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MPesa goes global
by robert yawe 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

https://www.skrill.com/en/personal/send-money-to-kenya/?utm_source=newslett… Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Fw: Quality of VoIP in Africa - Tracing IP packets from the USA into Africa
by Matunda Nyanchama 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

----- Forwarded Message ----- From: ICT Africa <info(a)ictafrica.info> To: mnyanchama(a)aganoconsulting.com Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:16 AM Subject: Quality of VoIP in Africa - Tracing IP packets from the USA into Africa December 8, 2013 Quality of VoIP in Africa - Tracing IP packets from the USA into Africa Africans, whether living in Africa or in the Diaspora, have explored many Voice-over-Internet Protocol (VoIP) services to beat the high cost of communicating with their loved ones. Viber, Skype, Vonage, MagicJack and Rebtel, are some of the services that are commonly used. Rebtel is a more recent and not well known service offering voice calls for as low as 4c a minute from the USA to Africa. Read more... South Africa ICT Industry Honors Mandela The ICT industry has expressed its condolences on the death of former president Nelson Mandela, as South Africans - and the world at large - mourn the loss of an icon of justice, peace and democracy; and celebrate his life. Read more... Developing Countries Face Challenges in Cloud Computing Information Economy Report 2013 finds that infrastructure investment and law reforms are needed to harvest cloud's data efficiency and flexibility. There is nothing nebulous about the "cloud", especially as it applies to developing countries, a new UNCTAD report says. Read more... The Need for Ethical Hackers and Whistle-Blowers in Africa Edward Snowden, Chelsea (Bradley) Manning, Baba Jukwa (Zimbabwe) and Julian Assange have all attained legendary status amongst citizens' rights advocates. They have exposed the extent that modern government has, under the aegis of security and intelligence gathering, encroached into all of our lives. This blanket surveillance of the citizenry, on a previously unimaginable scale, is the current manifestation of Orwell's 1984 Big Brother. Read more... MACRA Commissions Television White Spaces Pilot Project The Minister of Information and Civic Education, Brown Mpinganjira has called on information and communications technology (ICT) players in the country to join hands with government in ensuring that the rural masses have access to internet services.Read more... Dimension Data's Andile Ngcaba Named to Global Internet Governance Panel Andile Ngcaba, founder of Convergence Partners, and Executive Chairman of Dimension Data Middle East and Africa, has been named to an international panel on the Future of Global Internet Cooperation, to address the issue of Internet governance. The panel will meet for the first time in December in London, and its report, which will include principles for global Internet cooperation, a proposed framework for such cooperation, stakeholder relations, and a roadmap for future Internet governance, is expected to be released for comment in early 2014. Read more... Upcoming ICT Events in Africa 2013 Africa-EU Cooperation Forum on ICT The '2013 Africa-EU Cooperation Forum on ICT' is taking place on December 2-3, 2013 at the African Union Conference Centre (AUCC) and Office Complex in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. International Conference on ICT and Development A gathering of information security specialists Featured Jobs Technical Consultant - Microsoft Dynamics AX - Nairobi, Kenya Business Development Executive - Accra, Ghana Product Manage - Accra Ghana Counsellors & Training Co-coordinators (3 Persons) - Lagos, Nigeria PHP Developer - Western Cape, South Africa Senior VB Programmer/Developer - Gauteng, South Africa Senior Java Developer- Midrand - up to R750k - Midrand, South Africa Mobile Developer - Kwazulu - Natal, South Africa Please visit the Job Page to search these and many other positions Don't miss any important ICT information or events in Africa Register for our weekly newsletter for updates Stay Connected Forward this email This email was sent to mnyanchama(a)aganoconsulting.com by info(a)ictafrica.info | Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe™ | Privacy Policy. ICT Africa| 1073 Sing Sing Road| Horseheads| NY| 14845

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The need for ethical hackers and whistle blowers in Africa
by Ali Hussein 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

Listers In the era of Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, Aaron Swartz, Jeremy Hammond and Julian Assange, Glenn Ashton, a South African Civil Society writer and researcher wrote an article that is worth a read from all of us. The issue of personal freedoms, the right to information and the contradictions of National Security are as old as the Roman Empire. The Roman poet Juvenal once asked "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes," which translated loosely as "who will watch the watchers themselves?" Read on and be vigilant on what governments do in the interest of National Security. http://www.ictafrica.info/FullNews.php?id=11822 Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad

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Honoring Africa's Hero and Giant Iconic Leader Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela
by Gideon 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

*Honoring Africa's Hero and Giant Iconic Leader Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela* http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs123/1102516344150/archive/111589382686… Kindest Regards, DotConnectAfrica

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Honoring Africa's Hero and Giant Iconic Leader Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela
by Gideon 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

* Rest in PeaceMadiba Honoring Africa's Hero and Giant Iconic Leader Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela DotConnectAfrica Trust takes this opportunity to celebrate and honor the Giant Iconic Leader of Africa:Courageous, Selfless and Noble. * *The children of Africa indeed, the entire World mourn and honor the man who truly exemplified the need for hard work and sacrifice even when times were very hard, the comforting proof that good triumphs over evil. That Love wins over Hate. That Togetherness wins over Division. * *Mandela spent 27 years in prison on Robben Island, fighting over stereotypes and seeking t**o restore equality in humanity. Africa * *celebrates the lessons of a man who kept his word. Governed for one term and stepped down when his nation * *needed him most just to ensure that his promise was sacrosanct.* *His inspiring words continue to remain in our hearts "I am fundamentally an optimist. Whether that comes from nature or nurture, I cannot say. Part of being optimistic is keeping one's head pointed to**ward the sun, one's feet moving forward. There were many dark moments when my faith in humanity was sorely tested, but I would not and could not give myself up to despair. That way lays defeat and death." - Long Walk to Freedom: The Autobiography of Nelson Mandela * * <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001SayA7NlcK9TbPNNwwS6zOVNgln9505VwEGlz_Gq5J8O3…>* *Mandela fought for justice, freedom, democracy and equality. He sacrificed to ensure that all voices are audible; he believed in change that affects all levels of living "As I have said, the first thing is to be honest with yourself. You can never have an impact on society if you have not changed yourself... Great peacemakers are all people of integrity, of honesty, but humility." - Nelson Mandela . DotConnectAfrica is inspired by such sacrifices to see that Africa can promote justice, transparency and fairness in all facets of its economy. * *DotConnectAfrica feels one in spirit with Mandela. We began a campaign over six years ago that will help bridge the 'Digital Divide' whistlt inspiring present and future generations of Africans. We have learnt that inspiring the youth and giving them a chance to initiate and realize their dreams creates the collective vision and future that we seek for Africa, the continent of opportunities the land that gave Mandela to the world. * *Even as we bid farewell to Africa's Icon, we will always remember to keep working smart and hard and diligently till we deliver our pledges to the continent. We see every challenge that we struggle to overcome as an opportunity; a test of mettle and determination that serves to make us stronger, more unrelenting and more committed. We shall** rise and rise every time because our passion for the continent beats the challenges.* * "When the history of our times is written, will we be remembered as the generation that turned our backs in a moment of global crisis or will it be recorded that we did the right thing?" -** Nelson Mandela in Tromso, Norway, **2005 * *Africa is rising, as we celebrate Nelson Mandela, let us keep his legacy alive by following in his footsteps and exampl*e. * Your Sincerely,* *For: DotConnectAfrica Trust* *[image: DotAfrica logo with no labels]* * Sbekele * * Ms. Sophia Bekele * *Executive Director* ________________________________________________________________ *About DotConnectAfrica * *DotConnectAfrica Trust is an independent, non-profit and non-partisan organization that is based in Port Louis, Mauritius (Reg ID CT8710DCA90) with its registry operations located in Nairobi, Kenya. Its main charitable objects are: (a) for the advancement of education in information technology to the African society; and (b) in connection with (a) to provide the African society with a continental Internet domain name to have access to Internet services for the people of Africa as a purpose beneficial to the public in general. * *DotConnectAfrica through its affiliate DCA Registry Services Ltd.intends to channel surplus resources gained from the .Africa registry operation to sponsor foundations that will cater to various charitable projects including the already launched miss.africa and generation.africa, as well as capacity building for African ccTLDs, with the general objective of improving the African Internet and business landscape.*

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Laying fiber alongside Roads / Buildings under construction should be compulsory - in Africa!
by Bob Omondi 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

Dear Listers, This is a subject that really troubles me. Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya. But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this is a mistake that can be stopped! What needs to be done to change this? Regards Bob.

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Nelson Mandela
by Lkimani 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

My favorite Madiba quote: Conviction is contagious, never underestimate the Power of persistence" ....Nelson Madiba Mandela RIP Tata Madiba you were and still are an an inspiration to us. We will truly miss you! Lucy Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Michael Elliott, ONE.org" <one-help(a)list.one.org> > Date: December 6, 2013, 7:16:00 AM GMT+03:00 > To: "Lucy Kimani" <lkimani(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Nelson Mandela > Reply-To: "Michael Elliott, ONE.org" <one-help(a)list.one.org> > > > > 'Sometimes, it falls upon a generation to be great.' > Pay tribute to Nelson Mandela and share his powerful words today. > > > Dear Lucy, > > Nelson Mandela's unwavering courage, forgiveness and hope touched and inspired people all around the world. He showed that the dream of a just society is possible and he challenged our generation to lead the way towards it. > > As Mandela said in his extraordinary 2005 speech in London's Trafalgar Square, 'Like slavery and apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can be overcome and eradicated by the actions of human beings.' > > And he ended his speech with a call that moves us still. > > 'Sometimes,' Mandela said, 'it falls upon a generation to be great. You can be that great generation. Let your greatness blossom.' > > One way to honor Nelson Mandela's memory is to share those words to prove every day that this generation can be the great one that ends extreme poverty. > > > Share his words now. > > > Michael Elliott > President and CEO, ONE > > > JOIN US. ONE.ORG | PRIVACY | UNSUBSCRIBE > SPREAD THE WORD > > > This email was sent by ONE.org to lkimani(a)yahoo.com. > Add one-help(a)list.one.org to your address book to ensure our emails reach your inbox. > > Copyright © 2013 ONE, All rights reserved. > > Our mailing address is: > ONE Campaign > 1400 Eye Street NW, Suite 600 > Washington, DC > 20005 >

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Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela
by Edwin Onchari 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

+1 For him to be able to forgive a government and a people that denied him a chance to even attend his children's burials while in jail!! he had to be truly special. I hope our leaders are able to let go of their fears; work with their 'enemies' and help build Kenya...RIP Madiba; you were one of a kind Kind regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:55 PM To: Edwin Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 50 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Nelson Mandela (Walubengo J) 2. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security (Dennis Kioko) 3. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security (ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 01:22:09 -0800 (PST) From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> To: Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan(a)me.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela Message-ID: <1386321729.14872.YahooMailBasic(a)web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Not ICT related but allow me to also salute the African Icon Mandela. One thing he did very differently from an African perspective, is to leave office when he was still needed => good succession planning => good legacy. This is the most difficult lesson for our African leaders. #RIPNelsonMandela. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/6/13, Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan(a)me.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 12:08 PM +1 RIP NRM -- you have inscribed yourself into TIME and HUMANITY. Eric here On 6 Dec 2013, at 09:44, Lkimani <lkimani(a)yahoo.com> wrote: My favorite Madiba quote: Conviction is contagious,?never underestimate thePower of persistence" ? ? ? ? ....Nelson Madiba Mandela RIP Tata Madiba you were and still are an an inspirationto us. ?We will truly miss you! Lucy Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: "Michael Elliott, ONE.org" <one-help(a)list.one.org> Date: December 6, 2013, 7:16:00 AM GMT+03:00 To: "Lucy Kimani" <lkimani(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Nelson Mandela Reply-To: "Michael Elliott, ONE.org" <one-help(a)list.one.org> Blank Email 'Sometimes, it falls upon a generation to be great.' Pay tribute to Nelson Mandela and share his powerful words today. ? Dear Lucy, Nelson Mandela's unwavering courage, forgiveness and hope touched and inspired people all around the world. He showed that the dream of a just society is possible and he challenged our generation to lead the way towards it. As Mandela said in his extraordinary 2005 speech in London's Trafalgar Square, 'Like slavery and apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can be overcome and eradicated by the actions of human beings.' And he ended his speech with a call that moves us still. 'Sometimes,' Mandela said, 'it falls upon a generation to be great. You can be that great generation. Let your greatness blossom.' One way to honor Nelson Mandela's memory is to share those words to prove every day that this generation can be the great one that ends extreme poverty. Share his words now. Michael Elliott President and CEO, ONE ? JOIN US. ONE.ORG?|?PRIVACY?|?UNSUBSCRIBE SPREAD THE WORD ? ? This email was sent by ONE.org to lkimani(a)yahoo.com. Add one-help(a)list.one.org to your address book to ensure our emails reach your inbox. Copyright ? 2013 ONE, All rights reserved. Our mailing address is: ONE Campaign 1400 Eye Street NW, Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005 ? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ericosiakwan%40me.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. Eric M.K Osiakwan+233244386792?"Accraboy" 4 Skype@eosiakwan 4 Twitter ?about.me/ericosiakwan? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:17:18 +0300 From: "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security Message-ID: <1386322434307.5d950364@CloudMagic> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20131206/daf69f 1f/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 09:49:50 +0000 From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>, "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security Message-ID: <648232868-1386323389-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588793321-@b 16.c1.bise7.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Walu, Say it louder! We need substantial objectivity on some of these matters. John Kariuki. Sent from my BlackBerry? -----Original Message----- From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 00:19:47 To: <ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security @Ali, your comments sound like ITU-WCIT debate Reloaded :-) Let me be cheeky abit. If SPAM can ONLY be tackled by technology - why hasn't it been tackled? Indeed the technology that could kill spam (e.g. PKI deployment at IP, SMTP, DNS-SEC, etc- apologies for the Tech jargon) has been with us for over 10years...how come spam refused to die? Dont get me wrong, I am still civil-society biased. It is just that I get worried when solutions to complex problems are straight-jacketed into one block (tech, political, legal or otherwise). I think the solutions do not lie on ONE of the above, but all of the above. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/6/13, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 10:59 AM Walu I'm of the opinion that Spam is an issue tackled best by technology NOT legislation... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ?~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: @Ndemo, The fact that the raccoon (google says this is some animal in the US :-) did manage to flood your email with spam is a confirmation that we do need the cyber-laws even in Africa :-) Anyway, whereas I agree with most of your article I had a comment on this one paragraph : The industry sometimes lies with statistics that in most cases do not make any sense. Gullible nations are spending a fortune on cyber security. Even countries with less than one per cent Internet penetration are talking about cyber security. << I was of the opinion that countries with fewer machines online SHOULD be talking loudest about Cybersecurity simply because we live in a connected world. Most IT-savvy cyber-criminals ?based in developed economies hijack the few ?"3rd-world" (forgive the use of word) networks/computers to launch attacks in other jurisdictions. Unless there are laws/frameworks compelling corrective action most of these local networks will forever remain vulnerable. However, it also true is that some autocratic/non-democratic governments are going to ride this cyber-security bandwagon for the sake of adding more repression to their citizenry. The civil-society (recently baptized as evil-society :-) must forever be watchful. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/6/13, Bitange Ndemo <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 8:12 AM Hussein, Some raccoon decided to clog my e-mail with spam as punishment because of the article.? I am not opposed to cyber security but some people (and you remember Dubai) want to use cyber security as a basis for stifling internet freedom. Ndemo. Grace Thanks for sharing. We indeed must tread carefully. There is definitely a case for a regulatory framework. This must however be tampered with the understanding that too much regulation will throttle the industry. It is a fine balance that we must maintain. *Ali Hussein* Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com>wrote: n Kenya, we have done extremely well in the adoption of ICTs. This is a field that requires a lot of creativity, but we may just end up killing that creativity with too many rules and regulations in trying to counter computer crime sometimes referred to as cybercrime or netcrime. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/We-must-tread-carefu lly-on-cyber-security/-/539548/2098892/-/item/0/-/12mo495/-/index.html _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. Business School University of Nairobi Lower Kabete Campus _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela
by Edwin Onchari 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

+1 For him to be able to forgive a government and a people that denied him a chance to even attend his children's burials while in jail!! he had to be truly special. I hope our leaders are able to let go of their fears; work with their 'enemies' and help build Kenya...RIP Madiba; you were one of a kind Kind regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:55 PM To: Edwin Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 50 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Nelson Mandela (Walubengo J) 2. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security (Dennis Kioko) 3. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security (ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 01:22:09 -0800 (PST) From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> To: Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan(a)me.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela Message-ID: <1386321729.14872.YahooMailBasic(a)web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Not ICT related but allow me to also salute the African Icon Mandela. One thing he did very differently from an African perspective, is to leave office when he was still needed => good succession planning => good legacy. This is the most difficult lesson for our African leaders. #RIPNelsonMandela. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/6/13, Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan(a)me.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 12:08 PM +1 RIP NRM -- you have inscribed yourself into TIME and HUMANITY. Eric here On 6 Dec 2013, at 09:44, Lkimani <lkimani(a)yahoo.com> wrote: My favorite Madiba quote: Conviction is contagious,?never underestimate thePower of persistence" ? ? ? ? ....Nelson Madiba Mandela RIP Tata Madiba you were and still are an an inspirationto us. ?We will truly miss you! Lucy Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: "Michael Elliott, ONE.org" <one-help(a)list.one.org> Date: December 6, 2013, 7:16:00 AM GMT+03:00 To: "Lucy Kimani" <lkimani(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Nelson Mandela Reply-To: "Michael Elliott, ONE.org" <one-help(a)list.one.org> Blank Email 'Sometimes, it falls upon a generation to be great.' Pay tribute to Nelson Mandela and share his powerful words today. ? Dear Lucy, Nelson Mandela's unwavering courage, forgiveness and hope touched and inspired people all around the world. He showed that the dream of a just society is possible and he challenged our generation to lead the way towards it. As Mandela said in his extraordinary 2005 speech in London's Trafalgar Square, 'Like slavery and apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can be overcome and eradicated by the actions of human beings.' And he ended his speech with a call that moves us still. 'Sometimes,' Mandela said, 'it falls upon a generation to be great. You can be that great generation. Let your greatness blossom.' One way to honor Nelson Mandela's memory is to share those words to prove every day that this generation can be the great one that ends extreme poverty. Share his words now. Michael Elliott President and CEO, ONE ? JOIN US. ONE.ORG?|?PRIVACY?|?UNSUBSCRIBE SPREAD THE WORD ? ? This email was sent by ONE.org to lkimani(a)yahoo.com. Add one-help(a)list.one.org to your address book to ensure our emails reach your inbox. Copyright ? 2013 ONE, All rights reserved. Our mailing address is: ONE Campaign 1400 Eye Street NW, Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005 ? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ericosiakwan%40me.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. Eric M.K Osiakwan+233244386792?"Accraboy" 4 Skype@eosiakwan 4 Twitter ?about.me/ericosiakwan? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:17:18 +0300 From: "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security Message-ID: <1386322434307.5d950364@CloudMagic> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20131206/daf69f 1f/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 09:49:50 +0000 From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>, "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security Message-ID: <648232868-1386323389-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588793321-@b 16.c1.bise7.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Walu, Say it louder! We need substantial objectivity on some of these matters. John Kariuki. Sent from my BlackBerry? -----Original Message----- From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 00:19:47 To: <ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security @Ali, your comments sound like ITU-WCIT debate Reloaded :-) Let me be cheeky abit. If SPAM can ONLY be tackled by technology - why hasn't it been tackled? Indeed the technology that could kill spam (e.g. PKI deployment at IP, SMTP, DNS-SEC, etc- apologies for the Tech jargon) has been with us for over 10years...how come spam refused to die? Dont get me wrong, I am still civil-society biased. It is just that I get worried when solutions to complex problems are straight-jacketed into one block (tech, political, legal or otherwise). I think the solutions do not lie on ONE of the above, but all of the above. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/6/13, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 10:59 AM Walu I'm of the opinion that Spam is an issue tackled best by technology NOT legislation... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ?~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: @Ndemo, The fact that the raccoon (google says this is some animal in the US :-) did manage to flood your email with spam is a confirmation that we do need the cyber-laws even in Africa :-) Anyway, whereas I agree with most of your article I had a comment on this one paragraph : The industry sometimes lies with statistics that in most cases do not make any sense. Gullible nations are spending a fortune on cyber security. Even countries with less than one per cent Internet penetration are talking about cyber security. << I was of the opinion that countries with fewer machines online SHOULD be talking loudest about Cybersecurity simply because we live in a connected world. Most IT-savvy cyber-criminals ?based in developed economies hijack the few ?"3rd-world" (forgive the use of word) networks/computers to launch attacks in other jurisdictions. Unless there are laws/frameworks compelling corrective action most of these local networks will forever remain vulnerable. However, it also true is that some autocratic/non-democratic governments are going to ride this cyber-security bandwagon for the sake of adding more repression to their citizenry. The civil-society (recently baptized as evil-society :-) must forever be watchful. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/6/13, Bitange Ndemo <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 8:12 AM Hussein, Some raccoon decided to clog my e-mail with spam as punishment because of the article.? I am not opposed to cyber security but some people (and you remember Dubai) want to use cyber security as a basis for stifling internet freedom. Ndemo. Grace Thanks for sharing. We indeed must tread carefully. There is definitely a case for a regulatory framework. This must however be tampered with the understanding that too much regulation will throttle the industry. It is a fine balance that we must maintain. *Ali Hussein* Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com>wrote: n Kenya, we have done extremely well in the adoption of ICTs. This is a field that requires a lot of creativity, but we may just end up killing that creativity with too many rules and regulations in trying to counter computer crime sometimes referred to as cybercrime or netcrime. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/We-must-tread-carefu lly-on-cyber-security/-/539548/2098892/-/item/0/-/12mo495/-/index.html _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Nelson Mandela
by Gideon 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

Mandela Legacy, This Grand Man from Africa did what he did, in the time he promised. He left office in time and kept his word. Even after the huge sacrifices of fighting for freedom, he was kind and generous enough to let others continue leadership. We salute Madiba for the values that Africa still needs to learn to adopt. Fare Thee Well Madiba. Regards Gideon Rop On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Nelson Mandela (Walubengo J) > 2. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security (Dennis Kioko) > 3. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security > (ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 01:22:09 -0800 (PST) > From: Walubengo J < > jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > To: Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan(a)me.com> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela > Message-ID: > <1386321729.14872.YahooMailBasic(a)web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Not ICT related but allow me to also salute the African Icon Mandela. > > One thing he did very differently from an African perspective, is to leave > office when he was still needed => good succession planning => good legacy. > > This is the most difficult lesson for our African leaders. > > #RIPNelsonMandela. > > walu. > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Fri, 12/6/13, Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan(a)me.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 12:08 PM > > +1 > RIP NRM -- you have inscribed yourself into TIME > and HUMANITY. > Eric here > > On 6 Dec 2013, at 09:44, Lkimani <lkimani(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > My favorite Madiba quote: > Conviction is contagious,?never > underestimate thePower of > persistence" > ? ? ? ? ....Nelson Madiba > Mandela > RIP Tata Madiba you were and still are an an > inspirationto us. ?We will truly miss > you! > Lucy > > Sent from my iPhone > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Michael > Elliott, ONE.org" <one-help(a)list.one.org> > Date: December 6, 2013, 7:16:00 AM GMT+03:00 > To: "Lucy Kimani" <lkimani(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Nelson Mandela > Reply-To: "Michael Elliott, ONE.org" > <one-help(a)list.one.org> > > > > > > Blank Email > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Sometimes, it falls upon a > generation to be great.' > > > > > > > > Pay tribute to Nelson Mandela > and share his powerful words today. > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > Dear Lucy, > > Nelson Mandela's unwavering courage, forgiveness and > hope touched and inspired people all around the world. He > showed that the dream of a just society is possible and he > challenged our generation to lead the way towards it. > > As Mandela said in his extraordinary 2005 speech in > London's Trafalgar Square, 'Like slavery and > apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can > be overcome and eradicated by the actions of human > beings.' > > And he ended his speech with a call that moves us still. > > 'Sometimes,' Mandela said, 'it falls upon a > generation to be great. You can be that great generation. > Let your greatness blossom.' > > One way to honor Nelson Mandela's memory is to share > those words to prove every day that this generation can be > the great one that ends extreme poverty. > Share > his words now. > > > Michael Elliott > President and CEO, ONE > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > JOIN US. > ONE.ORG?|?PRIVACY?|?UNSUBSCRIBE > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPREAD THE > WORD > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > ? > > > > This email was sent by > ONE.org to lkimani(a)yahoo.com. > > Add one-help(a)list.one.org > to your address book to ensure our emails reach your inbox. > > > > Copyright ? 2013 > ONE, All rights reserved. > > > Our mailing address > is: > > ONE Campaign > > 1400 Eye Street NW, > Suite 600 > > Washington, DC > > 20005 > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ericosiakwan%40me.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a > multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions > interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The > network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth > and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect > people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't > flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, > do not market your wares or > qualifications. > > Eric M.K > Osiakwan+233244386792?"Accraboy" > 4 Skype@eosiakwan 4 Twitter > ?about.me/ericosiakwan? > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a > multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions > interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The > network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth > and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect > people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame > or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do > not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:17:18 +0300 > From: "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> > To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security > Message-ID: <1386322434307.5d950364@CloudMagic> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20131206/daf69f… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 09:49:50 +0000 > From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk > To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>, "kictanet" > <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007= > yahoo.co.uk(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security > Message-ID: > > <648232868-1386323389-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588793321-(a)b16.c1.bise7.blackberry > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Walu, > Say it louder! We need substantial objectivity on some of these matters. > > John Kariuki. > Sent from my BlackBerry? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > Sender: "kictanet" > <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 00:19:47 > To: <ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security > > @Ali, > > your comments sound like ITU-WCIT debate Reloaded :-) > > Let me be cheeky abit. > > If SPAM can ONLY be tackled by technology - why hasn't it been tackled? > Indeed the technology that could kill spam (e.g. PKI deployment at IP, > SMTP, DNS-SEC, etc- apologies for the Tech jargon) has been with us for > over 10years...how come spam refused to die? > > Dont get me wrong, I am still civil-society biased. It is just that I get > worried when solutions to complex problems are straight-jacketed into one > block (tech, political, legal or otherwise). I think the solutions do not > lie on ONE of the above, but all of the above. > > walu. > > -------------------------------------------- > On Fri, 12/6/13, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security > To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 10:59 AM > > Walu > I'm of the opinion that Spam is an issue > tackled best by technology NOT legislation... > > Ali Hussein > +254 0770 > 906375 / 0713 601113 <%200713%20601113> > "I fear the day technology will > surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation > of idiots". ?~ Albert Einstein > Sent from my iPad > On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > @Ndemo, > > The fact that the raccoon (google says this is some > animal in the US :-) did manage to flood your email with > spam is a confirmation that we do need the cyber-laws even > in Africa :-) > > Anyway, whereas I agree with most of your article I > had a comment on this one paragraph : > > The industry sometimes lies with > statistics that in most cases do not make any sense. > Gullible nations are spending a fortune on cyber security. > Even countries with less than one per cent Internet > penetration are talking about cyber security. > << > > I was of the opinion that countries with fewer > machines online SHOULD be talking loudest about > Cybersecurity simply because we live in a connected world. > Most IT-savvy cyber-criminals ?based in developed > economies hijack the few ?"3rd-world" > (forgive the use of word) networks/computers to launch > attacks in other jurisdictions. Unless there are > laws/frameworks compelling corrective action most of these > local networks will forever remain vulnerable. > > However, it also true is that some > autocratic/non-democratic governments are going to ride this > cyber-security bandwagon for the sake of adding more > repression to their citizenry. The civil-society (recently > baptized as evil-society :-) must forever be > watchful. > > walu. > > -------------------------------------------- > On Fri, 12/6/13, Bitange Ndemo <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > wrote: > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on > cyber security > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 8:12 AM > > Hussein, > Some raccoon decided to clog my e-mail with spam > as > punishment because of > the article.? I am not opposed to cyber security > but > some people (and you > remember Dubai) want to use cyber security as a basis > for > stifling > internet freedom. > > Ndemo. > > > > Grace > > Thanks for > sharing. We indeed must tread carefully. > There is definitely a > case for a regulatory > framework. This must however be > tampered with the > understanding that too much > regulation will throttle > the industry. It is a > fine balance that we must > maintain. > > *Ali > Hussein* > > > > > > Tel: +254 770 > 906375/ 713 601113 > > Twitter: > @AliHKassim > > Skype: > abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: > http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > Any information > of a personal nature expressed in this > email are purely > mine and do not necessarily > reflect the official > positions of the > organizations that I work > with. > > > On Thu, Dec 5, > 2013 at 9:20 PM, Grace Githaiga > <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com>wrote: > > n Kenya, we have done extremely well in > the > adoption of ICTs. This is > a > field > that requires a lot of creativity, but we may > just end up killing > that > creativity with too many rules and regulations > in trying to > counter > computer crime sometimes referred to as > cybercrime > or netcrime. > > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/We-must-tread-caref… > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing > list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or > change your options at > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT > Action Network (KICTANet) is a > multi-stakeholder > platform > for > people and institutions interested and involved > in ICT policy and > regulation. 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We must tread carefully on cyber security
by Grace Githaiga 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

n Kenya, we have done extremely well in the adoption of ICTs. This is a field that requires a lot of creativity, but we may just end up killing that creativity with too many rules and regulations in trying to counter computer crime sometimes referred to as cybercrime or netcrime.http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/We-must-tr…

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Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated
by Edwin Onchari 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

They could even sell licenses to independent courier services providers who are too small to develop their own platform; for their end customers to track their shipments and trigger innovations around the same Kind regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:14 AM To: Edwin Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 44 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated (robert yawe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 08:08:21 +0000 (GMT) From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated Message-ID: <1386317301.49246.YahooMailNeo(a)web171704.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, We do not need the fund just tell postal to develop a shipping module such as that offered by FedEx, DHL, USPS, UPS and Aramex for use by e-commerce site developers and the organisation will be able to self finance. It is for the reason above that I campaigned for the post of Post Master General and I feel obliged to restart it as it is clear that the current occupant of the seat is still stuck in his GM Financial Services days and cannot see the forest for the trees. I ask you all to please watch the video link I posted earlier and listen to the message being put across. http://www.bloomberg.com/video/a-day-in-the-life-of-an-amazon-package-oFml8Y tmTsO0dS3yjwPZng.html ? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 On Friday, 6 December 2013, 7:55, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: Ngigi ? First things first...:-) Let the fund be operational first..We have been singing this story for the last five years... ? But the idea of including Postal Services within this is an interesting and intriguing one.. ? ? Ali Hussein ? ? Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: Ali, > >The USF is a new one, I am catching up with the telcoms stuff :-) > >Now, how about the postal service, is there anything like that? > > > > >On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: > >Ngigi >> >> >>You are absolutely right.? >> >> >>The Safaricom example though may be misplaced...to cover those areas that are not economically viable we have the Universal Service Fund...which in my humble opinion has been snoozing on the job.. >> >> >>Ali Hussein >> >> >>+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >> >> >>"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world >>will have a generation of idiots". ?~ Albert Einstein >> >>Sent from my iPad >> >>On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: >> >> >>I don't think the postal corporation is short of ideas on how to make money in the obvious centres, the problem is it needs to sustain its services even in areas where there is no direct commercial benefit. And in such a country as ours where development is very centralized, that means a lot of areas that postal needs to cover at a loss. >>> >>>As an example, what if Safaricom was mandated by law to cover equally every sector in our country, would we also ask it to make the massive profits that it makes today? >>> >>>Rgds >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Edwin Onchari <eonchari(a)lynxbits.com> wrote: >>> >>>The corporation can tap into commercial ventures such as courier >>>services >>>>for agricultural produce as well...I consume fresh "spider >>>>flower"--aka 'saga' from my native land brought to NRB each morning >>>>using PSVs. With the corporations presence all over, this is a >>>>service they can offer and people like myself would not mind having >>>>this delicacy delivered to my doorstep at a fee! >>>> >>>>Kind regards, >>>>Edwin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: kictanet >>>>[mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] >>>>On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 3:29 PM >>>>To: Edwin >>>>Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 33 >>>> >>>>Send kictanet mailing list submissions to ? ? ? ? >>>>kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ? ? ? ? >>>>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ? ? ? ? >>>>kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>>You can reach the person managing the list at ? ? ? ? >>>>kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>than >>>>"Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>>Today's Topics: >>>> >>>>? ?1. Re: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated ? ? ? >>>>(Phares Kariuki) >>>> >>>> >>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>-- >>>> >>>>Message: 1 >>>>Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:51:15 +0300 >>>>From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> >>>>To: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> >>>>Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <cpa(a)cck.go.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy >>>>? ? ? ? Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>> >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - ? ? ? ? >>>>regurgitated >>>>Message-ID: <etPan.52a07033.5bd062c2.a8(a)pharess-mbp.lan> >>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>>There?s more than enough market for Postel. e.g. couriers have >>>>mushroomed all over Nairobi, that?s business that Postel could >>>>easily monopolise (they >>>> >>>>can hire riders in various towns to deliver letters door to door). >>>>Just because Nairobi doesn?t have a centralised addressing system it >>>>doesn?t mean that Postel can?t come up with their own system, which >>>>can be adapted by the city later.? >>>>From:?Ngigi Waithaka Ngigi Waithaka >>>>Reply:?Ngigi Waithaka ngigi(a)at.co.ke Date:?December 5, 2013 at >>>>2:51:15 PM To:?Phares Kariuki pkariuki(a)gmail.com Subject:? Re: >>>>[kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated >>>> >>>>Listers, >>>> >>>>The bottomline question that plagues most Postal Services is whether >>>>they can be ran independently and at the same time at a profit? >>>> >>>>Postal Services provide such basic services in elementary >>>>communication that sometimes they would need to ran, for at least an >>>>entire country to communicate, even if they are doing so at a loss. >>>>As an example, I doubt there is little business sense having a Post >>>>Office for the whole of Turkana County, but, basic service delivery demands it. >>>> >>>>In a way, and as a country, we need to look at the previous Kenya >>>>Posts & Telecommunications as one with some parts by default >>>>probably being the revenue earners, others due to their very nature, revenue lossers. >>>> >>>>The targets we set Postal Services should primarily be about service >>>>delivery & revenue generation second. It would hence make more sense >>>>if Postal Services could guarantee delivery of parcels across the >>>>country in say 7 days, and hence boost eCommerce significantly when >>>>everyone, including that guy in North Horr has a distinct Postal >>>>Address rather than make a few billion shillings in profits by closing most of the postal outlets. >>>> >>>>Almost 2-cents worth... >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Waithaka Ngigi >>>>A1.iO >>>> >>>> >>>>On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Postal corporation is an irrational corporation.? >>>> >>>>They are shutting down outlets, yet it?s almost impossible to get an >>>>address >>>> >>>>with them. The more outlets they shut down, the less valuable the >>>>entire network is simply because you have fewer locations you can mail.? >>>> >>>>We don?t need USF to expand PCK offices, we simply need rational >>>>minds running it.? >>>>From:?Wambua, Christopher Wambua, Christopher Reply:?Wambua, >>>>Christopher wambua(a)cck.go.ke Date:?December 5, 2013 at 1:55:03 PM >>>>To:?Phares Kariuki pkariuki(a)gmail.com >>>> >>>>Subject:? Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - >>>>regurgitated >>>> >>>>Kivuva, >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>We know that interconnection exists in the postal/courier >>>>sub-sector, and indeed CCK encourages it. ??That is why are basing >>>>our projections on both >>>> >>>>the public and private postal/courier operators. Just to summarize >>>>my two earlier responses, we shall realize the target by: >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>1.?????? Using USF to expand PCK post offices, >>>> >>>>2.?????? Encouraging usage of postal outlets for government services >>>>hence >>>> >>>>securing sustainability as well as expansion, >>>> >>>>3.?????? Licensing more rural private postal/courier operators >>>> >>>>4.?????? Liberalizing where possible certain existing postal >>>>exclusive >>>> >>>>services currently reserved for PCK to encourage growth. We have >>>>commenced a comprehensive study in this area to inform the review. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Best regards, >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Christopher Wambua >>>> >>>>Manager ? Communications >>>> >>>>Consumer and Public Affairs Department >>>> >>>>Communications Commission of Kenya >>>> >>>>P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 >>>> >>>>Tel: +254 20 4242209 >>>> >>>>info(a)cck.go.ke >>>> >>>>www.cck.go.ke >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>From: lordmwesh(a)gmail.com [mailto:lordmwesh@gmail.com] On Behalf Of >>>>Kivuva >>>>Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:36 PM >>>>To: Wambua, Christopher >>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - >>>>regurgitated >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Thank you Wambua, >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>I had seen that especially on Page 24 of your strategic plan "6. >>>>Postal and Courier Penetration (Population >>>> >>>>Per Post Office and/or Courier Outlets) from 29,992 to 20,000" >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>You understand the folly of relying on private couriers, they have a >>>>discretion of deciding where to pitch their business. Do you know >>>>even private couriers rely on Posta and EMS to reach Lokitang, >>>>Loitoktok and Longisa? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>______________________ >>>>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. >>>>twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>> >>>>google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>On 4 December 2013 21:07, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua(a)cck.go.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>>Kivuva, >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>You may wish to note that, from a regulatory perspective, postal >>>>outlets also include private courier outlets whose numbers have been >>>>growing consistently at a rate of 20 outlets per annum. ? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>According to the Kenya Information and Communications Act, Cap 411A, >>>>the post refers to any system for the delivery of postal articles. A >>>>postal article is anything deliverable by post. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Best regards, >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Christopher Wambua >>>> >>>>Manager ? Communications >>>> >>>>Consumer and Public Affairs Department >>>> >>>>Communications Commission of Kenya >>>> >>>>P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 >>>> >>>>Tel: +254 20 4242209 >>>> >>>>info(a)cck.go.ke >>>> >>>>www.cck.go.ke >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>From: kictanet >>>>[mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On >>>>Behalf Of Kivuva >>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:59 PM >>>>To: Wambua, Christopher >>>> >>>> >>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>> >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - >>>>regurgitated >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>There is no e-commerce without a distribution network. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>In CCK's 5 Year strategic plan, they have promised to increase >>>>Postal /Courier services from 28,000people/postOffice to 20,000. I >>>>asked last week how they intend to achieve that! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>______________________ >>>>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. >>>>twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>> >>>>google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>On 2 December 2013 21:03, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>Listers, >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>If anyone of you can get the following link to either the Cabinet >>>>Secretary for IC&T Dr. Matiangi and the Posta Master General Dr. >>>>Kinara please forward it and hopefully they will realise that >>>>closing post office locations and laying off staff is the worst >>>>thing they can do for the growth of e-commerce in the region. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>http://www.bloomberg.com/video/a-day-in-the-life-of-an-amazon-packag >>>>e-oFml8Y >>>>tmTsO0dS3yjwPZng.html >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Robert Yawe >>>>KAY System Technologies Ltd >>>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>>>Kenya >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>On Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 11:44, robert yawe >>>><robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>Yesterday PCK launched their payment platform which allows me to >>>>regurgitate a post, below, that I did in 2010 when I started my >>>>public campaign to be appointed the PMG. >>>> >>>>At the launch a clear statement was made on how the government will >>>>use the PCK infrastructure to deliver its services to the public a >>>>position that was many a times reiterated by Dr. Kate Getao the ICT >>>>Secretary, her strategy unlike many of the others seems like it will come to pass.? >>>> >>>> >>>>The PASHA, Digital Village and most of the other initiatives have >>>>all fallen by the wayside and the one that was ever going to be >>>>sustainable has emerged victorious, which raises the question of >>>>what has changed in the last 100 days? >>>> >>>>??? 1.? Dr. Ndemo is no longer in charge of the Information ministry >>>>(even though the former minister Hon. Pogisho was prominent at the PCK launch) ??? >>>>2.? Mr. Paul Kukubo left the KICT Board ??? 3.? KICT Board to be >>>>placed under the e-Government docket ??? 4.? A digital focused >>>>President has taken up the reigns >>>> >>>>??? 5.? A realisation by those in government that PCK is more than stamps ?? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>??? >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Forwarded Message ----- >>>>From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>>>To: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010, 10:54 >>>>Subject: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>It is with shock that I read about the closing of some of the post >>>>offices around the country by?Postal?Corporation. ?This is an >>>>indication of a management that has no vision or?ambition?maybe as a >>>>result of using the corporation as a retirement centre.? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>With us trying to achieve universal access, >>>>?http://www.cck.go.ke/services/universal_access/downloads/FinalUArep >>>>ort.pdf, shutting down post offices is a step in the wrong >>>>direction. ?It is >>>> >>>>unfortunate that we have heard no reaction to this issue from the >>>>ministry of information, CCK or even Kenya ICTBoard. ? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>It is time Postal corporation was run by someone who understands the >>>>transitioning of the role of the postal corporation in the digital >>>>age, to me they are the perfect platform for rolling out digital >>>>villages, outsorucing service and e-commerce. ?This will avoid the >>>>appointment of >>>> >>>>executives who are more interested in the supply of fuel, tyres and >>>>insurance as opposed to moving the organisations to new heights. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Implementation of e-mail to mail systems would reduce the costs of >>>>transport incurred by PCK which makes up over 60% of their operational costs. >>>>?Unfortunately most of those who have been appointed to the post of >>>>post >>>> >>>>master general have no appreciation of the role of the postal >>>>services in the development of the nation. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Do not listen to the myopic stories about the death of the postal >>>>service because of e-mail, facebok and twitter as you and I know >>>>that a physical item can never be delivered electronically. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>I believe the appointment of the next post master general and by >>>>extension the chief executive of the Kenya ICTBoard and CCK need to >>>>include vetting and recommendations from the private sector with >>>>clearly defined performance indicators. ? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Robert Yawe >>>>KAY System Technologies Ltd >>>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>>>Kenya >>>> >>>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>kictanet mailing list >>>>kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>>Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo .co. >>>>uk >>>> >>>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT >>>>policy and regulation. 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Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 44
by Edwin Onchari 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

They could even sell licenses to independent courier services providers who are too small to develop their own platform; for their end customers to track their shipments and trigger innovations around the same Kind regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:14 AM To: Edwin Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 44 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated (robert yawe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 08:08:21 +0000 (GMT) From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated Message-ID: <1386317301.49246.YahooMailNeo(a)web171704.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, We do not need the fund just tell postal to develop a shipping module such as that offered by FedEx, DHL, USPS, UPS and Aramex for use by e-commerce site developers and the organisation will be able to self finance. It is for the reason above that I campaigned for the post of Post Master General and I feel obliged to restart it as it is clear that the current occupant of the seat is still stuck in his GM Financial Services days and cannot see the forest for the trees. I ask you all to please watch the video link I posted earlier and listen to the message being put across. http://www.bloomberg.com/video/a-day-in-the-life-of-an-amazon-package-oFml8Y tmTsO0dS3yjwPZng.html ? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 On Friday, 6 December 2013, 7:55, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: Ngigi ? First things first...:-) Let the fund be operational first..We have been singing this story for the last five years... ? But the idea of including Postal Services within this is an interesting and intriguing one.. ? ? Ali Hussein ? ? Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: Ali, > >The USF is a new one, I am catching up with the telcoms stuff :-) > >Now, how about the postal service, is there anything like that? > > > > >On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: > >Ngigi >> >> >>You are absolutely right.? >> >> >>The Safaricom example though may be misplaced...to cover those areas that are not economically viable we have the Universal Service Fund...which in my humble opinion has been snoozing on the job.. >> >> >>Ali Hussein >> >> >>+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >> >> >>"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world >>will have a generation of idiots". ?~ Albert Einstein >> >>Sent from my iPad >> >>On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: >> >> >>I don't think the postal corporation is short of ideas on how to make money in the obvious centres, the problem is it needs to sustain its services even in areas where there is no direct commercial benefit. And in such a country as ours where development is very centralized, that means a lot of areas that postal needs to cover at a loss. >>> >>>As an example, what if Safaricom was mandated by law to cover equally every sector in our country, would we also ask it to make the massive profits that it makes today? >>> >>>Rgds >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Edwin Onchari <eonchari(a)lynxbits.com> wrote: >>> >>>The corporation can tap into commercial ventures such as courier >>>services >>>>for agricultural produce as well...I consume fresh "spider >>>>flower"--aka 'saga' from my native land brought to NRB each morning >>>>using PSVs. With the corporations presence all over, this is a >>>>service they can offer and people like myself would not mind having >>>>this delicacy delivered to my doorstep at a fee! >>>> >>>>Kind regards, >>>>Edwin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: kictanet >>>>[mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] >>>>On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 3:29 PM >>>>To: Edwin >>>>Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 33 >>>> >>>>Send kictanet mailing list submissions to ? ? ? ? >>>>kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ? ? ? ? >>>>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ? ? ? ? >>>>kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>>You can reach the person managing the list at ? ? ? ? >>>>kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>than >>>>"Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>>Today's Topics: >>>> >>>>? ?1. Re: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated ? ? ? >>>>(Phares Kariuki) >>>> >>>> >>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>-- >>>> >>>>Message: 1 >>>>Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:51:15 +0300 >>>>From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> >>>>To: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> >>>>Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <cpa(a)cck.go.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy >>>>? ? ? ? Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>> >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - ? ? ? ? >>>>regurgitated >>>>Message-ID: <etPan.52a07033.5bd062c2.a8(a)pharess-mbp.lan> >>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>>There?s more than enough market for Postel. e.g. couriers have >>>>mushroomed all over Nairobi, that?s business that Postel could >>>>easily monopolise (they >>>> >>>>can hire riders in various towns to deliver letters door to door). >>>>Just because Nairobi doesn?t have a centralised addressing system it >>>>doesn?t mean that Postel can?t come up with their own system, which >>>>can be adapted by the city later.? >>>>From:?Ngigi Waithaka Ngigi Waithaka >>>>Reply:?Ngigi Waithaka ngigi(a)at.co.ke Date:?December 5, 2013 at >>>>2:51:15 PM To:?Phares Kariuki pkariuki(a)gmail.com Subject:? Re: >>>>[kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated >>>> >>>>Listers, >>>> >>>>The bottomline question that plagues most Postal Services is whether >>>>they can be ran independently and at the same time at a profit? >>>> >>>>Postal Services provide such basic services in elementary >>>>communication that sometimes they would need to ran, for at least an >>>>entire country to communicate, even if they are doing so at a loss. >>>>As an example, I doubt there is little business sense having a Post >>>>Office for the whole of Turkana County, but, basic service delivery demands it. >>>> >>>>In a way, and as a country, we need to look at the previous Kenya >>>>Posts & Telecommunications as one with some parts by default >>>>probably being the revenue earners, others due to their very nature, revenue lossers. >>>> >>>>The targets we set Postal Services should primarily be about service >>>>delivery & revenue generation second. It would hence make more sense >>>>if Postal Services could guarantee delivery of parcels across the >>>>country in say 7 days, and hence boost eCommerce significantly when >>>>everyone, including that guy in North Horr has a distinct Postal >>>>Address rather than make a few billion shillings in profits by closing most of the postal outlets. >>>> >>>>Almost 2-cents worth... >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Waithaka Ngigi >>>>A1.iO >>>> >>>> >>>>On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Postal corporation is an irrational corporation.? >>>> >>>>They are shutting down outlets, yet it?s almost impossible to get an >>>>address >>>> >>>>with them. The more outlets they shut down, the less valuable the >>>>entire network is simply because you have fewer locations you can mail.? >>>> >>>>We don?t need USF to expand PCK offices, we simply need rational >>>>minds running it.? >>>>From:?Wambua, Christopher Wambua, Christopher Reply:?Wambua, >>>>Christopher wambua(a)cck.go.ke Date:?December 5, 2013 at 1:55:03 PM >>>>To:?Phares Kariuki pkariuki(a)gmail.com >>>> >>>>Subject:? Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - >>>>regurgitated >>>> >>>>Kivuva, >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>We know that interconnection exists in the postal/courier >>>>sub-sector, and indeed CCK encourages it. ??That is why are basing >>>>our projections on both >>>> >>>>the public and private postal/courier operators. Just to summarize >>>>my two earlier responses, we shall realize the target by: >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>1.?????? Using USF to expand PCK post offices, >>>> >>>>2.?????? Encouraging usage of postal outlets for government services >>>>hence >>>> >>>>securing sustainability as well as expansion, >>>> >>>>3.?????? Licensing more rural private postal/courier operators >>>> >>>>4.?????? Liberalizing where possible certain existing postal >>>>exclusive >>>> >>>>services currently reserved for PCK to encourage growth. We have >>>>commenced a comprehensive study in this area to inform the review. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Best regards, >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Christopher Wambua >>>> >>>>Manager ? Communications >>>> >>>>Consumer and Public Affairs Department >>>> >>>>Communications Commission of Kenya >>>> >>>>P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 >>>> >>>>Tel: +254 20 4242209 >>>> >>>>info(a)cck.go.ke >>>> >>>>www.cck.go.ke >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>From: lordmwesh(a)gmail.com [mailto:lordmwesh@gmail.com] On Behalf Of >>>>Kivuva >>>>Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:36 PM >>>>To: Wambua, Christopher >>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - >>>>regurgitated >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Thank you Wambua, >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>I had seen that especially on Page 24 of your strategic plan "6. >>>>Postal and Courier Penetration (Population >>>> >>>>Per Post Office and/or Courier Outlets) from 29,992 to 20,000" >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>You understand the folly of relying on private couriers, they have a >>>>discretion of deciding where to pitch their business. Do you know >>>>even private couriers rely on Posta and EMS to reach Lokitang, >>>>Loitoktok and Longisa? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>______________________ >>>>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. >>>>twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>> >>>>google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>On 4 December 2013 21:07, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua(a)cck.go.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>>Kivuva, >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>You may wish to note that, from a regulatory perspective, postal >>>>outlets also include private courier outlets whose numbers have been >>>>growing consistently at a rate of 20 outlets per annum. ? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>According to the Kenya Information and Communications Act, Cap 411A, >>>>the post refers to any system for the delivery of postal articles. A >>>>postal article is anything deliverable by post. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Best regards, >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Christopher Wambua >>>> >>>>Manager ? Communications >>>> >>>>Consumer and Public Affairs Department >>>> >>>>Communications Commission of Kenya >>>> >>>>P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 >>>> >>>>Tel: +254 20 4242209 >>>> >>>>info(a)cck.go.ke >>>> >>>>www.cck.go.ke >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>From: kictanet >>>>[mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On >>>>Behalf Of Kivuva >>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:59 PM >>>>To: Wambua, Christopher >>>> >>>> >>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>> >>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - >>>>regurgitated >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>There is no e-commerce without a distribution network. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>In CCK's 5 Year strategic plan, they have promised to increase >>>>Postal /Courier services from 28,000people/postOffice to 20,000. I >>>>asked last week how they intend to achieve that! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>______________________ >>>>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. >>>>twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>> >>>>google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>On 2 December 2013 21:03, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>Listers, >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>If anyone of you can get the following link to either the Cabinet >>>>Secretary for IC&T Dr. Matiangi and the Posta Master General Dr. >>>>Kinara please forward it and hopefully they will realise that >>>>closing post office locations and laying off staff is the worst >>>>thing they can do for the growth of e-commerce in the region. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>http://www.bloomberg.com/video/a-day-in-the-life-of-an-amazon-packag >>>>e-oFml8Y >>>>tmTsO0dS3yjwPZng.html >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Robert Yawe >>>>KAY System Technologies Ltd >>>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>>>Kenya >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>On Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 11:44, robert yawe >>>><robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>Yesterday PCK launched their payment platform which allows me to >>>>regurgitate a post, below, that I did in 2010 when I started my >>>>public campaign to be appointed the PMG. >>>> >>>>At the launch a clear statement was made on how the government will >>>>use the PCK infrastructure to deliver its services to the public a >>>>position that was many a times reiterated by Dr. Kate Getao the ICT >>>>Secretary, her strategy unlike many of the others seems like it will come to pass.? >>>> >>>> >>>>The PASHA, Digital Village and most of the other initiatives have >>>>all fallen by the wayside and the one that was ever going to be >>>>sustainable has emerged victorious, which raises the question of >>>>what has changed in the last 100 days? >>>> >>>>??? 1.? Dr. Ndemo is no longer in charge of the Information ministry >>>>(even though the former minister Hon. Pogisho was prominent at the PCK launch) ??? >>>>2.? Mr. Paul Kukubo left the KICT Board ??? 3.? KICT Board to be >>>>placed under the e-Government docket ??? 4.? A digital focused >>>>President has taken up the reigns >>>> >>>>??? 5.? A realisation by those in government that PCK is more than stamps ?? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>??? >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Forwarded Message ----- >>>>From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>>>To: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010, 10:54 >>>>Subject: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>It is with shock that I read about the closing of some of the post >>>>offices around the country by?Postal?Corporation. ?This is an >>>>indication of a management that has no vision or?ambition?maybe as a >>>>result of using the corporation as a retirement centre.? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>With us trying to achieve universal access, >>>>?http://www.cck.go.ke/services/universal_access/downloads/FinalUArep >>>>ort.pdf, shutting down post offices is a step in the wrong >>>>direction. ?It is >>>> >>>>unfortunate that we have heard no reaction to this issue from the >>>>ministry of information, CCK or even Kenya ICTBoard. ? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>It is time Postal corporation was run by someone who understands the >>>>transitioning of the role of the postal corporation in the digital >>>>age, to me they are the perfect platform for rolling out digital >>>>villages, outsorucing service and e-commerce. ?This will avoid the >>>>appointment of >>>> >>>>executives who are more interested in the supply of fuel, tyres and >>>>insurance as opposed to moving the organisations to new heights. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Implementation of e-mail to mail systems would reduce the costs of >>>>transport incurred by PCK which makes up over 60% of their operational costs. >>>>?Unfortunately most of those who have been appointed to the post of >>>>post >>>> >>>>master general have no appreciation of the role of the postal >>>>services in the development of the nation. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Do not listen to the myopic stories about the death of the postal >>>>service because of e-mail, facebok and twitter as you and I know >>>>that a physical item can never be delivered electronically. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>I believe the appointment of the next post master general and by >>>>extension the chief executive of the Kenya ICTBoard and CCK need to >>>>include vetting and recommendations from the private sector with >>>>clearly defined performance indicators. ? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>Robert Yawe >>>>KAY System Technologies Ltd >>>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>>>Kenya >>>> >>>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>kictanet mailing list >>>>kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>>Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo .co. >>>>uk >>>> >>>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT >>>>policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for >>>>reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>> >>>>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>>>behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's >>>>times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or >>>>personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>kictanet mailing list >>>>kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>>Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40trans >>>>worldafr >>>>ica.com >>>> >>>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT >>>>policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for >>>>reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>> >>>>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>>>behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's >>>>times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or >>>>personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>kictanet mailing list >>>>kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>>Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pkariuki%40gma >>>>il.com >>>> >>>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT >>>>policy and regulation. 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Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated
by Edwin Onchari 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

The corporation can tap into commercial ventures such as courier services for agricultural produce as well...I consume fresh "spider flower"--aka 'saga' from my native land brought to NRB each morning using PSVs. With the corporations presence all over, this is a service they can offer and people like myself would not mind having this delicacy delivered to my doorstep at a fee! Kind regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 3:29 PM To: Edwin Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 33 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated (Phares Kariuki) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:51:15 +0300 From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> To: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <cpa(a)cck.go.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated Message-ID: <etPan.52a07033.5bd062c2.a8(a)pharess-mbp.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" There?s more than enough market for Postel. e.g. couriers have mushroomed all over Nairobi, that?s business that Postel could easily monopolise (they can hire riders in various towns to deliver letters door to door). Just because Nairobi doesn?t have a centralised addressing system it doesn?t mean that Postel can?t come up with their own system, which can be adapted by the city later.? From:?Ngigi Waithaka Ngigi Waithaka Reply:?Ngigi Waithaka ngigi(a)at.co.ke Date:?December 5, 2013 at 2:51:15 PM To:?Phares Kariuki pkariuki(a)gmail.com Subject:? Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated Listers, The bottomline question that plagues most Postal Services is whether they can be ran independently and at the same time at a profit? Postal Services provide such basic services in elementary communication that sometimes they would need to ran, for at least an entire country to communicate, even if they are doing so at a loss. As an example, I doubt there is little business sense having a Post Office for the whole of Turkana County, but, basic service delivery demands it. In a way, and as a country, we need to look at the previous Kenya Posts & Telecommunications as one with some parts by default probably being the revenue earners, others due to their very nature, revenue lossers. The targets we set Postal Services should primarily be about service delivery & revenue generation second. It would hence make more sense if Postal Services could guarantee delivery of parcels across the country in say 7 days, and hence boost eCommerce significantly when everyone, including that guy in North Horr has a distinct Postal Address rather than make a few billion shillings in profits by closing most of the postal outlets. Almost 2-cents worth... Regards Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> wrote: Postal corporation is an irrational corporation.? They are shutting down outlets, yet it?s almost impossible to get an address with them. The more outlets they shut down, the less valuable the entire network is simply because you have fewer locations you can mail.? We don?t need USF to expand PCK offices, we simply need rational minds running it.? From:?Wambua, Christopher Wambua, Christopher Reply:?Wambua, Christopher wambua(a)cck.go.ke Date:?December 5, 2013 at 1:55:03 PM To:?Phares Kariuki pkariuki(a)gmail.com Subject:? Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated Kivuva, ? We know that interconnection exists in the postal/courier sub-sector, and indeed CCK encourages it. ??That is why are basing our projections on both the public and private postal/courier operators. Just to summarize my two earlier responses, we shall realize the target by: ? 1.?????? Using USF to expand PCK post offices, 2.?????? Encouraging usage of postal outlets for government services hence securing sustainability as well as expansion, 3.?????? Licensing more rural private postal/courier operators 4.?????? Liberalizing where possible certain existing postal exclusive services currently reserved for PCK to encourage growth. We have commenced a comprehensive study in this area to inform the review. ? Best regards, ? Christopher Wambua Manager ? Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info(a)cck.go.ke www.cck.go.ke ? ? ? From: lordmwesh(a)gmail.com [mailto:lordmwesh@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:36 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated ? Thank you Wambua, ? I had seen that especially on Page 24 of your strategic plan "6. Postal and Courier Penetration (Population Per Post Office and/or Courier Outlets) from 29,992 to 20,000" ? You understand the folly of relying on private couriers, they have a discretion of deciding where to pitch their business. Do you know even private couriers rely on Posta and EMS to reach Lokitang, Loitoktok and Longisa? ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh ? On 4 December 2013 21:07, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua(a)cck.go.ke> wrote: Kivuva, ? You may wish to note that, from a regulatory perspective, postal outlets also include private courier outlets whose numbers have been growing consistently at a rate of 20 outlets per annum. ? ? According to the Kenya Information and Communications Act, Cap 411A, the post refers to any system for the delivery of postal articles. A postal article is anything deliverable by post. ? Best regards, ? Christopher Wambua Manager ? Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info(a)cck.go.ke www.cck.go.ke ? ? ? From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:59 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated ? There is no e-commerce without a distribution network. ? In CCK's 5 Year strategic plan, they have promised to increase Postal /Courier services from 28,000people/postOffice to 20,000. I asked last week how they intend to achieve that! ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh ? On 2 December 2013 21:03, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Listers, ? If anyone of you can get the following link to either the Cabinet Secretary for IC&T Dr. Matiangi and the Posta Master General Dr. Kinara please forward it and hopefully they will realise that closing post office locations and laying off staff is the worst thing they can do for the growth of e-commerce in the region. ? http://www.bloomberg.com/video/a-day-in-the-life-of-an-amazon-package-oFml8Y tmTsO0dS3yjwPZng.html ? Regards ? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya ? Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ? On Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 11:44, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi, Yesterday PCK launched their payment platform which allows me to regurgitate a post, below, that I did in 2010 when I started my public campaign to be appointed the PMG. At the launch a clear statement was made on how the government will use the PCK infrastructure to deliver its services to the public a position that was many a times reiterated by Dr. Kate Getao the ICT Secretary, her strategy unlike many of the others seems like it will come to pass.? The PASHA, Digital Village and most of the other initiatives have all fallen by the wayside and the one that was ever going to be sustainable has emerged victorious, which raises the question of what has changed in the last 100 days? ??? 1.? Dr. Ndemo is no longer in charge of the Information ministry (even though the former minister Hon. Pogisho was prominent at the PCK launch) ??? 2.? Mr. Paul Kukubo left the KICT Board ??? 3.? KICT Board to be placed under the e-Government docket ??? 4.? A digital focused President has taken up the reigns ??? 5.? A realisation by those in government that PCK is more than stamps ?? Regards ??? ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010, 10:54 Subject: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets ? Hi, ? It is with shock that I read about the closing of some of the post offices around the country by?Postal?Corporation. ?This is an indication of a management that has no vision or?ambition?maybe as a result of using the corporation as a retirement centre.? ? With us trying to achieve universal access, ?http://www.cck.go.ke/services/universal_access/downloads/FinalUAreport.pdf, shutting down post offices is a step in the wrong direction. ?It is unfortunate that we have heard no reaction to this issue from the ministry of information, CCK or even Kenya ICTBoard. ? ? It is time Postal corporation was run by someone who understands the transitioning of the role of the postal corporation in the digital age, to me they are the perfect platform for rolling out digital villages, outsorucing service and e-commerce. ?This will avoid the appointment of executives who are more interested in the supply of fuel, tyres and insurance as opposed to moving the organisations to new heights. ? Implementation of e-mail to mail systems would reduce the costs of transport incurred by PCK which makes up over 60% of their operational costs. ?Unfortunately most of those who have been appointed to the post of post master general have no appreciation of the role of the postal services in the development of the nation. ? Do not listen to the myopic stories about the death of the postal service because of e-mail, facebok and twitter as you and I know that a physical item can never be delivered electronically. ? I believe the appointment of the next post master general and by extension the chief executive of the Kenya ICTBoard and CCK need to include vetting and recommendations from the private sector with clearly defined performance indicators. ? ? Regards ? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ? ? ? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co. uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafr ica.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. ? ? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pkariuki%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards, Waithaka Ngigi Chief?Executive?Officer |?Alliance Technologies?|?MCK Nairobi Synod Building T + 254?(0) 20 2333 471?|Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28?|?M?+ 254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke

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Why internet costs in East Africa remain stubbornly high
by Ali Hussein 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

Despite a number of major undersea cables having connected to East Africa since 2009, internet costs have not fallen as expected with connectivity being out of reach especially to low income earners. According to a 2013 ‘Freedom on the Net’ report, an average user in East Africa requires up to $35 per month to access a stable internet connection: an amount that locks out the lowest paid unskilled workers who earn on average only about $50 monthly. http://www.itwebafrica.com/network/mozambique/232105-why-internet-costs-in-… *Ali Hussein* *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd* *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd* Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.

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USA to Switch off the POT
by James Kulubi 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

You may be interested in the story below which state that FCC is working on draft rules to phase out the Plain Old Telephone (POT) network. You will be surprise that over 100 Americans are still using POTS. Below the story you will see that there are over 500 comments and that most people who have commented hate cellular 2G/3G/4G and Obamacare. -------------------------- US eyes phase-out of old telephone network The Federal Communications Commission is working toward drafting rules in January to formalize the IP transition -- switching communications systems to Internet protocol. And while FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler hails the technological advance, he has also spoken of maintaining the "set of values" that was used to ensure America's universal phone service. Click Here to read more ....http://news.yahoo.com/us-eyes-phase-old-telephone-network-023742404.html James Kulubi

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Community frequencies
by robert yawe 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

Hi Listers, I recently met a group of Russian developers who have a GSM base station that sells at a tenth of the mainstream ones as it is based on open source technology. The product could have a massive impact on many of Kenya's far-flung communities as it would allow them to set up community based communication networks especially where the ARPU is too low for the commercial operators to venture. For this to work we need to provide a license free GSM frequency such as the 2.5 ghz that is used for data networks, do you know if there is such a provision in the CCK regulations? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated
by robert yawe 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

Hi, Yesterday PCK launched their payment platform which allows me to regurgitate a post, below, that I did in 2010 when I started my public campaign to be appointed the PMG. At the launch a clear statement was made on how the government will use the PCK infrastructure to deliver its services to the public a position that was many a times reiterated by Dr. Kate Getao the ICT Secretary, her strategy unlike many of the others seems like it will come to pass. The PASHA, Digital Village and most of the other initiatives have all fallen by the wayside and the one that was ever going to be sustainable has emerged victorious, which raises the question of what has changed in the last 100 days? 1. Dr. Ndemo is no longer in charge of the Information ministry (even though the former minister Hon. Pogisho was prominent at the PCK launch) 2. Mr. Paul Kukubo left the KICT Board 3. KICT Board to be placed under the e-Government docket 4. A digital focused President has taken up the reigns 5. A realisation by those in government that PCK is more than stamps Regards ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010, 10:54 Subject: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets Hi, It is with shock that I read about the closing of some of the post offices around the country by Postal Corporation. This is an indication of a management that has no vision or ambition maybe as a result of using the corporation as a retirement centre. With us trying to achieve universal access, http://www.cck.go.ke/services/universal_access/downloads/FinalUAreport.pdf, shutting down post offices is a step in the wrong direction. It is unfortunate that we have heard no reaction to this issue from the ministry of information, CCK or even Kenya ICTBoard. It is time Postal corporation was run by someone who understands the transitioning of the role of the postal corporation in the digital age, to me they are the perfect platform for rolling out digital villages, outsorucing service and e-commerce. This will avoid the appointment of executives who are more interested in the supply of fuel, tyres and insurance as opposed to moving the organisations to new heights. Implementation of e-mail to mail systems would reduce the costs of transport incurred by PCK which makes up over 60% of their operational costs. Unfortunately most of those who have been appointed to the post of post master general have no appreciation of the role of the postal services in the development of the nation. Do not listen to the myopic stories about the death of the postal service because of e-mail, facebok and twitter as you and I know that a physical item can never be delivered electronically. I believe the appointment of the next post master general and by extension the chief executive of the Kenya ICTBoard and CCK need to include vetting and recommendations from the private sector with clearly defined performance indicators. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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NIGERIA HAS DONE IT in 2 YEARS!
by Edith Adera 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

Listers, Nigerian Agriculture Minister, Dr Akinwumi Adesina (former VP of AGRA), has been named Forbes African Person of the Year for his reforms to the country's farming sector. He has made use of ICTs to transform how inputs are procured, cutting out corrupt deals, and shifting mindsets towards agriculture as a business. Very transformative indeed! In Kenya, we need to move away from politics, roll up sleeves and work! http://www.channelstv.com/home/2013/12/02/akinwumi-adesina-awarded-forbes-a…

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Kenya, bracing for $23 million in online fraud, to support African cybercrime pact - See more at: http://www.computerworld.com.sg/tech/industries/kenya-bracing-for-23-million-in-online-fraud-to-support-african-cybercrime-pact/#sthash.ONpQU4Nk.dpuf
by Grace Githaiga 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

Amid revelations that Kenya could lose up to US$23 million this year through cybercrime, the Kenyan government has announced its support for the ratification of the African Union (AU) convention on the establishment of a credible legal framework for cybersecurity in Africa. According to cybercrime statistics released by Fred Matiangi, the Kenyan cabinet secretary for information and communication technology (ICT), the banking industry is the most affected by cybercrime. - For more see http://www.computerworld.com.sg/tech/industries/kenya-bracing-for-23-millio…

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IDLELO 6 2014 Conference - Call For Papers
by John Matogo 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Dear colleagues. The 2014 Idlelo 6 Planning Committee is now accepting proposals for papers and presentations at the IDLELO 6 Conference. The Conference will be held at Strathmore University, Nairobi Kenya from the 24th to 28th March 2014. The theme for conference is "Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) for Development". Submissions are invited under the following broad topics: - Open Innovation - Open Government - Open Development - Open Data - Open Leadership - Open Standards/Open Hardware - FOSS Technologies - Open Education Resources - FOSS for Education - Security & FOSS - Interoperability - FOSS for SMEs - FOSS for entertainment - FOSS and Intellectual Property - FOSS in the public sector - F OSS and Entrepreneurship Key Dates: - Abstract ( Maximum 500 words): 31st December 2013 - 1st Draft Papers: 24th January 2013 - Final papers: 28th February 2013 Send submissions t o: papers(a)idlelo.net More information about the conference and submission details can be found at www.idlelo.net Regards, John Matogo Manager Incubation Centre, @iBizAfrica Strathmore University P.O. Box 59857-00200 Nairobi, KENYA Tel: +254 070 303 4280 (direct line) Personal Mobile:+254 722 813 533 Skype: jmatogo Twitter: @jmatogo LinkedIn: http://tinyurl.com/avcn7qu Web: www.strathmore.edu and http://www.ibizafrica.co.ke/ -- Note: All emails sent from Strathmore University are subject to Strathmore's Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here<http://www.strathmore.edu/aboutus.php?id=184>to read the policy. "Visit our Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/StrathmoreUniversity>Page and Twitter <https://twitter.com/StrathU>Account".

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Enterprise Management Software
by Edith Adera 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Listers, Does anyone has a rough estimate, in Dollars, of the price of a modern enterprise software to run full operations of a University? Kindly send me the info directly. Thanks Edith

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Native Ads: The debate and how regulators and industry are collaborating to define this new medium
by Ali Hussein 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Listers From a policy formulation perspective and examples of how private sector, NGOs and Government can collaborate to ensure consumer interest, best practice and industry growth are aligned this is a good example. http://www.adweek.com/news/technology/iab-sorts-out-native-ahead-ftc-worksh… Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad

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Is CCK right to require firms to host websites locally?
by Ali Hussein 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

This story is refusing to die...I'm sure aggravated by CCKs silence on this.. Wambua, can you at please tell us the DG was misquoted? Walu puts it nicely here.. http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/-require-firms-to-host-websites-loc… Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad

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Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
by Gilda Odera 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

Regards, Gilda Odera Begin forwarded message: > From: Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> > Date: April 10, 2013 12:02:14 PM GMT+03:00 > To: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants > > Listers, > > My recommendation is that this project should start from Form 1. Reasons: > > 1. We need to generate interest and start building that capacity base ASAP. Waiting for the standard ones to finish school is way too long. > 2. Given the tight budgets the country is currently facing in implementing the constitution, it is wiser to work with less numbers yet still achieve the desired outcome as things settle down over the next five years. > 3. Once successful in high schools, the project can be rolled to primary schools. By then, results of giving the high school students laptops will be evident and there should be sufficient budgets to roll both. > > In my view, capacity building is urgent in the ICT industry and therefore this noble idea should prioritise those who are bound to start innovating and harnessing their skills- which really are high school students. > My two cents. > > Regards, > > Gilda Odera > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:55 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Another reason why the laptop project is the future >> >> http://pandodaily.com/2013/04/05/ten-websites-that-teach-coding-and-a-bunch… >> >> regards >> >> >> Robert Yawe >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> Kenya >> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> >> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >> Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 8:40 >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants >> >> >> @Yawe, >> >> I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons. >> >> 1. Curriculum. >> Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.? >> >> 2. IT Teachers. >> Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics. >> >> 3. Examinations. >> It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam? >> >> 4. Security/Theft. >> If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price. >> >> 5. Maintenance\Disposal program. >> Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s. >> >> But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked >> PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer. >> >> walu. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote: >> >> >Hi, >> > >> >I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices. >> > >> >Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices? >> > >> >Regards >> > >> >PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor >> > >> > >> > >> >Robert Yawe >> >KAY System Technologies Ltd >> >Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> >P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> >Kenya >> > >> > >> >Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/godera%40skyweb.co.ke >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 8
by Edwin Onchari 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

IMHO, the DG and by extension the new CS lack innovation, otherwise they would have sought of better ways to utilize the corporation's infrastructure - including seeking contributions from this forum. Kind regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:00 PM To: Edwin Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 8 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated (robert yawe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 05:03:06 +0000 (GMT) From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Postal Corporation Closing Outlets - regurgitated Message-ID: <1386046986.67555.YahooMailNeo(a)web171701.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Listers, If anyone of you can get the following link to either the Cabinet Secretary for IC&T Dr. Matiangi and the Posta Master General Dr. Kinara please forward it and hopefully they will realise that closing post office locations and laying off staff is the worst thing they can do for the growth of e-commerce in the region. http://www.bloomberg.com/video/a-day-in-the-life-of-an-amazon-package-oFml8Y tmTsO0dS3yjwPZng.html Regards ? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 On Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 11:44, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi, Yesterday PCK launched their payment platform which allows me to regurgitate a post, below, that I did in 2010 when I started my public campaign to be appointed the PMG. At the launch a clear statement was made on how the government will use the PCK infrastructure to deliver its services to the public a position that was many a times reiterated by Dr. Kate Getao the ICT Secretary, her strategy unlike many of the others seems like it will come to pass.? The PASHA, Digital Village and most of the other initiatives have all fallen by the wayside and the one that was ever going to be sustainable has emerged victorious, which raises the question of what has changed in the last 100 days? ??? 1.? Dr. Ndemo is no longer in charge of the Information ministry (even though the former minister Hon. Pogisho was prominent at the PCK launch) ??? 2.? Mr. Paul Kukubo left the KICT Board ??? 3.? KICT Board to be placed under the e-Government docket ??? 4.? A digital focused President has taken up the reigns ??? 5.? A realisation by those in government that PCK is more than stamps?? Regards ??? ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010, 10:54 Subject: Postal Corporation Closing Outlets Hi, It is with shock that I read about the closing of some of the post offices around the country by?Postal?Corporation. ?This is an indication of a management that has no vision or?ambition?maybe as a result of using the corporation as a retirement centre.? With us trying to achieve universal access, ?http://www.cck.go.ke/services/universal_access/downloads/FinalUAreport.pdf, shutting down post offices is a step in the wrong direction. ?It is unfortunate that we have heard no reaction to this issue from the ministry of information, CCK or even Kenya ICTBoard. ? It is time Postal corporation was run by someone who understands the transitioning of the role of the postal corporation in the digital age, to me they are the perfect platform for rolling out digital villages, outsorucing service and e-commerce. ?This will avoid the appointment of executives who are more interested in the supply of fuel, tyres and insurance as opposed to moving the organisations to new heights. Implementation of e-mail to mail systems would reduce the costs of transport incurred by PCK which makes up over 60% of their operational costs. ?Unfortunately most of those who have been appointed to the post of post master general have no appreciation of the role of the postal services in the development of the nation. Do not listen to the myopic stories about the death of the postal service because of e-mail, facebok and twitter as you and I know that a physical item can never be delivered electronically. I believe the appointment of the next post master general and by extension the chief executive of the Kenya ICTBoard and CCK need to include vetting and recommendations from the private sector with clearly defined performance indicators. ? Regards ?Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co. uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Digital TV Migration
by robert yawe 02 Dec '13

02 Dec '13

Finally a simple advert that even I can understand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wcLTnVXDcU Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Re: [kictanet] Community frequencies
by Ngigi Waithaka 02 Dec '13

02 Dec '13

Emmanuel, You're welcome. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Emmanuel Khisa <oloo.khisa(a)googlemail.com>wrote: > Ngigi, > > Thank You Boss for this information. I have wondered for a long time how > we were every going to reach Turkana and Pokot with cellular network if we > couldnt even service areas barely 40km out of Nairobi because of a business > case that spoke to technologies priced at Ksh. 3-4m plus > > OpenBts and particularly this Range Network almost seems revolution and to > think it has been around for a while....Very captivating. > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: > >> Even before we go Russian, how about using tried and tested OpenBTS and >> if you dont want the hustles of setting it up yourself, you could buy a >> 'box' from Range Networks http://rangenetworks.com/ that could handle 50 >> concurrent calls for about 5k USD? >> >> Waithaka Ngigi >> >> Alliance Technologies >> Nairobi, Kenya >> >> www.A1.io >> On 27 Nov 2013 11:06, "James Kulubi" <jkulubi(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Robert, >>> I find your proposal interesting but also confusing. >>> It is interesting because the base station is ten times cheaper and uses >>> open source but it is also confusing because you are proposing >>> transmission in a frequency band that is not internationally recognized for >>> GSM (click here for second and third generation GSM details<http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/ni/3G/casestudies/GSM-FINAL.pdf>). >>> Further, you appear to be emphasis the *Um *interface and associated >>> equipment while ignoring the *Abis* and *A* equipment and interfaces. >>> How is does the Russian base station authenticate, switch, handle mobility >>> and perform roaming functions and generally interface with the global >>> environment that is full of legacy GSM systems? Will such interfaces impose >>> additional costs? Please provide us with a link to this innovative system >>> so we understand. >>> Back to your last question, the CCK national radio frequency table can >>> be found here… <http://cck.go.ke/licensing/spectrum/freq_table.html> >>> Regards >>> James >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, 27 November 2013, 8:56, robert yawe < >>> robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> I recently met a group of Russian developers who have a GSM base station >>> that sells at a tenth of the mainstream ones as it is based on open source >>> technology. >>> >>> The product could have a massive impact on many of Kenya's far-flung >>> communities as it would allow them to set up community based communication >>> networks especially where the ARPU is too low for the commercial operators >>> to venture. >>> >>> For this to work we need to provide a license free GSM frequency such as >>> the 2.5 ghz that is used for data networks, do you know if there is such a >>> provision in the CCK regulations? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Robert Yawe >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> Kenya >>> >>> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkulubi%40yahoo.co.uk >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/oloo.khisa%40gmail.com >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > "Service to Mankind is the greatest form of service"... > > > > > > *Oloo KhisaP.O. Box > 24324-00100Nairobi0721321086/0731849128http://ke.linkedin.com/in/olookhisa > <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/olookhisa>* > -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke

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Invitation to stakeholder workshops on broadband internet and the tourism and tea sectors
by Mwololo Waema Tim 30 Nov '13

30 Nov '13

Dear Listers, Attached is an invitation for stakeholder workshops on the impact of broadband internet on the value chains in the Tourism and Tea sectors, in case any lister is interested. Kind regards, Tim Mwololo Waema

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CCK launches its third strategic plan
by Wambua, Christopher 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Listers, I would like to inform you that CCK has this morning launched its third strategic plan (2013-2018). According to the Plan, CCK targets to facilitate the following by 2018: Our Measures of Success Current 2017/18 ICT Contribution to GDP 2.2% 5% Mobile Telephony Penetration 79.5% 90% Wireless Broadband Penetration 2.4% 10% Fixed Broadband Penetration 0.00011% 0.5% Internet Penetration 41.26% 70% Postal and Courier Penetration (Population Per Post Office and/or Courier Outlets) 29,992 20,000 TV Broadcast Coverage (Population) 50% 80% Local Content to Total Content Ratio 40% 60% Electronic Commerce (Mobile Money Services) Penetration 53.5% 70% Customer Satisfaction Index 71.0% 80% The Strategic Plan 2013-2018 is available at http://www.cck.go.ke/resc/publications/strategic_plan/CCK_3rd_Strategic_Pla… Best regards, Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info(a)cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>

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Search for independent .ke administrator gathers pace (Where to KeNIC)
by Ali Hussein 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Listers The Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) has delinked itself from the Kenya Network Information Centre (Kenic) setting stage for licensing of a new body that will manage and administer the country’s Internet addresses system. Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Search-for-independent--ke-administrator… Further to a blog posting by Wanjiku, this story that appeared online yesterday requires some attention from us as players in the industry. In the last AGM there was a promise to engage stakeholders to map a way forward on this issue. Stakeholder engagement is critical to ensure we don't run afoul of IANA and ICANN rules and regulations regarding redelegation (if it comes to that) of the .ke ccTLD. One thing that is coming out of this is definitely a positive and I salute CCK for moving boldly on this.This is the issue of Corporate Governance and whether as a regulator they should have a sit at the table in the running of KeNIC. Having said that, the unilaterally pronouncements from the CCK on the future of KeNIC doesn't auger well for the ccTLD. It is as if CCK has decided it is the 800 pound Gorilla (ok..admittedly it is by all intents and purposes) and what it says goes..and be damned the other stakeholders. Do I hear the word impunity? I urge the current KeNIC board (of which CCK is a member) to keep their promise of engagement and inclusiveness. They will be surprised at how receptive the community is to ensuring that .ke grows from strength to strength..if it means that this will be the end of KeNIC then so be it. But let this decision not be bulldozed down our throats by one member of the community. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad

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Day 5: Any other Issue(s)
by Grace Githaiga 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Good morning Listers So far the discussion has been good and has raised good points. Thanks to all who have actively continued to participate and even those who are silent observers:) Everyone's support is appreciated. Today is day 5 of the discussion and the final day before we start compiling the concerns that have been raised. We dedicate it to "any other issue(s)" that listers may want to raise in regard to the Convention. Additionally, listers can go back to issues of any other day and discuss them here. Questions: Are there other articles that you would like to share that need clarification? What other issue(s) would you like to raise? This is the link to the Draft African Union Convention and Security in cyberspace for your reference. http://pages.au.int/sites/default/files/AU%20Cybersecurity%20Convention%20E… Have a wonderful FridayRgdsGG

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As we twitted in our slumber
by robert yawe 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Hi Listers, As we twitted in our slumber about how CSK and KIF where not the true representatives of the industry others realised that a vacuum existed and proceeded to fill it. http://www.ictak.or.ke/ It is clear that a new mouth piece for the industry, that appreciates the need to formalise "domo", has arrived, at arms. Just like with their predecessors their members will be the ones selected to fill positions in various bodies as the official representatives of the ICT community soon after which we shall ask, who are they? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Day 1: On-line debate on African Union Convention on Cyber Security (AUCC)
by Grace Githaiga 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Good morning Listers Further to the announcement we made last Friday, we now commence this one week discussion on the African Union Convention on Cyber Security(AUCC)http://pages.au.int/sites/default/files/AU%20Cybersecurity%20… on multiple lists of KICTANet and ISOC-KE, in Kenya and on I-Network list moderated by the Collaboration on International ICT Policy in East and Southern Africa (CIPESA) and ISOC -Uganda. Background to the African Union Convention on Cyber Security (AUCC) African Union (AU) convention (52 page document) seeks to intensify the fight against cybercrime across Africa in light of increase in cybercrime, and a lack of mastery of security risks by African countries. Further, that one challenge for African countries is lack of technological security adequate enough to prevent and effectively control technological and informational risks. As such “African States are in dire need of innovative criminal policy strategies that embody States, societal and technical responses to create a credible legal climate for cyber security”. The Convention establishes a framework for cybersecurity in Africa “through organisation of electronic transactions, protection of personal data, promotion of cyber security, e-governance and combating cybercrime” (Conceptual framework). As an additional reference to the earlier ones, please find attached a letter that was sent to the AU by the Center for Intellectual Property and Information Technology law and Strathmore University school of law. We begin the discussion with Part 1 on Electronic transactions. Today, we will discuss two out of four articles from this section. Section III: Publicity by electronic means Article I – 7: Without prejudice to Article I-4 any advertising action, irrespective of its form, accessible through online communication service, shall be clearly identified as such. It shall clearly identify the individual or corporate body on behalf of whom it is undertaken. Question: Should net anonymity be legislated? If so, what measures need to be or not be considered? Question: Should individuals or companies be obliged to reveal their identities and what are the implications? Article I – 8: The conditions governing the possibility of promotional offers as well as the conditions for participating in promotional competitions or games where such offers, competitions or games are electronically disseminated, shall be clearly spelt out and easily accessible. Question: Should an international (or should we call it regional) law legislate on promotional offers and competitions offered locally? Over to you Listers. Let us engage and make concrete suggestions. A great week to you all.RgdsGG

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4 Reasons Why CCK’s Plan To Enforce Local Web Site Hosting Is Impractical
by Ali Hussein 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

http://www.moseskemibaro.com/2013/11/28/4-reasons-why-ccks-plan-to-enforce-… Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad

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OT: Local content: Kenyan Racing Game Ma3racer finally on Android
by Joe Murithi Njeru 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

It's finally here! Get your hands on Ma3Racer 1.5 now! on Android. Racing with public transport has never been this exciting. Test your skills against the busiest, roughest, most rugged Nairobi roads. Weave your Ma3 through traffic and over barriers in pursuit of coins and gold bags. But keep an eye out for the ominous black ma3 hell-bent on doing whatever it takes to stop you dead in your tracks. Kuwa chonjo. So you think you have what it takes to be the last Ma3 standing? Hold on to your device; this is going to be one heck of a bumpy ride! Click below to download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.PlanetRackus.Ma3Racer&hl=… -- Joe Murithi Njeru - Chief Executive Officer Regards, Joe Murithi Njeru - Chief Executive Officer m: +254 722 787725 e: joe.njeru(a)zilojo.com <mailto:joe.njeru@zilojo.com?Subject=Hello> w: www.zilojo.com <http://www.zilojo.com> G+: google.com/+Zilojo <http://www.google.com/+Zilojo> o: +254 20 2190873 Map: http://goo.gl/maps/9IVjt *Suite B21, Ground Floor, Block B, Silverpool Office Suites, Jabavu Lane, Hurlingham Nairobi, Kenya.* <http://www.zilojo.com>

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Idlelo 6 Call for Papers
by John Matogo 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

Dear colleagues. Kindly find attached the Call for Papers for the Idlelo 6 Conference that will take place from 24th March to 28th March 2014 at Strathmore University in Nairobi, Kenya. Kindly share widely among your networks. Regards, John Matogo Manager Incubation Centre, @iBizAfrica Strathmore University P.O. Box 59857-00200 Nairobi, KENYA Tel: +254 070 303 4280 (direct line) Personal Mobile:+254 722 813 533 Skype: jmatogo Twitter: @jmatogo LinkedIn: http://tinyurl.com/avcn7qu Web: www.strathmore.edu and http://www.ibizafrica.co.ke/ -- Note: All emails sent from Strathmore University are subject to Strathmore's Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here<http://www.strathmore.edu/aboutus.php?id=184>to read the policy. "Visit our Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/StrathmoreUniversity>Page and Twitter <https://twitter.com/StrathU>Account".

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Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY
by Walubengo J 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

@Liko, @Eng Karuiki, Recall that this local hosting/ cyber security is not my ideal position. Just a consensus understanding I picked from my long online argument on the same with Sammy B. But maybe we can use the defamation example. If I defamed someone on a blog hosted locally, it is easier to enforce a pull-down order from a local court as oppsed to if the content sits abroad and physically under a different jurisdiction. Enforcement is therfore easier because one can walk up to the server room and make arrests if the techies decline to implement an order. This realization in itself will increase self-regulation at User,Content Provider and Operator levels. my 2pings. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 8:12 PM AST (Arabian) Agosta Liko wrote: >Walu > >How does local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, >judiciary) some teeth ? > > > > >On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> @WhiteAfrican, >> >> I do get your message. But your language might be considered too strong >> by @BlackAfrican standard and folks may take offense. Check Ali's post on >> the same - same message, different words :-) >> >> That said, I think the King @CCK has been caught "naked". Maybe the >> planned regulation is to make ALL GOVERNMENT data local (which is within >> the government/regulatory scope to make the call). Or maybe he was >> misquoted, or maybe I might be trying to hard to do the PR job for CCK... >> >> @Wambua, you have off late gone completely underground? >> >> walu. >> nb: the benefit of local hosting within the context of cybersecurity was >> argued on a 1-on-1 between me and Sammy B and we came to some consensus :- >> that local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, >> judiciary) some teeth...and by extension this in itself can act as >> deterrent against would-be cybercriminals. >> >> I however dont think that this should lead to a decree that everyone MUST >> host locally because then I will have to give up my jwalu(a)yahoo.com mail >> account to avoid hosting my mails abroad :-) >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Wed, 11/27/13, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 4:41 PM >> >> This is the kind of >> stupidity that makes you wonder if the people dealing with >> the internet regulations and policy at CCK even know what >> the internet is. >> >> >> -- >> Erik Hersman >> >> Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK@WhiteAfrican >> >> On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rad! >> <conradakunga(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> Absolutely absurd if this is in >> fact true. >> How does hosting sites locally mitigated against >> cybercrime? >> >> What business does anyone have dictating to me >> where i can and can't host my websites? >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at >> 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> >> wrote: >> >> Listers >> >> The Communications >> Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that >> may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring >> websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight >> against cyber crime... >> >> >> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-… >> >> I sincerely hope that the DG was >> somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to >> host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or >> mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security >> infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host >> any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one >> locally. >> >> Can government please focus on >> legislation and regulation instead of butting into my >> business and telling me where I should host my website?? >> >> >> Ali Hussein >> >> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 >> 601113 >> "I fear the day technology will >> surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation >> of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein >> >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> >> kictanet mailing list >> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.… >> >> >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a >> multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions >> interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The >> network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth >> and development. >> >> >> >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect >> people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't >> flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, >> do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a >> multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions >> interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The >> network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth >> and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect >> people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't >> flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, >> do not market your wares or >> qualifications. >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a >> multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions >> interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The >> network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth >> and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect >> people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame >> or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do >> not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/agostal%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>

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Fwd: [i-network] ICT report adopted by EALA
by Barrack Otieno 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Pamela Kiria <kiria(a)i-network.or.ug> Date: Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:27 AM Subject: [i-network] ICT report adopted by EALA To: I-Network Uganda <i-network(a)dgroups.org> …Meanwhile, the Assembly wants the implementation of cross border broadband networks to facilitate the integration of ICT Networks and affordable costs of cross-border communications. In order to harmonise roaming on call costs, EALA wants the Council of Ministers to push for the introduction of uniform price cap regulation for roaming mobile costs within the EAC. This it says shall enable consumers to enjoy the benefits of competitive calling rates. Regulators on their part should encourage all mobile operators in the region to adopt one network approach as applied by Airtel Telecommunication Company……….. http://www.eala.org/media-centre/press-releases/588-house-adopts-two-resolu… Good news don’t you think?! Regards, PamKiria. MAILING LIST RULES - http://www.i-network.or.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=189… WEEKLY DISCUSSION ROUNDUPS - http://www.i-network.or.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=19… QUARTERLY eNEWSLETTERS - http://www.i-network.or.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=34&… WEBSITE - www.i-network.or.ug TWITTER - http://twitter.com/inetwork FACEBOOK - https://www.facebook.com/inetwork.ug The I-Network Dgroup is a platform for ICT Knowledge Sharing --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit [web site]( http://dgroups.org/iicd/i-network/ ) Click [here]( mailto:leave.i-network@dgroups.org ) to unsubscribe The email is intended only for the recipients. The owners of the Dgroups cannot be held responsible for the contents of the email message. You are receiving this message because you are a member of the community I-Network Uganda <https://dgroups.org/iicd/i-network>. A reply to this message will be sent to all members of I-Network Uganda. Reply to sender <kiria(a)i-network.or.ug> | Unsubscribe<leave.i-network(a)dgroups.org> -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY
by Walubengo J 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

@Eng Kariuki, I think i have partly answered this in an earlier post. Basically, if the digital content is within your physical or geographic domain, it is easier to quickly deal with the security breach...e.g by locally implementing shutdown procedures. Ofcourse this may not put the remote criminal in custody, but it may limit his actions if the local servers are the ones he using to perpetrate the crime. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 8:28 PM AST (Arabian) ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk wrote: >Walu please advise.What would the local police do when the cyber criminal is in some distant island? >Sent from my BlackBerry® > >-----Original Message----- >From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> >Sender: "kictanet" > <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 08:46:20 >To: <ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk> >Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY > >@WhiteAfrican, > >I do get your message. But your language might be considered too strong by @BlackAfrican standard and folks may take offense. Check Ali's post on the same - same message, different words :-) > >That said, I think the King @CCK has been caught "naked". Maybe the planned regulation is to make ALL GOVERNMENT data local (which is within the government/regulatory scope to make the call). Or maybe he was misquoted, or maybe I might be trying to hard to do the PR job for CCK... > >@Wambua, you have off late gone completely underground? > >walu. >nb: the benefit of local hosting within the context of cybersecurity was argued on a 1-on-1 between me and Sammy B and we came to some consensus :- that local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, judiciary) some teeth...and by extension this in itself can act as deterrent against would-be cybercriminals. > >I however dont think that this should lead to a decree that everyone MUST host locally because then I will have to give up my jwalu(a)yahoo.com mail account to avoid hosting my mails abroad :-) > > >-------------------------------------------- >On Wed, 11/27/13, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 4:41 PM > > This is the kind of > stupidity that makes you wonder if the people dealing with > the internet regulations and policy at CCK even know what > the internet is. > > > -- > Erik Hersman > > Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK@WhiteAfrican > > On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rad! > <conradakunga(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > Absolutely absurd if this is in > fact true. > How does hosting sites locally mitigated against > cybercrime? > > What business does anyone have dictating to me > where i can and can't host my websites? > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at > 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> > wrote: > > Listers > > The Communications > Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that > may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring > websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight > against cyber crime... > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-… > > I sincerely hope that the DG was > somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to > host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or > mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security > infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host > any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one > locally. > > Can government please focus on > legislation and regulation instead of butting into my > business and telling me where I should host my website?? > > > Ali Hussein > > +254 0770 906375 / 0713 > 601113 > "I fear the day technology will > surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation > of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.… > > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a > multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions > interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The > network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth > and development. > > > > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect > people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't > flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, > do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a > multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions > interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The > network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth > and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect > people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't > flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, > do not market your wares or > qualifications. > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a > multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions > interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > >KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Fwd: The Protection of Personal Information Bill signed into law (South Africa)
by Ali Hussein 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

Listers FYI. Grace, this may be of interest considering that a South African now chairs the AUC. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: David Graham <davgraham(a)deloitte.co.za> > Date: November 28, 2013 at 8:32:16 AM GMT+3 > To: Ali <info(a)alyhussein.com> > Subject: The Protection of Personal Information Bill signed into law > Reply-To: davgraham(a)deloitte.co.za > > > Southern Africa > > Dear Ali > > The Protection of Personal Information Bill was signed into law on 19 November 2013 and published in Government Gazette number GG 37067 on 26 November 2013. > > The commencement provision of the now Protection of Personal Information Act provides that the date on which the Act will come into force will be determined by the President through a proclamation to be published at a later date. > > What this means is that the 1 year grace period provided for in the Act, will only commence on the date announced by the President in the near future. So, does business have to be concerned or not? The fact that the Act is now law, and not merely a bill, is significant. It enables the formation of the regulator and other administrative aspects to gear up for policing the Act. > > The message in this latest move is thus clear: compliance with the Protection of Personal Information Act will soon be required, businesses who can effectively leverage data analysis opportunities, cross border data transfer efficiency and secure outsourced data management relationships while implementing compliance will most certainly have the competitive advantage. > > For more information on when compliance is required, contact: > > Dean Chivers, email: dechiver(a)deloitte.co.za > Tel: +2711 806 5159 > > Daniella Kafouris, email: dkafouris(a)deloitte.co.za > Tel: +2711 209 8101 > > Yours Sincerely > > David Graham Digital Channels Executive: Clients & Industries > Deloitte & Touche > Deloitte Place, Building 8 2nd Floor, The Woodlands, 20 Woodlands Drive, Woodmead, South Africa Private Bag X6, Woodmead, 2052, South Africa > Direct: +27 (0)11 517 4022 l Main: +27 (0)11 806 5000 l Fax: +27 (0)11 388 0194 l Mobile: +27 (0)82 906 7227 > davgraham(a)deloitte.co.za l www.deloitte.com Facebook | Twitter | Deloitte Blog | LinkedIn > > Please consider the environment before printing > > Home | Security | Legal | Privacy > > Deloitte refers to one or more of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Limited, a UK private company limited by guarantee, and its network of member firms, each of which is a legally separate and independent entity. Please see www.deloitte.com/aboutfor a detailed description of the legal structure of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Limited and its member firms. > > "Deloitte" is the brand under which tens of thousands of dedicated professionals in independent firms throughout the world collaborate to provide audit, consulting, financial advisory, risk management, and tax services to selected clients. These firms are members of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Limited (DTTL), a UK private company limited by guarantee. Each member firm provides services in a particular geographic area and is subject to the laws and professional regulations of the particular country or countries in which it operates. DTTL does not itself provide services to clients. DTTL and each DTTL member firm are separate and distinct legal entities, which cannot obligate each other. DTTL and each DTTL member firm are liable only for their own acts or omissions and not those of each other. Each DTTL member firm is structured differently in accordance with national laws, regulations, customary practice, and other factors, and may secure the provision of professional services in its territory through subsidiaries, affiliates, and/or other entities. > > © 2012 Deloitte & Touche. All rights reserved. Member of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Limited > > > > > > Unsubscribe | Update my profile | View PDF | Forward to a friend | Pause subscription > > Email powered by > > This email was sent to info(a)alyhussein.com on 2013-11-28 > Deloitte & Touche Pty(Ltd) is intended for opt in communication only. If you feel this email is unsolicited please report it to us.

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ARE WE ROLLING BACK THE ICT GAINS OF THE LAST 10 YEARS?
by Ali Hussein 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

Bwana CS Incase you missed my last posting on this issue. Listers I little bird mentioned to me today that the ICT Ministry is about to sign the ITRs that Kenya declined to back in Dec 2012. As a member of the delegation that went to Dubai we fought hard to ensure that we didn't sign and that there was adequate representation across Government and the private sector. There were pre consultations both off and online and the CCK actively engaged with other stakeholders. Ultimately there were divergent views and the head of delegation declined to sign the ITRs. At that time I penned a few paragraphs on why it was a good thing that Kenya didn't sign the ITRs. http://www.alyhussein.com/2013/01/why-its-a-good-thing-kenya-didnt-sign-the… I hope that little bird was just that..a rumor. If it is true then I personally appeal to Dr. Matiangi as the head of the Ministry to please update us on this issue. Further more we expect at the very least to be engaged as stakeholders in this space as to the reasons of the turnaround. We hope Daktari that we are not jumping the gun here but as you may well understand we are concerned.. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad

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Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY
by Paul 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

@Walu I think you got it wrong here...read your article again. -----Original Message----- From: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Sent: ‎11/‎27/‎2013 7:48 PM To: "Paul Roy" <roykoikai(a)gmail.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY @WhiteAfrican, I do get your message. But your language might be considered too strong by @BlackAfrican standard and folks may take offense. Check Ali's post on the same - same message, different words :-) That said, I think the King @CCK has been caught "naked". Maybe the planned regulation is to make ALL GOVERNMENT data local (which is within the government/regulatory scope to make the call). Or maybe he was misquoted, or maybe I might be trying to hard to do the PR job for CCK... @Wambua, you have off late gone completely underground? walu. nb: the benefit of local hosting within the context of cybersecurity was argued on a 1-on-1 between me and Sammy B and we came to some consensus :- that local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, judiciary) some teeth...and by extension this in itself can act as deterrent against would-be cybercriminals. I however dont think that this should lead to a decree that everyone MUST host locally because then I will have to give up my jwalu(a)yahoo.com mail account to avoid hosting my mails abroad :-) -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11/27/13, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 4:41 PM This is the kind of stupidity that makes you wonder if the people dealing with the internet regulations and policy at CCK even know what the internet is. -- Erik Hersman Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK@WhiteAfrican On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rad! <conradakunga(a)gmail.com> wrote: Absolutely absurd if this is in fact true. How does hosting sites locally mitigated against cybercrime? What business does anyone have dictating to me where i can and can't host my websites? On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: Listers The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime... http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-… I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally. Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website?? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/roykoikai%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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CCK PUTS PLANS UNDERWAY FOR KENIC DISSOLUTION, 5TH CEO IN SIX YEARS FIRED
by Grace Githaiga 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2013/11/cck-puts-plans-underway-for-kenic-dissolut…

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CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY
by Ali Hussein 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

Listers The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime... http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-… I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally. Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website?? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad

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Celebrating ICT Champions @ 50: ICT Value Awards (ICTVA, 2013)
by Kamotho Njenga 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

Organized by the ICT Association of Kenya (ICTAK), the ICT Value awards aim to recognize the very best contributions in the sector, that have fundamentally defined or continue to shape the ICT industry. It is intended that the nomination process will be as open and transparent as possible. All listers are eligible for the respective awards. Further, all wisdom that aids towards credible output is invited. Comprehensive details as well as the Online Nomination Form are available at www.ictak.or.ke Best of luck as you get your nomination. Kamotho

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DotConnectAfrica Trust attends ICANN 48 International Meeting in Buenos Aires, Argentina
by Gideon 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

Dear listers Please see this update from Buenos Aires, Argentina for your information. http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs123/1102516344150/archive/111580149351… Regards Gideon Rop DotConnectAfrica

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Re: [kictanet] Day 3: Personal Data Protection
by Walubengo J 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

+1, Listers, what more endorsement do you need. Unleash your comments on the AU Cybersecurity Convention that is due to be signed by the President early next year. Lets not make noise after the fact when you have been requested to speak up but kept quiet. On the other hand, government should be ready to explain at a domestic level when and why they feel it necessary to ignore certain Listers input. We want to avoid the Dubai ITU/WCIT standoff :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 5:34 AM AST (Arabian) Fred Matiangi wrote: >Good morning Listers, > >I have been following the on-going discussion of the proposed AU >convention with keen interest and excitement, especially because this is >precisely how we will end up enriching and strengthening it. I pumped into >John Walubengo last evening and proposed that perhaps in a week or two we >should have a brief brainstorm bringing together all interested parties so >we can concretise our 'Kenya Position' on this convention. Further to this >conversation, I asked my colleagues Victor and Eunice at the ICTA and >Francis Wangusi at CCK to explore possibilities of collating all the ideas >emanating from this forum and setting up a sit down to tie up our >discussions a head of the Heads of State Summit in January. > >Grace- I very sincerely appreciate the initiative to drive this discussion >and look forward to further engagement. > >Good day. > >Fred > > >On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com>wrote: > >> *Good morning Listers* >> >> >> *Today, we move onto PART II: PERSONAL DATA PROTECTION and will tackle >> four questions.* >> >> >> *Objectives of this Convention with respect to personal data* >> >> >> >> *Article II – 2:* >> >> *Each Member State of the African Union shall put in place a legal >> framework with a view to establishing a mechanism to combat breaches of >> private life likely to arise from the gathering, processing, transmission, >> storage and use of personal data.* >> >> *The mechanism so established shall ensure that any data processing, in >> whatsoever form, respects the freedoms and fundamental rights of physical >> persons while recognizing the prerogatives of the State, the rights of >> local communities and the target for which the businesses were established.* >> >> >> *Question:* *What is the relevance of this article? What are these state >> prerogatives? And given the increased interest of state surveillance, how >> can states balance respect of FOE while recognising state prerogatives? * >> >> >> *Article II-6, II-7, 11-8, II-11, II-12, II-13 refer to a Protection >> Authority* which is meant to establish standards for data protection. >> Article II – 14 *provides for each Member State of the African Union to >> establish an authority with responsibility to protect personal data. It* *shall >> be an independent administrative authority with the task of ensuring that >> the processing of personal data is conducted in accordance with domestic >> legislations.* >> >> Further, article II-17 states that ‘*Sworn agents may be invited to >> participate in audit missions in accordance with extant provisions in >> Member States of the African Union’.* >> >> >> *Question:* *Considering that this article seems to be tied to the >> Protection Authority, what is its relevance? And who is a ‘sworn >> agent?’ What should this authority look like in terms of its composition? * >> >> >> *Article II – 20:* >> >> *…Members of the protection authority shall not receive instructions from >> any authority in the exercise of their functions. * >> >> *Article II – 21:* >> >> *Member States are engaged to provide the national protection authority >> human, technical and financial resources necessary to accomplish their >> mission.* >> >> >> *Question:* *It appears that this Data Protection Authority is envisaged >> to be fully government supported. Therefore, should we be talking of its >> independence? In what way should this article be framed so that it ensures >> independence of the Authority?* >> >> >> *Article II – 28 to II-34 *outlines six principles governing the >> processing of personal data namely: >> >> Consent and of legitimacy, >> >> Honesty, >> >> Objective, relevance and conservation of processed personal data, >> >> Accuracy, >> >> Transparency and >> >> Confidentiality and security of personal data. >> >> Under each of the specific principles, detailed explanation of how each >> should be undertaken is offered. >> >> >> *Question:* *Is this explanation and detailing of how to undertake each >> necessary in an international (regional) law necessary or needed? Is this >> legislation overkill?* >> >> >> *Lets get your views on data protection concerns.* >> >> >> Rgds >> >> GG >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/fredmatiangi%40gmail.… >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>

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Day 3: Personal Data Protection
by Gideon 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

Dear Dr. Matiangi and Listers, Please find the comments by DotConnectAfrica on the entire Draft African Union Convention on the establishment of a Credible Legal Framework for Cyber Security in Africa. DotConnectAfrica took initiative, analyzed and published these comments to the draft convention over a month ago in October 2013 and circulated it to interested stakeholders. We appreciate the multistakeholder efforts in preparing this convention and look forward to work with everyone in this worthy course. Link to our comments: 1. http://dotafrica.blogspot.com/2013/10/dotconnectafrica-comments-to-draft.ht… 2. http://www.dotconnectafrica.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/DotConnectAfrica… *Article II – 2:* With respect to personal data, state prerogatives must be well defined so as not to breach the rights of a private life online or offline. All activities that arise from the gathering, processing, transmission, storage and use of personal data should be well defined and levels of acceptable access and permissions by individual users properly laid out so as not to create a door for perceived surveillance or activities that take away the personal right of a user *Article II-6, II-7, 11-8, II-11, II-12, II-13 refer to a Protection Authority* Comment 12: These articles define the membership and the constituting mandates of the said ‘Protection authority’ however it should be left to the countries to define the authorities under inbuilt country contributions/laws or bylaws so as not to create a different center of power or parallel agency. Also the selection of the membership to the protection authority should allow composition from all stakeholders and not only government. ‘Sworn Agents’ should be well defined and described, their mode of selection, duties, responsibilities should be open to public accountability and transparency. Regards DotConnectAfrica Trust. > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 02:34:09 +0000 > From: Fred Matiangi <fredmatiangi(a)gmail.com> > To: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 3: Personal Data Protection > Message-ID: > < > CAHqF9HaFpZiNfA8OqedHxn7BN1C0bdzSrXZCo+MbT9TEdR2NKA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Good morning Listers, > > I have been following the on-going discussion of the proposed AU > convention with keen interest and excitement, especially because this is > precisely how we will end up enriching and strengthening it. I pumped into > John Walubengo last evening and proposed that perhaps in a week or two we > should have a brief brainstorm bringing together all interested parties so > we can concretise our 'Kenya Position' on this convention. Further to this > conversation, I asked my colleagues Victor and Eunice at the ICTA and > Francis Wangusi at CCK to explore possibilities of collating all the ideas > emanating from this forum and setting up a sit down to tie up our > discussions a head of the Heads of State Summit in January. > > Grace- I very sincerely appreciate the initiative to drive this discussion > and look forward to further engagement. > > Good day. > > Fred > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com > >wrote: > > > *Good morning Listers* > > > > > > *Today, we move onto PART II: PERSONAL DATA PROTECTION and will tackle > > four questions.* > > > > > > *Objectives of this Convention with respect to personal data* > > > > > > > > *Article II ? 2:* > > > > *Each Member State of the African Union shall put in place a legal > > framework with a view to establishing a mechanism to combat breaches of > > private life likely to arise from the gathering, processing, > transmission, > > storage and use of personal data.* > > > > *The mechanism so established shall ensure that any data processing, in > > whatsoever form, respects the freedoms and fundamental rights of physical > > persons while recognizing the prerogatives of the State, the rights of > > local communities and the target for which the businesses were > established.* > > > > > > *Question:* *What is the relevance of this article? What are these state > > prerogatives? And given the increased interest of state surveillance, how > > can states balance respect of FOE while recognising state prerogatives? * > > > > > > *Article II-6, II-7, 11-8, II-11, II-12, II-13 refer to a Protection > > Authority* which is meant to establish standards for data protection. > > Article II ? 14 *provides for each Member State of the African Union to > > establish an authority with responsibility to protect personal data. > It* *shall > > be an independent administrative authority with the task of ensuring that > > the processing of personal data is conducted in accordance with domestic > > legislations.* > > > > Further, article II-17 states that ?*Sworn agents may be invited to > > participate in audit missions in accordance with extant provisions in > > Member States of the African Union?.* > > > > > > *Question:* *Considering that this article seems to be tied to the > > Protection Authority, what is its relevance? And who is a ?sworn > > agent?? What should this authority look like in terms of its > composition? * > > > > > > *Article II ? 20:* > > > > *?Members of the protection authority shall not receive instructions from > > any authority in the exercise of their functions. * > > > > *Article II ? 21:* > > > > *Member States are engaged to provide the national protection authority > > human, technical and financial resources necessary to accomplish their > > mission.* > > > > > > *Question:* *It appears that this Data Protection Authority is envisaged > > to be fully government supported. Therefore, should we be talking of its > > independence? In what way should this article be framed so that it > ensures > > independence of the Authority?* > > > > > > *Article II ? 28 to II-34 *outlines six principles governing the > > processing of personal data namely: > > > > Consent and of legitimacy, > > > > Honesty, > > > > Objective, relevance and conservation of processed personal data, > > > > Accuracy, > > > > Transparency and > > > > Confidentiality and security of personal data. > > > > Under each of the specific principles, detailed explanation of how each > > should be undertaken is offered. > > > > > > *Question:* *Is this explanation and detailing of how to undertake each > > necessary in an international (regional) law necessary or needed? Is this > > legislation overkill?* > > > > > > *Lets get your views on data protection concerns.* > > > > > > Rgds > > > > GG > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/fredmatiangi%40gmail.… > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, > > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > >

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Day 3: Personal Data Protection
by Grace Githaiga 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

Good morning Listers Today, we move onto PART II: PERSONAL DATA PROTECTION and will tackle four questions. Objectives of this Convention with respect to personal data Article II – 2: Each Member State of the African Union shall put in place a legal framework with a view to establishing a mechanism to combat breaches of private life likely to arise from the gathering, processing, transmission, storage and use of personal data. The mechanism so established shall ensure that any data processing, in whatsoever form, respects the freedoms and fundamental rights of physical persons while recognizing the prerogatives of the State, the rights of local communities and the target for which the businesses were established. Question: What is the relevance of this article? What are these state prerogatives? And given the increased interest of state surveillance, how can states balance respect of FOE while recognising state prerogatives? Article II-6, II-7, 11-8, II-11, II-12, II-13 refer to a Protection Authority which is meant to establish standards for data protection. Article II – 14 provides for each Member State of the African Union to establish an authority with responsibility to protect personal data. It shall be an independent administrative authority with the task of ensuring that the processing of personal data is conducted in accordance with domestic legislations. Further, article II-17 states that ‘Sworn agents may be invited to participate in audit missions in accordance with extant provisions in Member States of the African Union’. Question: Considering that this article seems to be tied to the Protection Authority, what is its relevance? And who is a ‘sworn agent?’ What should this authority look like in terms of its composition? Article II – 20: …Members of the protection authority shall not receive instructions from any authority in the exercise of their functions. Article II – 21: Member States are engaged to provide the national protection authority human, technical and financial resources necessary to accomplish their mission. Question: It appears that this Data Protection Authority is envisaged to be fully government supported. Therefore, should we be talking of its independence? In what way should this article be framed so that it ensures independence of the Authority? Article II – 28 to II-34 outlines six principles governing the processing of personal data namely: Consent and of legitimacy, Honesty, Objective, relevance and conservation of processed personal data, Accuracy, Transparency and Confidentiality and security of personal data. Under each of the specific principles, detailed explanation of how each should be undertaken is offered. Question: Is this explanation and detailing of how to undertake each necessary in an international (regional) law necessary or needed? Is this legislation overkill? Lets get your views on data protection concerns. RgdsGG

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