Mutoro, I believe the rule of the Masaai Moran is that he who inflicts the first stab gets to eat the heart but it does not imply that he decides what the others may eat or eat the entire kill by themselves. You have landed the first blow and have been presented with the heart, you need to know when to step aside and let the others partake, and we say that our traditions where retrogressive and primitive. Mutoro, from your vitriolic outburst you are implying that if I at one time helped Dr. Willy Mutunga when we where in nursery to climb onto the swing I am therefore free to commit any crime I please. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "hotline@cofek.co.ke" <hotline@cofek.co.ke> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 15:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off - Robert Yawe's Double-Speak Dear Robert, I see you senselessly call Cofek a "monster" thanks >>>(The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now).<<< We will be happy to defend ourselves if you offered us the right of reply. We are a very patient lot and we accept all manner of throwing mud (punches) at us but some are really too provocative to meet our restraint thresholds. When you sought our (Cofek read "monster's") intervention, on June 11, for your application for Post Master General position whose advertisement you called "skewed" as per your email below (which we dutifully did as per a letter we can't circulate here - were we still monsters? Were you even a Cofek member? Did you even bother to check whether or not we "represent" you as I've seen most listers query out of ignorance of the provisions of Societies Act Cap 108. Or are we only "monsters" when your interests and ours do not converge? I would like to caution you and other loud "egg sellers", like yourself, that ought to refrain from starting unnecessary "fights in the market place". Is it not double-speak? Otherwise we welcome being scrutinized, both as a Federation and individual elected officials (elected by the bonafide membership). Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke -----Original Message----- From: Robert Yawe [mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:25 PM To: hotline@cofek.co.ke Subject: Consumer Federation of Kenya: Post Master general appointment This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.cofek.co.ke/ from: Robert Yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, As an applicant in the recently advertised post of Post Master General for the Postal Corporation of Kenya I would like to bring to your attention a skewing of the requirements to favour the acting PMG. See the advisement on http://www.posta.co.ke/JobDetails.asp?ID=48&Title=Postmaster%20General%20(Chief%20Executive%20Officer) A note the following line for the words "postal optimization" an expertise that can only be acquired as an employee of PCK. Have a proven track record of innovation, transformation and postal optimization, combined with an appreciation of the intrinsic importance of technology in solution development and design. Regards ________________________________ From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Hi, The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now. Information PS Bitange Ndemo, who has been pushing for immediate migration and sits on the CCK board, has already ruled out the possibility of negotiating with Cofek alone. "The constitution dictates that we consult with stakeholders. We cannot therefore have talks with Cofek which has non elected officials. We shall however have consultations with all stakeholders. If we continue to give latitude to Cofek, we shall one time regret because in my view they will take up on everything," Ndemo wrote on The Kenya ICT Action Network platform on January 13. The standstill might see the negotiation window close, which will leave the fate of Tv consumers to the court". -- extract from your link Seems they are out to take maximum advantage of a dissolved parliament and the fact that all eyes are currently on the election, the shutting down of Citizen Tv transmitters being another sign of things to haven over the next 3 weeks. Dr. Ndemo, I believe the fact that there are 2 digital signal transmitters already operational that the analog frequency holders are in contravention of some law therefore CCK should proceed to turn off their transmitters. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 19:21 Subject: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper. CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1342:cckcofek-digital-tv-talks-fail-to-take-off&catid=1:latest-news _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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