A wonderful albeit frightening paper has been written by Kevin P. Donovan on our "afterthought" Data Privacy discussions from an Africa-wide SIM Registration initiative angle. Well worth the read to provide in-depth perception of the systemic scale of what this thread is doing kitchen-table level talk on. http://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/4351/3820 Yasin On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 10:48 AM, <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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1. Re: IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data protection/privacy law (Walubengo J)
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 07:47:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data protection/privacy law Message-ID: <987287635.2543413.1500709653702@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Spot on @Kieti. Problem now is that how do you ensure the 'seriously concerned stakeholders' do NOT abuse the data? Imagine your ID, tel-no, Date of Birth, ?or even finger-print data hanging somewhere with a 'concerned stakeholder' with no framework/laws to guide on how the stakeholder should protect/store or transmit the data (***shivers***) Hapo ndio iko shida :-) walu.
From: John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data protection/privacy law
Walu, Your observation on musking parts of the ID number removing the handled for certain types of audits is valid. My sense though is that what IEBC have released online is now sufficient to be called a register in compliance with the Elections act. It is now not mere statistics on ?the register as we were laughing off. IEBC has also been heard saying that those who want the register (including the IDs) on CD can buy it from them for 20,000/-. I believe the seriously concerned stakeholders have done so already. Best! On Jul 22, 2017 10:24, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Mulwa, This is excellent step by IEBC - but only one level.? The individual users can indeed browse the register of the anonymized voters. It is however insufficient for those interested in deeper inspections/audits e.g wanting to check if the listed ID numbers are valid, duplicates or belong to dead people.? By anonymizing data, the ability to carry out the above audit is negated. But yeah, that is a conversation beyond the list :-) walu.
From: Patrick Mulwa via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Patrick Mulwa <pmulwa2006@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data protection/privacy law
This is what I was talking about @Walubengo J.
IEBC have done it by releasing PARTIAL data of registered voters!
They have followed exactly what I was explaining and talking about earlier in this thread. On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:57 PM, John Kieti via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
KUDOS TO IEBC!.
They have finally done the right thing. The complete voter register is accessible online per polling center https://www.iebc.or.ke/iebc/? fregister
The ID number has been masked until the last three digits and that appears sufficient. We always gain more, collectively so, when everyone does the right thing.
Best!
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On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Grace Mutung'u <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi John,The scenario you describe makes a case for data protection law, because it should not be legal to have access to the IEBC register for (bulk SMS or other) business purposes.Thankfully there are guidelines against unsolicited bulk SMS from political parties and candidates.?
On 21 Jul 2017 12:43 a.m., "John Kieti via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
One thing I was shocked to learn about is that IEBC actually has my phone number. I wonder why I didn't question the field on their form requiring you to give them phone number during the BVR exercise back in 2012. But that is not nearly the main problem.? The problem is that in the last week before elections, many aspirants with unscrupulous access to IEBC's databases (for specific jurisdictions) will use the phone numbers to send campaign messages in bulk to their would be constituents. You just need to ask yourself where aspirants for party primaries in specific areas were getting your number to beg for your vote in the last hours before nomination date. Good luck with data privacy people! On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
@Eng Kariuki, Absolutely.? Once the election dust has settled we should ALL push for the Data Protection Act which I am aware has been doing rounds as a Bill in parliament since 2007. And yes, it is not lost to keen observers that the widely celebrated and recently passed Access to Information Act was pushed through as a ( P. Nyokabi's ) private member's bill ?and not government ;-) Globally, governments seem to have phobia for some of these touchy things :-) walu.
From: John Kariuki <kariuki_jn@yahoo.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data protection/privacy law
Walu,When the present debate and IEBC issues are done,let us chat about data protection legislation.You may perhaps be aware that I have been pursuing it since 2007 without success! You may also recall that Access to information Act was pulled through mainly through the efforts of Nyeri Woman Rep, Priscilla Nyokabi who had dealt with the subject before joining politics!?? John Kariuki
From: Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: kariuki_JN@yahoo.com Cc: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data protection/privacy law
@Mulwa, Partial Voter ID wont help. The major reason people (esp. political parties) want the voter register is to do analytics/audits of the same- with the presumption that the voter register is tainted.? Partial IDs would not be useful in such an exercise, eg when searching for duplicate, fake or underaged IDs. On the other hand,full disclosure exposes citizen data ?to potential data abuse. This is where the Data Protection Act would have been useful in as far as providing a framework of use. It would balance out these two conflicting requirements that protects everyones interests.? The Act would for example allow for conditional access - i.e with appropriate penalties in the event of abuse or exposure. At the moment supermarkets, banks, hospital, universities, operators, etc can abuse your private information but then...so what? walu
From: Patrick Mulwa via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Patrick Mulwa <pmulwa2006@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data protection/privacy law
Guys, the USA is facing the same issue where thousands of voters are removing themselves from state voter rolls, prompted by fears that their information will be revealed by President Donald Trump?s vote fraud commission.At least 44 of the 50 states have refused requests by the committee to hand over data. However, this is more? POLITICAL as it is seen by many as an attempt by Trump to justify why he lost the popular vote.
Maybe @IEBCKenya might consider revealing PARTIAL names, ID number, and location. I want to stress the word PARTIAL here. A good example is a bank where they present to you a few letters of your phone number or your visa/MasterCard and ask you to fill them in to verify that an account is yours.
Personally, I believe partial voter data might be the way to go here. On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Douglas Gichuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
Walubengo, Article 31 is a general principle of the constitution that while sufficient to anchor privacy as a general constitutional right does not address offer the mechanics of operationalising privacy. We need to move on a responsive ACT asap.? Regards, On Jul 20, 2017 4:45 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
I have been reliably informed that Kenya actually has a law on data protection. The super-law, the Constitution of Kenya says in article 31 as follows:
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31.?Every person has the right to privacy, which includes the right not to have?(a) their person, home or property searched;(b) their possessions seized;(c) information relating to their family or private affairs unnecessarily required or revealed; or(d) the privacy of their communications infringed.? ??
I therefore rephrase my earlier statement to claimed that we do not have a law, and say theat we do not have an "Act" on Data Protection/Privacy. Maybe IEBC can use the provisions in article 31 in the meantime. walu. From: Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS
True that Tony. But here is the news - Kenya has NO data protection law or policy. So anything flows and goes. walu.
From: Tony White via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Tony White <tony.mzungu@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS
On the other hand, I do not want **anyone** listing my name and ID number for anyone to scrape and mis-use.
Revealing personal information is **not** 'transparency' - it's a breach of data privacy!
Cheers, Tony
On 19/07/2017, Patrick Mulwa via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
wrote: We still have a long way to go with regards to Transparency @IEBCKenya
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM, John Kieti via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Found it laughable :)
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Alex K via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
[image: Inline image 1]? ? ? What an ICT lie with this IEBC to put a link for access to a register and then have STATISTICS ON REGISTERED VOTERS/? DISTRIBUTION OF REGISTERED VOTERS. It is so dishonest a move by such a Credible body especially to people in ICT.
Best Regards, Mr. Alexander M. Kamau,
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