I agree Mwendwa.. This is tapping the aggregated vendors data at the SafariCom Paybill platform...and no consumer data aggregation is required.
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 20:40:35 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] KRA's radical plan to catch tax cheats From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: Kivuva@transworldafrica.com To: lnjogu@hotmail.com
1. Paybill platform already has a VAT module that can be activated at any time by Safaricom. The equivalent of Paybill is your organisation Point of Sale or better still ERP. 2. Small players don't need to worry as far as VAT is concerned. If your annual turnover is below five million Kenyan shillings, you are not required to register for VAT
On 10/05/2016, Tony White via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Don't forget - KRA already collects tax on m-pesa transactions - if Bob is listening here, perhaps he can tell us just how much this is!
There is also the question of how much time and effort is spent (at what cost to the taxpayer!) chasing after all the small 'Lipa na m-pesa' dukas.
There is a point where some taxes are not worth collecting - ie. costing more to administer and collect than the amount collected - case in point - road tax
Does KRA already have powers, without notice, to examine our bank transaction records? Neither should they get into mobile money transactions without a court order!
Cheers from a very wet Kwale County ;)
On 10/05/2016, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thinking exactly the same thing.. Ali.
It is extremely surprising to me that the privacy issue has not been mentioned at all in all this. Even in the article. As Kenyans we tend to not understand how crucial privacy is. Especially in the context of what is going to go on here.
This is the exact same issue that has put governments in the west at a great pain to explain their *secretive* involvement in yet here we are comfortably going *public* about it.
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a great initiative to expand the tax bracket. Im just curious how this will be achieved considering the slippery slope that will be encountered on Privacy issues.
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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Grace B, do we have a law that would facilitate this? Or is KRA being over enthusiastic? How much would they really net in guys transacting a few thousands?
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 14:09:05 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] KRA's radical plan to catch tax cheats From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: nmutungu@gmail.com To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Listers,
KRA is targeting mobile money as part of the agency’s financial data gathering scheme that is meant to monitor businesses and individuals who are not paying their fair share of taxes.
People familiar with the plan said the taxman is at an advanced stage of rolling out a number crunching mechanism that will use electronic data to suggest incomes of those using mobile money to pay bills and make purchases.
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