Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this also inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by competitors in future,once we share the suspicion of competition sabotaging will reduce. We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable network to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable cut impacts on their lives,ultimately the communities are the best custodians in their areas,we should also encourage contractors to use locals in each of the areas the cable is enroute and let them instill a sense of ownership to this communities. If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could be building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to all interested providers. With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region and in the process loosing economic/employment opportunities, Concerned,frustrated Mahmoud Noor Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:20:02 To: noor<mahmoods21@gmail.com> Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 14 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) 2. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) 3. CISSP Review Course + Examination ( Nairobi Kenya) (Preston Odera) 4. Ignite Experience Center and Lifestyle Brochure (Njeri Rionge) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:14:08 +0300 From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> To: <jairah@kippra.or.ke> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Message-ID: <484401ca5f15$ab0cdfa0$01269ee0$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. Frustrated Kai -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von jairah@kippra.or.ke Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Colleagues What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. Kind regards Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry? -----Original Message----- From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage@nation.co.ke> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 To: <jairah@kippra.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jairah@kippra.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:16:41 +0300 From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> To: "'Jevans Nyabiage'" <jnyabiage@nation.co.ke> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Message-ID: <484601ca5f15$ae77f710$0b67e530$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people doing it we would not know the motives. The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who was not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for a partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants (happens very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal). Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the cable. Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know. Kai Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in disruption of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial sabotage. Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage. This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four hours, they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi. Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined? Jevans DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is intended for the use of the stated recipient only. 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