Interesting insights..! Perhaps if one was to take a pause if you will, and really take the long, hard and objective view across board, then one might realize that our malaise truly runs deep indeed, and this could just be but a tip of the iceberg. Suffice it to say that achieving "institutional independence" as a framework right at this moment is a tall order indeed..! Most tend to adopt a vertical "servant-master" approach. Look across institutions..! So, again, where did the rain start beating us on a journey we had embarked on so earnestly to truly build & transform these institutions..? Is it power, politics, influence, or bourgeoisie, or all these..? An answer somehow, lies therein, somewhere. Guys, I daresay we inherited some pretty bad "colonialist" mindset/mentality on their way out as they handed independence to us. We have to throw that out the window. Good thing, this debate/conversation is ongoing.. Well, inescapably, all is not lost. Harry On 24 Jan 2018 20:19, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Grace Thanks for that trip down memory lane.. Lest we forget.. :-) *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:09 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Kelvin, Please refer to the thread "independent Communications Commission of Kenya" that gives diverse views on what independence means (for example, functional and financial independence) and how in the end, the communications law was amended. This background supports the points that Jaindi is raising that interdependence between the Authority and Ministry should only be at policy and not financial level. Thread starts here https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-No vember/031757.html
On 24 Jan 2018 10:48 am, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Kevin
I like your response. The interplay between independence and interdependence. :-)
I fully agree with you.
I have one issue though and this is one of *Corporate Governance*. The monies we are talking about are not small change in the scheme of things. A million here and 25 million there..This adds up.
No organization worth its salt should be run 'Kiholela' like that. With all due respect to the Mandarins at the MOICT. They should know better. The right way to do things is to sit with the CA and have a discussion at the end of every year as to which activities they would like CA to fund. These then should be consolidated and ExComm (Executive Committee of the Senior Management Team at CA) presents this to the Board of Directors for ratification and it becomes a budget item and above board.
The CA is a critical institution and the goings on there smack of machinations to control the billions that CA has in its budget. It's wrong for MOICT to treat the CA budget as its personal piggy bank/slush fund. The MOICT has a vote. Let it live within its means like we all do. And in case they are unable to the paragraph before this should be a guideline on how to go about it so that no one is exposed.
Lastly, I also think what the Director General did, if the reporting has any truth to it is wrong. He simply should not have the power to approve extra-judicial budget items. This leaves him vulnerable later to manipulation. Let there be clear procedures on how these things are done. At the Boards that I sit in that in itself is a firing offence. Let us not expose our heads of government agencies to such manipulation. It is akin to abuse of power by MOICT. It simply is not acceptable.
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I am eagerly waiting for the report of the audit that is being currently conducted. This and the responses thereafter will give a clear indication of the situation at the CA.
As for the letters regarding the request of funds, I do not find any issue with this. The only condition is that these funds must be accounted for and even better a report written about the official activities that were attended to by whom, where and also what returns are to be gained from the engagements. And further follow up until the intended goals are achieved.
Our institutions need to be independent, yes. They are also inter-dependent. Having the PSs of the ICT or other Ministries does not have to be bad thing. It in fact can serve as a way to expedite decision making and enhance cooperation - basically doing away with inter-institutional bureaucracy.
Regards,
Kevin
On 24 January 2018 at 13:06, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
In Summary
- Surely, somebody must be made to answer for those letters. - This is the sector that gave Kenya global leadership in mobile banking.
https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/To-save-CA-from-bullie s-restore-its-autonomy-and-independence/440808-4275382-a055q 6/index.html
PS. Its sad to see what is happening at CA because we debated extensively on this list the process that gave it its autonomy. I am confident the team at the helm of the ministry has what it takes to put us back on the correct path.
Regards
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