@Wash, I hear you, I would just like to fully understand what might have gone so wrong that Google's spokesperson chose to take responsibility, apologise and offer 'further investigation' Obviously, till then all we have is speculation - nevertheless I feel that it would be inappropriate for myself or anyone else to condemn or exonerate Google until more info is available about exactly what happened. As Magdali put it: "who knew "or should have known" what was going on.... Best regards, Brian On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Brian,
I'd like to believe that Google doesn't retain Sales Agents who are given unrealistic targets, because that is the only way I think this could happen from their end. Like some others elsewhere, I want to believe that this stunt was being pulled by Agents other than Google's.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 20:09, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
So I'm still trying to understand how, after Googles admission, listers here are somehow still trying to exonerate.... #puzzled
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>wrote:
Should we then infer that Google, just like Mocality, can make similar allegations that their name was dropped alongside Mocality's by this unknown party? Even after a Google VP has acknowledged impropriety on Google's part?
Some weeks / months ago was called by a person claiming to be from Google about setting up a free web site.
Could tell from the presentation this could not be a Google employee so I asked questions including whether she was working for a Google Partner / Agent.
She affirmed herself to be working for a Google Partner. At one point in my drilling, she had to revert to someone else and call me back with answers.
Have no doubt this debacle was out of Google' s control. On Jan 16, 2012 4:28 PM, "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/16/12, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am wondering what Google's aswer is to this clear case of dirty > > tricks. > > > > > Their initial reaction was : > > 'We were mortified to learn that a team of people working on a Google > project improperly used Mocality’s data and misrepresented our > relationship with Mocality to encourage customers to create new > websites. We’ve already unreservedly apologised to Mocality. We’re > still investigating exactly how this happened, and as soon as we have > all the facts, we’ll be taking the appropriate action with the
> involved.' > > Am sure we will hear more soon. > > -- > Cheers, >
Google PR team are misjudging our intelligence with such a flimsy statement. Even a kid can read in between the lines.
It was from nelson mattos, who I think is VP for EMEA, not from PR.
Not being a child, I can't read in between any of these lines, maybe you can fill us in on what you infer?
Knowing what I know about google, the folks in charge of Google KE (and the region), I am quite confident that none of these shenanigans were approved by them.
I think that James was right when he suggested it was a sub-contractor who was responsible and not Google folks themselves. Still, Google needs to make this right, as they (and their partners) are all tarnished by this misbehavior.
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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