011 11:11 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
> > All of today's newspapers had several grammatical errors. At this time and
> age of ICT, is it not too embarrasing to have such errors? We have
> thousands of English majors without jobs. It is time for media to be
> thorough in what they do by utilizing our many graduates without jobs. As a
> Kenyan I get embarrased to see such errors.
> >
> > Ndemo.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry?

> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Subject: [kictanet] GSMA: Calls will remain high between African countries
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