Hi David, We need to move forward and set the stage for the rest, all we need is to talk to KDN, OrangeTelkom or Safaricom to setup a conferencing server and we can have this brainstorm virtually. We where all up in arms when the cabinet went to Mombasa on a 11 million bonding session. Most of them are over 60 so they need a siesta after every 2 hours on activity, they don't know any better so lets show by example. If one of those mentioned above is game then I am ready to offer my time and skill to run the virtual conference. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Wed, 2/12/09, DAI <svarrer@digitalageinstitute.com> wrote: From: DAI <svarrer@digitalageinstitute.com> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications forbasiccomputer usage To: "LEO" <onyango.liech@gmail.com>, bitange@jambo.co.ke Cc: "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>, ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net, "Evans Ikua" <ikua.evans@gmail.com>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net> Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 10:45 Dear all, How about that we call for a grand meeting where we will do systematic brainstorming on the curriculum for the future ICT educations here in Kenya ? There are various very effective and systematic brain storming methods which can be used in large groups to reach consensus and conclusions in only 2-3 days. How do we gather the necessary financial support to make such an event take place for instance in January, we would in that case advertise the event in the Digital Age Journal, January 2010 issue, and we would report from the event in the February 2010 issue. I would propose that we simply meet, every one who have a positive interest in making Kenya a preferred outsourcing destination for High Tech - for instance in Software Development - and then we talk and systematically record what transpires.. Proposals welcome. We could have initial meetings in our institute. I propose that we meet for instance on Sunday, the 8th of December 2009, at 14:00. Our address is View Park Towers, 16th floor, Nairobi City. (Next to Anniversary Towers and opposite Alliance Francaise. Kind regards Digital Age Institute Ltd. David Svarrer ----- Original Message ----- From: LEO To: bitange@jambo.co.ke Cc: robert yawe ; ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net ; Evans Ikua ; ke-users ; DAI Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications forbasiccomputer usage I agree with the PS on the fact that we need to start from somewhere in terms of standards. It is a high time we started putting a caveat to guide towards best practice and good quality of the educational requirements. on the same line, we need to start vetting the graduates that come from the numerous universities with an IT based degree. Some of these degrees produce half baked graduates. LEO On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:59 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Robert, I am meeting with KASNEB next week to consider a local equivalent syllabus. Before we started CPA locally, we had to contend with ACCA for some time. Bottom line we need standards now as we move into more IT enabled services. Our prospective customers need the standards to gauge from where we are starting. I understand all you are saying although it is a challenge for us to start being more patriotic in all our endeavors. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:10:11 To: Evans Ikua<ikua.evans@gmail.com>; ke-users<ke-internetusers@bdix.net>; DAI<svarrer@digitalageinstitute.com> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications for basiccomputer usage _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers@bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers@bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers -- -- Regards LEO