We may object to some or all of the amendments but we must adhere to the spirit of our new constitution, part of which specifically urges the Govt and the citizenry to engage through public participation. It is also critical that we in the sector don’t create a vacuum in this space for nature surely abhors a vacuum.

Hi John,

I think it is worth commenting otherwise someone else will comment on
our behalf. We have many Kenyans with public interest at heart who
contribute towards the many strides this country makes yet we keep
reversing the same without thinking through well. We should rise up in
one accord and say no to what is not right for our nation without fear
or favour, i beleive the network is apolitical, our key interest in
promoting the best use of ICT's.

Regards

On 10/4/17, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote:

My sense is that the ammendments are rushed if not too reactionary. Also

too close to an election (Just days!). As Grace Bomu observes, there is

much we could contribute but with the nature of the process, you wonder

whether its worth putting our valuable time in it.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <

kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Dear Grace,

I  object to the amendments . I have gone through the bill and found

some of the amendments to be ill advised. I think we should always

uphold the spirit of the law other than the letter of the law. For

instance when we say that in the event manual transmission defers from

electronic transmission the manual transmission will carry the day yet

we know basic principles of computing such as Garbage in Garbage out

(GIGO) or What You See is What you get (WYSWYG) it shows that the

processes and use of electronic system as supplementary aids is

misunderstood why should we entertain a situation where the input

differs from the output. Electronic aids only make the system more

efficient and effective they don't alter results unless there is

interference.

On another note, we have new members of parliament who are just being

inducted, it would therefore be untrue to claim that they have

understood the election management system and processes which have

taken time  to develop and now want to dismantle it to suit temporary

political interests , i think we should uphold the interests of the

country first and i would urge our elected leaders to be at the fore

front of this effort. The election laws might not be perfect but it

would be prudent to have a consensus based approach of scrutinizing

any weak areas and addressing the same based on merit.

Finally and in my humble opinion, in as much as we have deployed

technology and used technology to make many advances in different

spheres of our nation, we are yet to fully embrace and intergrate

Information Technology Governance principles and practices in our

institutions be they public or private. I think this is our archilles

heel and this are the issues that might need to be addressed. We

deploy good systems but lack the manners to use the same correctly let

alone protect the data under our custody. A data protection act will

help resolve some of this challenges we are trying to resolve

politically, the election laws amendment bill is just a red herring,

technology is here to stay and will continue affecting every aspect of

our lives if we don't address IT, IT will address us politically and

socially sooner than later.

Regards

Best Regards

On 10/3/17, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet

<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Hi all,

There is a lot to say about the substance of the proposed law but I

think

the process is ill advised. There should be no amendments to the law

given

the very limited time period  before the rerun.

And although we have been invited because we care about technology, I

would

like to believe that we also care about the nation. We shall achieve

very

little in terms of building trust in our processes and institutions in

such

a rushed process. Shelve this law.

On 2 Oct 2017 16:57, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" <

kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers

Greetings!

KICTANet has been invited on Thursday October 5, 2017, to a meeting of

the

select committees on Election laws 2017. Considering that there will

be

many other groups participating, we would like to present a memorandum

containing our specific concerns as they pertain to tech issues.

Further, we realize that the time is too short to hold a moderated

debate

and therefore would like to hear from you on specific tech issues. We

have

to do this by *Wednesday October 4, 2017 at** 2 p.m. *Thereafter, I

and

Kanini Mutemi will collate the views in readiness for Thursday. In

addition, it would be good for those who participated in the KICTANet

observation mission on August 8, 2017 to also attend this Thursday

meeting.

We attach the two bills, and would like to draw your attention to:

1. Election Laws (Amendment) Bill

  - Clause 6 (Electronic AND manual transmission of presidential

  election results, with manual taking precedence).

  - Clause 7 (Substantially amends Section 44 of the Elections Act

which

  prescribes the use of technology in the conduct of elections).

  - Clause 8 (Amends Section 44A on use of a complementary mechanism

for

  identification of voters).

  - Clause 9 (Amends Section 83 on the effect of non-compliance).

  - Clause 11 (Criminal liability for failing to sign documents).

2. Election Offences (Amendment) Bill-

  - Clause 2 (Amends Election Offences Act to allow the government to

  publish advertisements on its achievements during the election

period).

Kindlyprovide your input by providing which clause you think is

problematic, what your concerns are, and the recommendations.

Asanteni sana.

Rgds

Grace

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