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Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL'
by Alex Gakuru 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Thanks but this has given me another idea.We still have the problem of comparing service providers tariffs across Africa, would it OK to benchmark it against US$ airfares, fares being "commercially" sensitive to respective markets consumers ability to afford travel? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorcas Muthoni" <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> To: "Alex Gakuru" <way_forward_tech(a)yahoo.com> Cc: "Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet" <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke>; <jkrukaria(a)telkom.co.ke>; <Hkinoti(a)telkom.co.ke>; <Tasenaji(a)telkom.co.ke> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' > Hi All, > > The article was refering to how expensive Internet access is from Telkom > SA. As had been indicated, follow this link for > more:http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn20051114 062722287C918494&set_id=1 > > By visiting that link, you will actually have a feel of their speeds, > > Muthoni > > > > Alex Gakuru wrote: > > >My understanding from James Njuguna's posting was the > >reference was Telkom > >SA? > >Dorcas elaborate your thread! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "John Walubengo" <jwalubengo(a)kcct.ac.ke> > >To: <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke>; <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke> > >Cc: <jkrukaria(a)telkom.co.ke>; <Hkinoti(a)telkom.co.ke>; > ><Tasenaji(a)telkom.co.ke> > >Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:09 AM > >Subject: Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' > > > > > > > > > >>Aiih! > >> > >>Is this true or money has been poured to tarnish an > >> > >> > >otherwise good name of > >TKL? > > > > > >>any comment from Rukaria? Eng. Kinoti? Eng. Senaji? > >> > >>walu. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>>>Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> 11/14/05 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >10:52am >>> > > > > > >>'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' > >> > >>If you don't eat or stay over, you could fly to Hong > >> > >> > >Kong and download > > > > > >>100 gigabytes of data from the Internet, fly back to > >> > >> > >South Africa and > > > > > >>pay less than if you were to download that amount of > >> > >> > >information using > > > > > >>Telkom's ADSL service. > >> > >>Even taking into account the duration of the return > >> > >> > >flight, you could be > > > > > >>back in South Africa days before you could complete > >> > >> > >the download here. > > > > > >>This is according to Durban software developer > >> > >> > >Stuart Gunter, who has > > > > > >>posted on an Internet forum the findings of an > >> > >> > >investigation that show > > > > > >>just how internationally uncompetitive Telkom's ADSL > >> > >> > >service is compared > > > > > >>to the rest of the world. > >> > >>For the rest of the story visit: > >> > >> > >> > >http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn200511140627 22287C918494&set_id=1 > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>kictanet mailing list > >>kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > >>http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

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Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL'
by Alex Gakuru 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

My understanding from James Njuguna's posting was the reference was Telkom SA? Dorcas elaborate your thread! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walubengo" <jwalubengo(a)kcct.ac.ke> To: <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke>; <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke> Cc: <jkrukaria(a)telkom.co.ke>; <Hkinoti(a)telkom.co.ke>; <Tasenaji(a)telkom.co.ke> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' > Aiih! > > Is this true or money has been poured to tarnish an otherwise good name of TKL? > > any comment from Rukaria? Eng. Kinoti? Eng. Senaji? > > walu. > > > >>> Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> 11/14/05 10:52am >>> > 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' > > If you don't eat or stay over, you could fly to Hong Kong and download > 100 gigabytes of data from the Internet, fly back to South Africa and > pay less than if you were to download that amount of information using > Telkom's ADSL service. > > Even taking into account the duration of the return flight, you could be > back in South Africa days before you could complete the download here. > > This is according to Durban software developer Stuart Gunter, who has > posted on an Internet forum the findings of an investigation that show > just how internationally uncompetitive Telkom's ADSL service is compared > to the rest of the world. > > For the rest of the story visit: > http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn200511140627… > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Kictanet] A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap betweenthe Information Society and Sustainable Development.
by Alex Gakuru 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Wainaina, Care to call me on 2732311-2. Thanks Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org> To: <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: [Kictanet] A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap betweenthe Information Society and Sustainable Development. > A new book of interest to Kenyans. > > ========================== > TITLE: A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap between the Information Society and Sustainable Development. > > AUTHORS: Terri Willard, Maja Andjelkovic, Steve Vosloo, Wainaina Mungai, Margarita Salas, Anusha Lall, Atanu Garai, Diogo André de Assumpção, Amira Sobeih, > > Source: http://www.iisd.org/publications/pub.aspx?pno=740 > > In "A Developing Connection," seven young researchers from six countries look at the emerging relationship between sustainable development and the information society. The potential of information and communications technology to contribute to a more sustainable world is limitless. The challenge is to bring the policy communities together and help them understand the links. In this volume, some important challenges are outlined-and some important examples of success are highlighted. > > > Download for free * English (3,279 kb) - http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2005/networks_dev_connection.pdf > > Description: Book, 220 pages > > Copyright: IISD 2005 > > > > --- > Wainaina Mungai > http://www.madeinkenya.org > > SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

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'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL'
by Dorcas Muthoni 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' If you don't eat or stay over, you could fly to Hong Kong and download 100 gigabytes of data from the Internet, fly back to South Africa and pay less than if you were to download that amount of information using Telkom's ADSL service. Even taking into account the duration of the return flight, you could be back in South Africa days before you could complete the download here. This is according to Durban software developer Stuart Gunter, who has posted on an Internet forum the findings of an investigation that show just how internationally uncompetitive Telkom's ADSL service is compared to the rest of the world. For the rest of the story visit: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn200511140627…

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Fwd: Re: [Kictanet] Desired Structure Summary
by alice＠apc.org 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Hi All Just a reminder that Ben Sihanya had begun some preliminary work on KICTANet registration/structure. Something to help continue our discussions regarding registration of the network thanks alice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <innovativelawyer(a)wananchi.com> > To: "Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet" <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:34 PM > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Kictanet] Desired Structure Summary > > >> Replying on the difference between a trust and a foundation and without >> prejudice. >> >> Please find attached. >> >> Regards. >> >> Ben Sihanya >> >> Grace M. >> ICT Programme- IL >> >> Angela W >> ICT Programme- IL >> >> Hi All, >>> >>> Here are my views and some of KIF's views. >>> >>> 1. I think membership should be restricted to legal >>> organisations(entities)and not individuals. >>> >>> 2. There should be some norminal registration fee, but >>> more importantly, we should come up with a membership >>> charter that spells out values and privileges etc.. >>> >>> 3. I suggest that we should expand the mission to >>> include WORKING TOGEHTER TO ACHIEVE THE VSIION IN THE >>> ICT POLICY >>> >>> 4. Can Ben siyahanya or any other lawyer explain to us >>> what the difference between a trust and a foundation >>> is. >>> >>> Speaking for KIF, we are all for KICTANET and as you >>> all know, we will continue leading the ICT convention. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Charles Nduati >>> --- Florence Etta <Fetta(a)idrc.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >Not sure if the first email I sent out as Alias got >>>> sent out but here it >>>> >is again. >>>> >In this email I will try to summarize the picture >>>> that emerged by the end >>>> >of last week's discussion on the desired structure >>>> for KICTANet. >>>> > >>>> >We seem to have suggestions as follows: >>>> > >>>> >1Mission: " Working together" (Waudo) >>>> > >>>> >2 Objectives: As suggested (Florence,Alice and >>>> Nkuuhe) >>>> > >>>> >3 Organisational type: Foundation/Trust (Brian) >>>> > >>>> >4 Name of Trust/Foundation: Trust (for) >>>> KICTANet/KICTANet >>>> >Foundation/KICTANet Trust >>>> > >>>> >5 Trustess?? 5-7 Organisations with clout and >>>> respect in Kenya >>>> > >>>> >6 Organisational Plan: Lean (Rigia, Harry, Mucheru) >>>> small secretariat say >>>> >3-person at any one time? Volunteers? Interns? >>>> > >>>> >7 Activities/Workplan As agreed at July 29th >>>> meeting? Others? >>>> > >>>> >We need to agree about the membership as well as >>>> membership >>>> >managemnet/plan. So for the rest of this week it >>>> would be good to respond >>>> >to these two issues. >>>> > >>>> >Specifically >>>> >1) who would you say qualifies for membership in >>>> this network? and >>>> > >>>> >2) how can membership be qualified or when does a >>>> member fail to be a member? >>>> > >>>> >This discussion will last only to the end of this >>>> week. >>>> > >>>> >Thanks and cheers, >>>> > >>>> >FE >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >To help you stay safe and secure online, we've >>>> developed the all new >>>> >>>><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/security_centre/*http://uk.…>Yahoo! >>>> >>>> >Security Centre. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >>>> http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>> >>> >>> CHARLES N. NDUATI >>> EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR >>> KENYA ICT FEDERATION (ICT BOARD OF KENYA PRIVATE SECTOR ALLIANCE) >>> 11th FLOOR, BRUCE HOUSE, KAUNDA STREET >>> P. O. BOX 79324-00200 >>> NAIROBI KENYA >>> TEL: 254020-317996/251438/253847 >>> FAX: 254020-221091 >>> MOBILE:254-722728815 >>> EMIAL:[email protected] >>> OFFICE EMAIL:[email protected] >>> www.kif.or.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with >>> voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >>> http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >> http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >

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Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL'
by John Walubengo 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Aiih! Is this true or money has been poured to tarnish an otherwise good name of TKL? any comment from Rukaria? Eng. Kinoti? Eng. Senaji? walu. >>> Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> 11/14/05 10:52am >>> 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' If you don't eat or stay over, you could fly to Hong Kong and download 100 gigabytes of data from the Internet, fly back to South Africa and pay less than if you were to download that amount of information using Telkom's ADSL service. Even taking into account the duration of the return flight, you could be back in South Africa days before you could complete the download here. This is according to Durban software developer Stuart Gunter, who has posted on an Internet forum the findings of an investigation that show just how internationally uncompetitive Telkom's ADSL service is compared to the rest of the world. For the rest of the story visit: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn200511140627…

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Re: [Kictanet] A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap betweenthe Information Society and Susta
by John Walubengo 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Wainaina, might u have the .pdf? My internet download speeds are hopelessly frustrating my download. walu. >>> "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org> 11/12/05 06:18pm >>> A new book of interest to Kenyans. ========================== TITLE: A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap between the Information Society and Sustainable Development. AUTHORS: Terri Willard, Maja Andjelkovic, Steve Vosloo, Wainaina Mungai, Margarita Salas, Anusha Lall, Atanu Garai, Diogo André de Assumpção, Amira Sobeih, Source: http://www.iisd.org/publications/pub.aspx?pno=740 In "A Developing Connection," seven young researchers from six countries look at the emerging relationship between sustainable development and the information society. The potential of information and communications technology to contribute to a more sustainable world is limitless. The challenge is to bring the policy communities together and help them understand the links. In this volume, some important challenges are outlined*and some important examples of success are highlighted. Download for free * English (3,279 kb) - http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2005/networks_dev_connection.pdf Description: Book, 220 pages Copyright: IISD 2005 --- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Re: Nominating Committee Announces Final Selections for Key LeadershipPositions within ICANN
by John Walubengo 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Congrats {yet again ;-)} to both Alice and Njeri, Looks like the sky is truly not a limit.... walu. >>> "waudo siganga" <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> 11/13/05 01:14pm >>> Congratulations Njeri, Wanjira. This is a big honor but also much hard work ahead. I was with George Sadowsky, Chair NOMMCOM, and Marylyn Cade on the same flight yesterday and they did not break the good news until I saw your mail this morning. Best wishes. Waudo Siganga At WSIS Tunis On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:17:01 +0300, alice(a)apc.org said: > FYI. > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Nominating Committee Announces Final Selections for Key Leadership > >> Positions within ICANN > >> > >> http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-04nov05.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> 4 November 2005 > >> > >> After a thorough period of outreach, consultation, recruitment, and > >> evaluation, the Nominating Committee (NomCom) of the Internet Corporation > >> for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) announced today its final > >> selection of four 'slates' of Nominees for four of ICANN's leadership > >> bodies: the Board of Directors, the Council of the Country Code Names > >> Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Council of the Generic Names > >> Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Interim At Large Advisory > >> Committee (ALAC). The Nominees will join the already seated members of > >> these bodies on 4 December 2005 at the conclusion of the Annual General > >> Meeting of the ICANN in Vancouver, Canada. > >> > >> ICANN is a not-for--profit organization responsible for coordinating the > >> global Internet's systems of unique identifiers, including the systems of > >> domain names and numeric addresses that are used to reach all computers > >> on the Internet. ICANN's mission is to ensure the stable and secure > >> operation of these unique identifier systems, which are vital to the > >> Internet's operation. In addition, ICANN coordinates policy development > >> related to these technical functions. > >> > >> "We are pleased that excellent candidates from all five geographic > >> regions participated in this third NomCom process," said Nominating > >> Committee Chair and spokesperson George Sadowsky. "Such participation > >> reflects the Internet community's considerable reserve of talent, > >> experience, and willingness to undertake these volunteer leadership roles > >> essential to ICANN's evolution and continued technical coordination on > >> behalf of the entire global Internet user community." > >> In response to its Formal Call of 22 April 2005, the NomCom received 72 > >> Statements of Interest and selected 8 outstanding individuals for > >> staggered terms in these leadership roles in ICANN. The terms range from > >> twenty-four to thirty-six months in length. Two individuals were selected > >> to serve on the Board of Directors; three individuals were selected to > >> fill seats designated for individuals from the Latin America, Asia > >> Pacific and African regions on the Interim At-Large Advisory Committee > >> (which coordinates participation by individual Internet users in ICANN's > >> activities); one individual was selected for the Council of the Country > >> Code Names Supporting Organization (which administers and coordinates the > >> affairs of the ccNSO and manages the policy development process of the > >> ccNSO); and two individuals were selected for the Council of the Generic > >> Names Supporting Organization (which develops policy concerning domain > >> names in generic top-level domains such as .com, .net, .org, .info, and > >> .biz). > >> > >> The NomCom was asked to find high-caliber, experienced, open-minded men > >> and women with integrity, sound judgment, and objectivity. "The committee > >> focused on the careful selection of slates of candidates whose skills and > >> perspectives complemented each other and who fulfilled the ICANN criteria > >> and eligibility requirements for each of the four roles to be filled, > >> keeping all the candidates under consideration until the final slates > >> were chosen," Sadowsky explained. > >> > >> Through these strategies the NomCom pursued its dual charge: to balance > >> the ICANN leadership selection processes which are based on Supporting > >> Organizations and Constituencies and to help ensure that ICANN can > >> benefit from the leadership of the men and women of the highest integrity > >> and capability who place the interest of the global Internet community > >> ahead of any particular interests. These carefully selected slates will > >> help ICANN ensure functional, cultural, and geographic diversity in its > >> policy development and decision-making as the Internet itself evolves. > >> > >> The Nominating Committee: > >> > >> An independent Nominating Committee is a key element of the ICANN > >> structure. It is composed of a diverse set of individuals chosen by the > >> groups and entities that make up ICANN. The NomCom is charged to act in > >> the interests of the global Internet community rather than in accord with > >> specific interests. On a long term basis, the committee is presently > >> responsible for selecting 8 of 15 Board Directors, 5 of 15 Interim ALAC > >> Members, 3 of 18 ccNSO Council Members and 3 of 15 GNSO Council Members. > >> In the current process, 8 of these positions needed to be filled. > >> > >> For more information about the Nominating Committee, its members, the > >> formal call for statements of interest and its procedures, please visit > >> its web page at http://www.icann.org/committees/nom-comm/. Further > >> questions or requests for information can be sent via e-mail to > >> nomcom-coordinator(a)icann.org. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > --- > Submitted by: alice(a)apc.org 2005-11-12 11:22:28 EST5 > (Please reply to original submitter for private communication) > --- > You are currently subscribed to kiplist-cl as: [emailsignet(a)mailcan.com] > To unsubscribe, forward this message to > %%email.unsub%% -- waudo siganga emailsignet(a)mailcan.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html --- Submitted by: Waudo Siganga - (Int. address) <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> 2005-11-13 05:20:08 EST5 (Please reply to original submitter for private communication) --- You are currently subscribed to kiplist-cl as: [jwalubengo(a)kcct.ac.ke] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-kiplist-cl-102682Q(a)lyris.idrc.ca

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A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap between the Information Society and Sustainable Development.
by Wainaina Mungai 12 Nov '05

12 Nov '05

A new book of interest to Kenyans. ========================== TITLE: A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap between the Information Society and Sustainable Development. AUTHORS: Terri Willard, Maja Andjelkovic, Steve Vosloo, Wainaina Mungai, Margarita Salas, Anusha Lall, Atanu Garai, Diogo André de Assumpção, Amira Sobeih, Source: http://www.iisd.org/publications/pub.aspx?pno=740 In "A Developing Connection," seven young researchers from six countries look at the emerging relationship between sustainable development and the information society. The potential of information and communications technology to contribute to a more sustainable world is limitless. The challenge is to bring the policy communities together and help them understand the links. In this volume, some important challenges are outlinedand some important examples of success are highlighted. Download for free * English (3,279 kb) - http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2005/networks_dev_connection.pdf Description: Book, 220 pages Copyright: IISD 2005 --- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.

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Technologies MUST be made safe for Children - No excuses
by Alex Gakuru 12 Nov '05

12 Nov '05

FYI, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nava Gilad (by way of Terry Weigler<tweigler(a)isoc.org>)" <gilad_n(a)netvision.net.il> To: <chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: [Chapter-delegates] The Internet Pavilion at WSIS in Tunis > Dear David McAuley and Terry Weigler, > Thank you for the invitation to visit the Internet Pavilion at WSIS-Tunis > which I gladly accept. > ISOC-IL President, Dr. Amir Etziony and myself are members of the Israeli > delegation to WSIS-Tunis and will be leading the panel discussion on > "Safer Internet for Children" on Nov. 16th 12:00-13:30 at ICT4All > Exhibition, Conference room Expo6 , the second event which I chair is on > "e-Inclusion and bridging the digital divide in Israel" , where Dr. Etziony > will present ISOC-IL Task Groups established for that purpose , on Nov. > 15th 12:00-13:30 at ICT4All Exhibition, Conference room Expo4 > For Further details please visit: > www.isoc.org.il/wsis > > It would be greatly appreciated if you could send again our invitation to > all Chapter delegates so those who come to WSIS-Tunis can attend our side > events and the ISRAEL Pavilion which exhibits various aspects of the > information society: eCulture, eLearning, eGovernment, eInclusion and more . > > Looking forwards to meet many Chapter members in Tunis, > > > Nava > > > Nava Gilad > e-Inclusion Consultant, > Israel Internet Association (ISOC-IL) > www.isoc.org.il > nava(a)isoc.org.il > 972-505-875404 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org > http://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

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