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1. Re: Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to
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2. Re: Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to
developing world (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu))
3. Re: Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to
developing world (Wambua, Christopher)
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From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
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Mich/Ali,
I must also commend CCK on this process of vigorous engagement with Stakeholders.? I think it is either the new broom (read DG) sweeps better syndrome or the new constitution in action - but perhaps a mixture of both factors...
walu.
nb: I do hope eventually they share what they will present at WCIT.? They ofcourse are not compelled to take in everything from stakeholders but stakeholders have a right to know what was picked/ignored from their input.
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Michuki
I would have to agree with you on this.
Ali Hussein
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
>
>
>I have to say that am impressed with the process that the GoK and CCK
>has taken on the WCIT-12 debate. IMHO this is a proudly Kenyan moment.
>
>Regards,
>
>Michuki.
>
>
>On 9/24/12 7:55 AM, Wambua, Christopher wrote:
>> TIM and Listers,
>>
>> The African Common Proposals (which Kenya through CCK has been involved
>> in their development)are available on the CCK website at
>> http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/Public_Consultation.html
>>
>> CCK is inviting comments on the review to the ITRs to enrich the African
>> Common Proposals (ACPs), and where necessary, to develop national
>> positions ahead of the WCIT-12.
>>
>> The African region is meeting in Accra, Ghana, this week for third
>> African region preparatory meeting for the World Telecommunications
>> Standardization Assembly and the WCIT-12.
>>
>> The revised ACPs that will come out the Ghana meeting shall be uploaded
>> on the CCK website to keep the local ICT community and stakeholders
>> fully apprised on what is happening in this space.
>>
>> CCK is planning to convene a stakeholders meeting on WCIT-12 after the
>> Ghana meeting (and after compiling comments on the African proposals to
>> the review of ITRs) to discuss the final proposals that Kenya shall be
>> taking to WCIT-12 in Dubai.
>>
>> I hope this sheds light on this matter.
>>
>>
>> Christopher Wambua
>> Manager/Communications
>> Consumer and Public Affairs Division
>> Communications Commission of Kenya
>> P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800
>> KENYA
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kictanet
>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>> Behalf Of McTim
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:34 PM
>> To: Wambua, Christopher
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to
>> developing world
>>
>> hi, is there a link to the "africa region proposal"??
>>
>> rgds,
>>
>> McTim
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:35 AM, ?<alice@apc.org> wrote:
>>>
>> http://lirneasia.net/2012/09/harm-caused-by-ill-thought-out-wcit-proposa
>> ls-to-developing-world/S
>>>
>>> Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to developing world
>>> Report author Dr. Rohan Samarajiva, founding chair and CEO of
>> LIRNEasia and former telecommunication regulator in Sri Lanka, finds
>> that proposals contributed by ETNO and the Africa region could
>> artificially raise the cost of network interconnection, content
>> delivery, and quality of service, and that these costs would ultimately
>> be passed along to those least able to afford them or would result in
>> exclusion from the Internet economy.
>>>
>>>
>> http://lirneasia.net/2012/09/harm-caused-by-ill-thought-out-wcit-proposa
>> ls-to-developing-world/S
>>>
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From: "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)" <nmutungu@gmail.com>
To: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
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I remember the issue of consultations was raised during the EAIGF/ ITR
consultations.
Thanks CCK for facilitating public participation!
2012/9/24, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>:
> Michuki
>
> I would have to agree with you on this.
>
> Ali Hussein
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Michuki Mwangi
> <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>>
>> I have to say that am impressed with the process that the GoK and CCK
>> has taken on the WCIT-12 debate. IMHO this is a proudly Kenyan moment.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michuki.
>>
>> On 9/24/12 7:55 AM, Wambua, Christopher wrote:
>> > TIM and Listers,
>> >
>> > The African Common Proposals (which Kenya through CCK has been involved
>> > in their development)are available on the CCK website at
>> > http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/Public_Consultation.html
>> >
>> > CCK is inviting comments on the review to the ITRs to enrich the
>> > African
>> > Common Proposals (ACPs), and where necessary, to develop national
>> > positions ahead of the WCIT-12.
>> >
>> > The African region is meeting in Accra, Ghana, this week for third
>> > African region preparatory meeting for the World Telecommunications
>> > Standardization Assembly and the WCIT-12.
>> >
>> > The revised ACPs that will come out the Ghana meeting shall be uploaded
>> > on the CCK website to keep the local ICT community and stakeholders
>> > fully apprised on what is happening in this space.
>> >
>> > CCK is planning to convene a stakeholders meeting on WCIT-12 after the
>> > Ghana meeting (and after compiling comments on the African proposals to
>> > the review of ITRs) to discuss the final proposals that Kenya shall be
>> > taking to WCIT-12 in Dubai.
>> >
>> > I hope this sheds light on this matter.
>> >
>> >
>> > Christopher Wambua
>> > Manager/Communications
>> > Consumer and Public Affairs Division
>> > Communications Commission of Kenya
>> > P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800
>> > KENYA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: kictanet
>> > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>> > Behalf Of McTim
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:34 PM
>> > To: Wambua, Christopher
>> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals
>> > to
>> > developing world
>> >
>> > hi, is there a link to the "africa region proposal"??
>> >
>> > rgds,
>> >
>> > McTim
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:35 AM, <alice@apc.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> > http://lirneasia.net/2012/09/harm-caused-by-ill-thought-out-wcit-proposa
>> > ls-to-developing-world/S
>> >>
>> >> Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to developing world
>> >> Report author Dr. Rohan Samarajiva, founding chair and CEO of
>> > LIRNEasia and former telecommunication regulator in Sri Lanka, finds
>> > that proposals contributed by ETNO and the Africa region could
>> > artificially raise the cost of network interconnection, content
>> > delivery, and quality of service, and that these costs would ultimately
>> > be passed along to those least able to afford them or would result in
>> > exclusion from the Internet economy.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > http://lirneasia.net/2012/09/harm-caused-by-ill-thought-out-wcit-proposa
>> > ls-to-developing-world/S
>> >>
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>> > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT
>> > policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform
>> > in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth
>> > and development.
>> >>
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>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and
>> development.
>>
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>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
>> bandwidth,
>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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>
>
>
> --
>
> *Ali Hussein*
>
>
>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>
> Skype: abu-jomo
>
--
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Kenya
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:39:00 +0300
From: "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke>
To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com>, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke>
Cc: World Conference on International Telecommunications
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals
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Walu
It is important to note that all the regions of the world have different
positions on the ITRs. There are those who are of the view that the ITRs
should remain as they are. Another school of thought argues that a
review is necessary but should be minimal, only addressing those
provisions that have been overtaken by technological and market
developments. The third school argues that review should be extensive as
the global telecoms industry has changed enormously since 1988.
The outcome of WCIT-12 will be a product of negotiations/trade-off
between these three schools of thought. And that why all regions of the
world are developing regional positions so that they can have higher
leverage in the negotiations. What Kenya, or Africa for that matter,
will take to Dubai will therefore have to be subjected to this process.
I believe the ITU shall publish the final ITRs (Final Acts) after the
conference.
I hope this is helpful.
Wambua
From: Walubengo J [mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:07 PM
To: Ali Hussein
Cc: World Conference on International Telecommunications; KICTAnet ICT
Policy Discussions; info
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to
developing world
Mich/Ali,
I must also commend CCK on this process of vigorous engagement with
Stakeholders. I think it is either the new broom (read DG) sweeps
better syndrome or the new constitution in action - but perhaps a
mixture of both factors...
walu.
nb: I do hope eventually they share what they will present at WCIT.
They ofcourse are not compelled to take in everything from stakeholders
but stakeholders have a right to know what was picked/ignored from their
input.
________________________________
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
To: jwalu@yahoo.com
Cc: World Conference on International Telecommunications
<WCIT-12@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; info <info@cck.go.ke>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to
developing world
Michuki
I would have to agree with you on this.
Ali Hussein
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Michuki Mwangi
<michuki@swiftkenya.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I have to say that am impressed with the process that the GoK and CCK
has taken on the WCIT-12 debate. IMHO this is a proudly Kenyan moment.
Regards,
Michuki.
On 9/24/12 7:55 AM, Wambua, Christopher wrote:
> TIM and Listers,
>
> The African Common Proposals (which Kenya through CCK has been
involved
> in their development)are available on the CCK website at
> http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/Public_Consultation.html
>
> CCK is inviting comments on the review to the ITRs to enrich the
African
> Common Proposals (ACPs), and where necessary, to develop national
> positions ahead of the WCIT-12.
>
> The African region is meeting in Accra, Ghana, this week for third
> African region preparatory meeting for the World Telecommunications
> Standardization Assembly and the WCIT-12.
>
> The revised ACPs that will come out the Ghana meeting shall be
uploaded
> on the CCK website to keep the local ICT community and stakeholders
> fully apprised on what is happening in this space.
>
> CCK is planning to convene a stakeholders meeting on WCIT-12 after the
> Ghana meeting (and after compiling comments on the African proposals
to
> the review of ITRs) to discuss the final proposals that Kenya shall be
> taking to WCIT-12 in Dubai.
>
> I hope this sheds light on this matter.
>
>
> Christopher Wambua
> Manager/Communications
> Consumer and Public Affairs Division
> Communications Commission of Kenya
> P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800
> KENYA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kictanet
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bwambua>
=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
> Behalf Of McTim
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:34 PM
> To: Wambua, Christopher
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals
to
> developing world
>
> hi, is there a link to the "africa region proposal"??
>
> rgds,
>
> McTim
>
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:35 AM, <alice@apc.org> wrote:
>>
>
http://lirneasia.net/2012/09/harm-caused-by-ill-thought-out-wcit-proposa
> ls-to-developing-world/S
>>
>> Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to developing world
>> Report author Dr. Rohan Samarajiva, founding chair and CEO of
> LIRNEasia and former telecommunication regulator in Sri Lanka, finds
> that proposals contributed by ETNO and the Africa region could
> artificially raise the cost of network interconnection, content
> delivery, and quality of service, and that these costs would
ultimately
> be passed along to those least able to afford them or would result in
> exclusion from the Internet economy.
>>
>>
>
http://lirneasia.net/2012/09/harm-caused-by-ill-thought-out-wcit-proposa
> ls-to-developing-world/S
>>
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>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT
> policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for
reform
> in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth
> and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable
behaviors
> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
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> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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