Good points Beryl Best regards Barrack Otieno On Friday, 25-10-2019 at 16:04 Beryl Aidi via kictanet wrote: Dear listersComing in a bit late to this discussion, and largely as a silent observer, I hope my observations are not too late. My view is that the licensing and registration requirements are ways to muzzle the public, prevent people from expressing themselves freely; largely with an aim to keep criticism of leaders at bay and ultimately an attempt to clampdown on the rights and freedoms guaranteed in Articles 31-37 of the C on freedom of expression, access to information, press freedom, freedom of assembly (in terms of groups etc), freedom of association. 1. Narrow definition of what a blog is, confusing it with news, when the universal definition of a blog is a weblog or a log of written material posted on a website. 2. It leaves out platforms like Twitter which is considered microblogging, which is vague and can easily land one in problems. 3. License to social media platforms to operate in Kenya- What does this mean? Is it the companies or is it about individuals using the platforms? And how practical is this? a. If it is about the companies what obligations are there besides paying a license fee? If it is about raising revenues then perhaps should a debate on taxing the companies be. Or will we end up with alternatives that create a China wall like China’s alternatives such as Baidu for Google, Sina Weibo for Twitter or WeChat for Facebook? b. If it is about users, will individuals now be required to get a license to use social media? Do people now have to get a permit to talk to and connect with family and friends or to express themselves publicly? 3. Registration of bloggers- let’s say that blogging is like letters to the editor or opinion pieces in a paper. Do people register to share their opinion? 4. What about data retention? Is this going to be like Tanzania's case where cybercafe operators are now required to retain data in their servers for a year? Where does that leave the right to privacy? Al in all, it is a shame for Kenya to be replicating the worst practices of its repressive neighbours when it has been the leader in the the region. Best Beryl Aidi On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 10:32 AM tevin mwenda via kictanet wrote: Hi Kanini and all of the listers I think the underlying issues here is a lack of knowledge from our leaders on how social media works and the benefits it has on society. It seems more on an attempt by them to settle personal scores and particularly as it now appears they are all on the 2022 train am seeing some mischief here. This is also perhaps best seen in the recent article that I wrote regarding how public figures use social media and their blocking sprees. https://www.kictanet.or.ke/?p=40802 Maybe it has downed on them that you can not do this everytime someone disagrees with you thus the need to come up with more elaborate ways like this social media regulations. I think their is need of institutions like Kenya School of Government to conduct trainings to our leaders regarding social media and just technology in general. On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 23:31 Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet, wrote: Barrack :-) I like the way you quoted PLO (The Shakespear of our times... no pun intended) However, I think the analogy of mosquito being referenced on the legislators noises... I think it is more like an AirBus with a busted exhaust pipe! We need to respond not by putting on ear muffs rather we need to get up and make sure the Airbus's exhaust is repaired the _noise_ is TOO LOUD to be ignored. I concur with Alice's suggestion on capacity building through public participation however I would also say that these funds for capacity building should be directed for that capacity building of _Wanjiku_. Why am I specific on _Wanjiku_? if the doors were to be opened for this fund to be used for capacity building of our _waheshimiwas_... there will be many Naivasha, Malindi etc retreats for such and the purpose of the whole thing will be lost. I mean no disrespect on this rather what we need is to nip the source of the problem... the angry un-informed Wanjiku venting out frustrations through social media. It aint gonna happen overnight, _Wanjiku _is angry and without mellowing down this anger with knowledge we will see her being hit more by the same people who made her angry! _Capacity build Wanjiku! Don't gag her Muheshimiwa Injendi!_ On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 9:52 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote: Dear Walu, Mercy et al, all protocols observed, I think we are trying to solve problems that don't exist. The internet value system is based on what is wrong offline is wrong online. We don't need to legislate this since the Internet is a means to an end not an end in itself. Just a tool. Its like banning preachers from using the handheld microphones because they are loud yet we can ask them to use a particular volume. Clearly there is need for capacity building for our members of parliament on emerging issues such as new media. As Prof PLO Lumumba said, we should not respond to a mosquito bite with a hammer. Regards On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 6:59 pm Walubengo J via kictanet, wrote: My thoughts on this were captured here... WALUBENGO: Bill yet another attempt to censor social media [1] WALUBENGO: Bill yet another attempt to censor social mediaThis is the classic definition of sending a chilling effect on online freedoms through draconian social media laws. [1] I hope the bill gets to be DOA...Dead on Arrival. walu On Thursday, October 24, 2019, 11:42:11 AM GMT+3, kanini mutemi via kictanet wrote: Thank you for the views- please keep them coming. Let’s also look at this from a Freedom of Expression point of view because at the root of it ‘bloggers’ (and anyone who shares anything online) are expressing themselves. _Is it constitutionally sound to require registration before expression? Think of it as a ‘license to speak’. Is this justifiable in our constitutional framework?_ On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 11:20, Wamathai (HapaKenya) wrote: Good morning, I have many thoughts on this but to be honest it is such a bad idea. I see this bill as the continuation of attempts to muzzle free speech and freedom of the media online that was initially started by the state. In the past, there was a reliance on existing vague laws but some of them have been declared unconstitutional hence the change of tact. In the past, this kind of intimidation has primarily targeted influencers and bloggers but also ordinary online users have been targeted. To be targeted, all they do is just brand you a blogger, a loose term used by politicians & the media to refer to online users (and not just organized online content creators). In 2015, Nancy Mbindillah was arrested in Embu for 'insulting' the Governor. She was basically arrested for expressing her opinion on various operations in the County [2]. I fear that this law will be used to target anyone who shares uncomfortable opinions or facts under the banner of 'undesirable content'. The attempts to license organized online content creators (we can call them bloggers and influencers) is a regional trend with Tanzania charging $930 and Uganda having proposed regulations on the same. The basic idea, like in Kenya with this new bill, is to create an environment where free speech is punished and those who haven't registered under the regulations are also punished. The long term effects of this law is disastrous to free discourse and if you bring in the online media element, freedom of the media as well. In my opinion, as an online content creator and an official of the Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE), this law should not be allowed as it goes against fundamental freedoms and rights as guaranteed by the constitution. ----- James Wamathai | CEO, hapakenya.com [3] m: 0777-555101 e: w@hapakenya.com | Twitter: @Wamathai [4] Follow Hapa Kenya: _Twitter_: @HapaKenya [5], _FB_: fb.com/HapaKenya [6] On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 12:15, kanini mutemi via kictanet wrote: Good morning Listers, As GG had alerted us last week, there is a bill before the National Assembly that seeks to amend the Kenya Information and Communication Act by including a part on Regulation of Social Media. I will lead us on a discussion on this Bill. Between 2016 to date, we have seen many attempts to regulate social media conduct. Interestingly, one such attempt, the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes Act, where many of its sections on regulation of social media, have been suspended is coming up for hearing today. Now we tackle yet another attempt to ‘fix’ social media. To start with, I will post the definitions proposed in the bill of the word ‘social media platform’ and ‘blogging’: "_blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;_ _"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;_ What are your initial thoughts? What ‘problem’ is Hon. Injendi trying to fix with this bill? Who will fall under those definitions? 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