Kagai, I am a bit surprised by your comments. What is the difference between a dead clone and dead used computer? They are all e-waste. They both have a similar lifespan, and sometimes a clone can be outlived by a used branded computer. Consider this; 6 years ago I sold used Compaq P3s to a company that is still using them today. Clones that I sold after that have all died. And what about that comment about those who "MUST" work with the used computers? They don't choose that way. It's their small pockets that determine what they can afford. If I can't afford a car from the DT Dobie show room, then am happy to drive one that has done 8 years but it's still got another 10 to go. But you can't tell me not to drive at all. What you saying is tantamount to telling people that if they cant get bread then they should eat cake... I am anti-dumping and I care about the environment. But I just believe that there is a better way of tackling this. -- Evans Ikua Linux Professional Association of Kenya Tel: +254-20-2250381, Cell: +254-722 955 831 Eagle House, 2nd Floor Kimathi Street, Opp. Corner House www.lpakenya.org Quoting Bildad Kagai <billkagai@gmail.com>:
On Aug 30, 2009, at 11:40 PM, waudo siganga wrote:
As for the environmental fears, I think (with respect to Prof) that is hyperbole like Y2K.
Waudo Esq,
You compel me to make one final submission to this debate because it now sounds like we have a division and its a matter of who wins (for donations and against donations) whilst in essence we are meant to be on the same side....for Kenya and Kenyans.
Someone mentioned we produce 3000 tonnes of e-waste every year locally. Do we then really need to import new and extra waste at a cost both financial and environmental?? If we had an elaborate process where each private company (including government) knew where they need to take their old computers for refurbishment to assist those in other sectors of the pyramid, then they would be available to Nicholas Kitavi and others at an even cheaper cost. Lets work with our own waste.
I hear this list has over 300 observers....lurkers (both international and local) and the last thing we want to sound is typical Kenyan...where we don't agree on Mau, Constitution and even computer donations. At least let us agree that for those who MUST work with refurbished computers, Kenya and its environs has the capacity to producer cheaper waste which is less toxic.
With regard to e-waste being a hyperbole, I urge you to think again and again and.......Again.