4 May
2007
4 May
'07
1:16 p.m.
Agreed with Becky, I expected more views on this touchy subject of affordability. I do know we had technical hiccups but I trust they are now over...so lets hear more from the stakeholders - Consumers, Operators, Government, Regulators, etc. walu. --- Rebecca Wanjiku <rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com> wrote: > thanks Kai for the response, > we need many people responding to this issue, > > in my opinion, the government should find a way of using > the WB money through the private sector, so that the > private sector does not see as if the government is > competing and killing the profit margin, > > in this regard, the government could come up with some > MOU with the private sector so that some of the money > invested is government's and some PS. > that way, part of the profits will be ploughed back (it > will be mandatory) > > i remember during the OFC workshop, Kai shared how IFC > funded a private secotor consortium to carry out some > survey at USD 300k and a similar survey carried out by > govts was valued at USD 3m > > maybe this can help reduce costs and provide a way for > govt and PS to work together and deliver quality market > services, develop the content and all.. > > its just an opinion, its not absolute, > > lets hear as many voices as possible, > it is at these forums/discussions that great ideas come > up, > > regards > > Kai Wulff <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> wrote: Hello, > > we leave it to the ISPs to create the demand. We were > hoping that with our > rural initiatives, like connecting schools and showing > them how to educate > the parents (and make money with this) will increase the > demand on a natural > way. > > What we have seen wit some Rural BTS, it takes about 12 > month until it is > break even ... > > The problem is when you create the demand and then some > World Bank money > starts to compete before you can recover the cost. It is > my strong believe > that wherever a device can be operated, there WILL be a > market. The private > sector needs the Government as a user there as well as > the private companies > and consumers. Only then will the prices drop! We still > focus too much on > the INTERNET, what most people need for a start is LOCAL > information and > communication .. so I would say: 90% local IP traffic and > 10% international > .. > > Kai > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Walumbe" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:26 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 5 - Statistics on > Affordability - > CCKInternetStudy Report > > > > Walu, > > > > I agree with you that affordablity is a factor > especially for rural > > communities when it comes to access to the internet. > But I think that lack > > of awareness is an even bigger factor. It's fine for > the urban folk (who > > already recognise the benefits to the internet etc.) > taking a short break > > in > > shags to have the internet access when back home, but > it there is no > > demand > > for the internet among the residents what is the point? > > > > So does KDN enter a market and then hope to create > demand or is their a > > market that demands the service or is it a little of > both? > > > > I understand that Kai would not be venturing into the > rural areas if it > > did > > not make any financial sense. Can anyone provide some > info/statistics on > > demand for internet access in rural areas? > > > > Joan Walumbe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Walubengo" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:01 AM > > Subject: [kictanet] Day 5 - Statistics on Affordability > - CCK > > InternetStudy > > Report > > > > > > Day 5- Statistics on Affordability. > > > > I acknowledge an interesting thread filtering in on > Trust relationships > > b/w > > IGOs/ISPs...feel free to continue contributing on that > as well as on > > today's theme on affordability (multi-tasking > > encouraged by internet technologies ...) > > > > and just to pick up from Kai's projection of KDN fiber > hitting Bungoma in > > early August 2007. This would be quite a welcome and > timely development, > > but at what cost to the consumer? To what extend will > the (internet) > > services be affordable to the rural/average > communities? > > > > Affordability is a subjective term gven that what is > considered cheap by > > the > > Bill Gates of this world is probably not so for the > average Kenyan on the > > street. In trying to get an objective measurement for > affordability, the > > Report pegged it on the national average incomes. In > other words, if the > > monthly average income in Kenya is around 100USD and if > the average > > monthly > > cost for internet access is also around 100USD then > obviously the average > > Kenyan will not bother with accessing the Internet - it > just becomes way > > beyond their means or too expensive or not affordable. > > > > The report indicated that access through the more > convenient Internet > > Dial-up/Desktop services costed over 200% the average > incomes (too > > expensive), while the same access through mobile > phones was costing just > > 8% > > of the average incomes (quite affordable). What needs > to be done in > > order > > to make Internet Services more afforable to Kenyans? > > > > 1 day deliberation on this one. > > > > walu. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet@kictanet.or.ke > > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Please unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@kictanet.or.ke > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Please unsubscribe or change your options at > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rebeccawanjiku%40yahoo.com > > > > Rebecca Wanjiku, > journalist, > p.o box 33515, > Nairobi.00600 > Kenya. > > Tel. 254 720 318 925 > > blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/ > > === message truncated ===> _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@kictanet.or.ke > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Please unsubscribe or change your options at http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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