@Alex, Thnx for the update. Always learning from the list. So maybe thats where the problem is. For such an important, critical and public task, am not sure 'Expression of Interest' route provides the expected rigour in terms of the specification of the what is to be done. A National /International tender would have given the public more access to the technical details/specs like:- 'What exactly are the winning Auditors expected to do and how would they do it?'. 'What are the Audit objectives, processes and outcomes going to look like? Do they address the challenges and fears expressed by key stakeholders (politicians, citizens, media, tech community etc) At the moment, such details are not public and so it becomes difficult to measure success of the audit process. Even if KPMG did a good job, it will be difficult to measure that in the court of public opinion since the public is not privy to the details of the task. walu. From: "awatila@yahoo.co.uk" <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 4:40 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? #yiv8166031047 #yiv8166031047 -- _filtered #yiv8166031047 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 5 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8166031047 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8166031047 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv8166031047 #yiv8166031047 p.yiv8166031047MsoNormal, #yiv8166031047 li.yiv8166031047MsoNormal, #yiv8166031047 div.yiv8166031047MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}#yiv8166031047 a:link, #yiv8166031047 span.yiv8166031047MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8166031047 a:visited, #yiv8166031047 span.yiv8166031047MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8166031047 .yiv8166031047MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv8166031047 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv8166031047 div.yiv8166031047WordSection1 {}#yiv8166031047 Walu,In terms of procurement law if you choose the expression of interest way you have to go the entire process. If they did as you suggested a losing bidder could easily appeal at ppoa or at the judiciary. Regards, Alex Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Walubengo J via kictanet Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:41 PM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Walubengo J Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128,926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? @Joel, Am not defending KPMG but I know folks there who are very qualified and competent to do this audit thing for IEBC. For me the problem lies in the process IEBC may have used in procuring the audit services. They send out an Expression of Interest (EoI) and then selected the winner based on perhaps what the various auditors proposed (IEBC can correct this, since I stand to be corrected) Such a process - beauty contest - is always faced with the risk that the client (IEBC) may end up with what looks 'sexy' rather than what really needs to be done. Perhaps IEBC should have used the Expression of Interest gathered to provide some baseline specs and then factor in the details of what needs to be done in terms of not just auditing the register, but also the processes around it. The improved specification should then have gone out on national and international tender. Focusing purely on auditing the voter register records misses the point since a register can be cleaned today, and soiled tomorrow because the processes, systems and procedures revolving around it may not be strong enough to preserve the necessary integrity. walu. From: JOEL CENAS OJUNG'A via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: JOEL CENAS OJUNG'A <ojayc19@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC registry shows 128, 926 records of shared voter details - Who audits the IEBC database? I also feel KPMG is largely compromised and lacks the moral authority to audit the IEBC registry.On Jan 26, 2017 14:07, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It could be that we are having the famous case of MS Access Database Administrators at IEBC. On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:16 PM, julianne anyim via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: My same exact sentiments @Ronald Ojino. Sounds deliberate to me. What sort of a database are they using? Julie On 24 Jan 2017 21:00, "Ronald Ojino via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: My rather basic question is how is that database designed...it lacks data integrity (how did that happen?) ..could this be delibrate .Regards,Ronald Ojino On 24-Jan-2017 8:06 PM, "John Kieti via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: IMHO, We need an early spotlight on the competences, capacities and integrity of people running IEBC's ICT functions. We cannot afford to have mediocrity being exhibited in the ICT profession, yet again. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: IEBC Chair Wafula Chebukati said that these cases of multiple registrations are attributed to data entry errors at the time of registration, possible use of one ID to register more than once, attempted registration of more than one person using same ID as well as shared National ID numbers. “The Commission is working closely with National Registration Bureau (NRB) to clean up all the shared IDs. In addition, a team of Registration officers and ICT operators are conducting further cleanup,” said Chebukati. He said that the provisional register will be availed to members of the public for verification once the voter enlistment exercise is over. 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