[?]Listers, as we discuss the issue of IT in infrastructure development we digress when we only mention Thika road, we need to look at IT as vision 2090 to enable us and the generation that will be there take advantage of our work/discussions: Our drivers are not products of the roads but poor training , Scandinavian countries take up to 3 years before anyone can be acclaimed as a certified driver- Create more accountable driving schools and exam system that churns out true drivers tested in driving throughout all the weather conditions There is no tracking system within the issuing authorities to verify fake licences on the spot-Create an application where all DLs can verified vide a simple SMS once issued The Insurance industry has its tails between its legs and is not using IT a s means of reducing accidents/fake claims- Create a database for all DLs and insurance policies and accident vehicles that can also be accessed seamless via SMS/Email to eliminate write offs finding their way back on our roads Our ISP have not taken advantage of the fibre optic infrastructure to roll out more creative services to increase their revenue using traffic as a tool-Install cameras on all roads and start an alert service for those willing to pay to avoid the gridlock We have lawyers on this list that would take up the court case on pro bono to force some of these line ministries to adhere to the rule of law-Wangari Maathai single handedly fought for our forests let us see one of them fight for our sanity As a previous lister once mentioned lets stop whining and take action Edward Lusega