there are no laws guarding issues such as chief or police asking for your ID, they say they want to know if one is kenyan or not or if one is a wanted criminal or not... the closest we came to dealing with this as i can recall is the IPPG document which said one does not have to walk with the ID, it was however not made law and therefore no mechanism for enforcement. going to sheria house for info.....hmm that is debatable in regard to confidentiality, i think we have a right to est who owns what, but again this is subject to abuse, the case of logbook information given by times tower suffices, crooks were using the information provided to forge logbooks and sell non existent vehicles, so there need for information that can be supplied, maybe minimal information should be provided and like in the Google/Earthlink case, they should define what is minimal information....to make sure we all secure somehow.. about the speeches being posted on respective websites, that will reduce the amount of requests and make sure all ministries update their websites.... ----- Original Message ---- From: Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> To: rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:22:19 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 1: Why Freedom of Information (FOI) Act? AND Day 2: What are the current modalities for accessing data This is slightly long contribution and I hope no information overload again... Q: When the police, Chief, etc ask for one's ID, does it expose the individual to tribal discrimination? Q: When one asks Sheria House for registered companies returns, does it breach corporate confidentiality (along the way "babyteleas") ? Q: Is one entitled to archived/historical data within 30 days, for example, the names of all chiefs that served, say, Makadara since independence? Q: Foreign entities operating in government offices, e.g. Maji House, Research Centres, etc must equally be subjected to disclose research information they are collecting.... - "National Interests" must be better defined to safeguard against past abuses. - All government speeches must be published at their respective ministries 'websites within 24 hrs - Companies must disclose personal information collected, the purposes and the uses made - otherwise discriminatory consumer profiling will defeat the spirit of this policy. -------- sorry in case below overloads------ A recent US example on consumer concerns regarding "Information Society, Users Profiling, Privacy and Individual Freedoms" ACLU slams final San Francisco Wi-Fi contract Civil liberties protection group claims the contract EarthLink and Google signed with the city fails to provide ample protection against data collection By Stephen Lawson, IDG News Service February 07, 2007 The ACLU has turned up the political heat on EarthLink and Google's plan for Wi-Fi in San Francisco, telling the city's Board of Supervisors that the proposed contract doesn't have enough privacy or free speech protections. The ACLU of Northern California said in a letter to the supervisors on Tuesday that both EarthLink's paid service and Google's free offering would fall short of most of the group's recommendations on collection and sharing of personal data and possible tracking of users. Among other things, there are no limits on what kind of information EarthLink can or will collect, and terms for the Google service call for requiring "minimal" information on login without defining "minimal," the letter said. In addition to privacy concerns, the group is worried that knowing information is being collected will cause users to limit what they say and do on the Internet. The city and EarthLink agreed on a contract last month, and EarthLink is confident the closely watched project will get off the ground with deployment of a proof-of-concept network starting in April, said company spokesman Jerry Grasso. But the proposal has been under fire since before the contract was completed, and some members of the board have said a municipally owned system would be better for the city. EarthLink negotiated the deal with the city and would build and operate the network, bringing Google in as a tenant providing the free, slower service. Some critics have warned that San Francisco could be giving a virtual monopoly on citywide Wi-Fi to private companies without ensuring user privacy or complete coverage. The ACLU said a municipal Wi-Fi network should let users opt in or out of any service that collects data on what they look at or search for on the Internet, or their e-mail messages. There are no provisions for that in the paid or free service terms, it said. EarthLink can only save location information for 60 days, but there's no limit to how long it can store personal protected information and no limit to how long Google can store any information, the ACLU said. Users of the EarthLink service can opt out of receiving marketing materials, but EarthLink has free reign to share personal information with partner companies that help it deliver or promote the service. Both service providers can hand over users' personal information for law enforcement or national security reasons without a warrant or notification of the user, though they would require "court-ordered documentation" before doing so. If information is sought for a civil suit, EarthLink or Google would have to tell the user first. EarthLink's Grasso declined to comment on the ACLU's letter, saying EarthLink has not seen it. Google and city representatives could not immediately be reached for comment. http://www.infoworld.com /article/07/02/07/Hnaclusfwifi _1.html?source=rss&url=http:/ /www.infoworld.com/article/07 /02/07/Hnaclusfwifi_1.html joseph kihanya <kihanyajn@yahoo.com> wrote: Dear all, These is a Summary of the two days posts. Day 1 That FOI should be framed as a right not a freedom. That FOI should seek to protect e-government/ promote accountability That if FOI is through e-government, should it not be at no cost? That FOI will allow for a flow of information thereby eliminating rumours. That the periods of access under the policy are too longi.e 15 and 30 days, the later being after appeal on refusal Day 2 That the current environment for access to information is dictated byb the Official Secrets Act which is understood in government service? that all information is secret.Case in point ICT policy. Thata policy on access( protection) to data held by the private sector is required. ************************* This has come from the two posts which is greatly appreciated by yours truly. The comments are few. The days are going by and it may be that extensions on these tow important themes would have to be extended to tomorrow with the addition of DAY 3's THEME. Does anyone have an idea as to how debate may be stimulated further.The Policy document understandably is not very sassy.....law most times is not...but there must be a way.... Anybody? Also ,Please somebody comment on the Bolivia story.....public interests group persons? Kihanya P.S.I will introduce theme for day 3 tomorrow. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Please unsubscribe or change your options at http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/alex.gakuru%40yahoo.com Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! 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