Hi, I made a less provocative quote about IBM sometime back and I ended up receiving threatening phone calls for self appointed advocates. Hope the same does not befall you. Regards PS. In teresting read Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Gideon <gideonrop@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 10:00 Subject: [kictanet] The King is Dead...Long Live the King (The Remarkable story of IBM's Mainframe Computer) Hi, Like any threatened species that survives, the mainframe evolved. It has been tweaked to master new programming languages, like Java, and new software operating systems, like Linux. In the fast lane of the ICT world, IBM had to find the best way to keep the trademark King alive, The Mainframe had to undergo numerous changes , Such is the world of technology. Thanks. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:38 AM, <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Send kictanet mailing list submissions to
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:28:46 +0300 From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> To: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Counterfeit Eggs and why we must automate produce records Message-ID: <CAH5fjchxF2mSCy34+TdaawfdkG5Qig0wrXRd6V+QT6Rh6my+jw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
This is shocking to say the least. Local markets must be protected. The story about free markets is hogwash since the countries that preach it the most do not allow foreign companies to dominate their markets. This reminds me of the political nightmare that ensued when a Chinese company attempted to buy an american oil company. And this happened in the 'freest' country on the planet.
We must lock down our markets.
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Mark
Not in China. This is an interesting topic on ethics and the profit motive. Probably beyond that its criminal.
Dr.Ndemo raises a point that is beyond this though. How have we opened up our countries to everything when we should actually be making a case for protecting nascent industries from unfair competition?
For example Japan and Korea still protect their motor industries even after 20 years; America and the EU still has major subsidies for its agricultural sector. And the list goes on as can be seen by cases piling up at the WTO:-
http://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/dispu_by_country_e.htm#complaina...
An interesting fact: Only Egypt and South Africa have cases pending both for or against them at the WTO. This begs the question:-
Don't African countries have issues to be resolved at the WTO? Doesn't Kenya? Last time I checked we were members...
This issue of fake eggs just brings to the fore the implications both from a health perspective and an economical one the effects of free trade across borders without proper mechanisms to protect citizens and local industry.
Ali Hussein
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Fake Eggs? how. . .what. . .why would you go to all that effort? wouldn't the real eggs be cheaper?
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, When ISO standards were introduced to Kenya, few of us paid attention. Europe today insists on produce data including the soil type, amount fertilizer, chemicals aaplied etc. Time has come when we need all poultry data. There is evidence that it is far cheaper to produce conterfeit eggs than waiting for the checken to lay them. See link below and why we must be vigilant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0US7JEfhsrA
We need better scanning of all containers coming into this country and possibly monitor movement of all foreigners who have doggy incomes.
Ndemo.
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