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Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication
by Ali Hussein 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Waithaka My point exactly. A mix of both sometimes works wonders.. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: > Hussein, > > There is usually a corner reserved for soft-power and persuasion; where the person on the receiving end either makes an honest mistake or simply doesn't know or have the capability to understand how to achieve a certain task. > > Soft-power usually loses its 'power' where the other person is making a conscious decision, knowing very well the conscious decision is wrong and there is no big stick if they continue anyway e.g corruption > > So fighting corruption with soft-power, as an example is largely doomed to fail as we have been doing. > > As regards the organisations, just setting them by themselves is not enough. Indeed we do have many serious organizations already, but they rely too much on soft power. > > If you look at similar industries, such as Banking, they don't shy away from taking GoK, KRA etc to court, if they feel that certain practices are infringing on the rights of their members, such as these http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/views/article_print.php?15293&a=64747&icon=P… > > We should use soft-power knowing very well that we do have a fall back position of taking the powers that be straight on if need be.\\ > > Waithaka Ngigi > A1.iO > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >> Robert and all >> >> I disagree. Sometimes it takes the 'soft' power of such informal groupings to make changes. Yes, we do require from a legal stand point registered Organizations make representation. However I contend that there is space for both. >> >> KICTANET has had some very loud successes in influencing policy and sometimes concrete action for positive change. Cases in point:- >> >> 1. The issue of KeNIC and the uncertainty it faces were first 'aired' here. The jury (or is it the Supreme Court?) is still out on how this will play out. There is an AGM tomorrow by the way... >> >> 2. The issue of Kenya's position in WCIT12 Dubai was extensively debated here and 'forced' the powers that be to take into consideration other stakeholders position besides that of the CCK. >> >> 3. One Robert Yawe's throwing his towel into the ring for Post Master General's position at Posta. Although unsuccessful :) made a major point on what ails Posta. >> >> The list goes on.. >> >> Ali Hussein >> >> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >> >> "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:39 PM, "Gilda Odera" <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> Over to the lurkers – you have heard Robert. Be the change you want. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: robert yawe [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:13 PM >>> To: Gilda Odera >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> @Gilda, >>> >>> Just to reiterate what I said about a certain Presidential candidate, for democracy to be effective we must register as voters and then actually go out and vote. >>> >>> Sitting at home with a valid voters card cannot then be justification to have your opinion heard. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert Yawe >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> Kenya >>> >>> >>> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> >>> To: 'robert yawe' <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2013, 16:59 >>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> @Robert- Trust you to speak the Queen’s English J and thank you for being candid as usual. Now that I get your comment, I partially agree. Yes, the formidable bodies should be consulted or be heard but let us hear comments/advise/opinions from all quarters. Democracy is necessary here Robert. After all, we are communicating on KICTANET as it is right now so it must have some standing J. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: robert yawe [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:04 PM >>> To: Gilda Odera >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> @Gilda, >>> >>> In english, KICTANET has no moral or legal standing to require it be consulted unlike CSK and KIF. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert Yawe >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> Kenya >>> >>> >>> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> >>> To: 'robert yawe' <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2013, 9:34 >>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> @Robert- meaning? Please talk ‘transparently’ so we all understand what you are trying to say. Are you saying it is costly for the CS to engage CSK? He sent an email saying he is noting all comments on this list so let us give him credit for that. Or am I not understanding what you are saying here below? >>> >>> >>> >>> Gilda >>> >>> >>> >>> From: robert yawe [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:22 AM >>> To: Gilda Odera >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> @Gilda, >>> >>> The CS has consulted the industry players who are members of an organised and duly constituted organisation, it goes by the name of CSK or in short Computer Society of Kenya. >>> >>> >>> >>> As one Presidential Candidate found in a very costly manner that the number of friends you have on social media do not convert to valid electoral votes. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is time we all brushed our memory banks and realise that we have been down this road and past this kiosk many times before, unfortunately we have never stopped to have chai na bandika. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> PS. I am sure Dr. Siganga was consulted especially since Victor is a member of the society. >>> >>> >>> >>> "As I cry in the wilderness I pray to be heard" - An Village Madman in exile >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert Yawe >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> Kenya >>> >>> >>> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> >>> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013, 11:55 >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> Listers, >>> >>> I assume that the CS and other powers that be are reading these comments. I >>> wish to urge them, for the sake of this industry which we all know is key to >>> the development of this nation, to do what is right. The ICT Authority >>> requires goodwill of industry players and the best of the best to propel >>> this industry to great heights. This means having an open process of >>> selection where the most suitable candidate will emerge amongst others. Some >>> of those names being touted are indeed very capable but the CS would be >>> doing them injustice if he simply handpicked anyone. Let he/she who is >>> worthy of the job stand up and present himself/herself in a transparent >>> competitive process. I believe a full enlightened board consisting of >>> knowledgable and dedicated persons (not simply well connected ones please) >>> should be in place before the CEO is picked. And if it is a different panel >>> interviewing, it really must consist of persons well versed. We must break >>> away from past practices where a CEO of a parastatal has no respect nor time >>> for the board he/she reports to simply because of owing allegiance to an >>> individual who appointed him/her. This is what ails organizations and in the >>> end you find poor performance and a decline or collapse of an entire sector >>> simply due to in-fighting and insubordination. >>> I am keenly watching how this will transpire. I would like to believe the >>> new government is serious about developing this industry and will therefore >>> do the right thing. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Gilda Odera >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: kictanet >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Edwin Onchari >>> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 6:09 PM >>> To: godera(a)skyweb.co.ke >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> Communication >>> >>> + 1 >>> >>> >>> Edwin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: kictanet >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:06 PM >>> To: Edwin >>> Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 76, Issue 27 >>> >>> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >>> "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> and Technology leadership (Brian Munyao Longwe) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:03:10 +0300 >>> From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> >>> To: Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> >>> Cc: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, >>> "isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> Communication and Technology leadership >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAHSdPfbdD=XRe9qcoe73ikpyfAp8ZHj6vFtBZ7EVr6taPyjEbw(a)mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Interesting to note that in this whole discussion no one seems to >>> mention/consider that ICTA is an amalgamation of KICT Board, Department of >>> e-Government and the Government Information Technology Services (GITS). If >>> continuity is the focus, aren't the heads of any of the other >>> agencies/departments also potential candidates? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Mblayo >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Mr. Walubengo, in broad daylight you are advocating we do a kangaroo >>> > shortlisting, interview, and appointment. :) >>> > >>> > Why would anybody want to participate in the process with the end >>> > result already known? >>> > >>> > ______________________ >>> > Mwendwa Kivuva >>> > twitter.com/lordmwesh >>> > google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh >>> > >>> > >>> > On 6 September 2013 09:12, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> ------------------------------ >>> >> **Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote, >>> >> >>> >> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in >>> >> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of >>> the law. >>> >> ~~~~~~~ >>> >> The unilateral appointment would indeed be "legal" as it is enshrined >>> >> in the Legal notice. However, the clever lawyers would not be >>> >> challenging the appointment (since it would be legal), but they would >>> >> be challenging whether it is constitutional to "legalize" such an >>> >> action of appointing without inviting other Kenyans to >>> >> apply...(discrimination) >>> >> >>> >> Remember that the constitution is the supreme law and any other >>> >> law(Act, Legal Notice, Regulation, etc) that is contradictory to it >>> >> is null and void. Am not a lawyer but I think that is where the >>> >> court battle would be about. In the likely event that the courts find >>> >> that the legal notice is in violation of the constitution, then by >>> >> extension the appointment becomes null and void. >>> >> >>> >> Problem is that this would take time and meanwhile whoever is >>> >> appointed is likely to have his/her hands tied up and cannot transact >>> >> ICT Authority business. Thats why I said, why bother with the risks? >>> >> Just advertise the job, go through the motions and safely arrive at the >>> same destination. >>> >> >>> >> We did this successfully for our Cabinet Sec and PS, I still dont >>> >> understand why it should become difficult for a CEO :-) >>> >> >>> >> walu. >>> >> ------------------------------ >>> >> *From:* Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> >>> >> >>> >> *To:* jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> >> *Cc:* "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 6, 2013 6:27 AM >>> >> >>> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> @Kivuva >>> >> >>> >> You are quite right. >>> >> >>> >> @Walu, I believe the correct phrase is '*The end justifies the >>> >> means'. :) >>> >> * >>> >> >>> >> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in >>> >> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of >>> the law. >>> >> >>> >> Ali Hussein >>> >> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd >>> >> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd >>> >> >>> >> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 >>> >> >>> >> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb >>> >> >>> >> Sent from my iPad >>> >> >>> >> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Because we know who is being targeted for this position, and we know >>> >> his attributes and leadership qualities, and we acknowledge this is >>> >> just a onetime appointment, why don't we discuss the merits and >>> >> de-merits of Dr. Victor Kyalo? >>> >> >>> >> I feel there is something members want to say but are being held back >>> >> by diplomacy. >>> >> >>> >> Lets remember as it has been stated here previously, anybody holding >>> >> this public office will still have to pass the test of LEADERSHIP and >>> >> INTEGRITY as envisioned in the constitution >>> >> >>> >> On 05/09/2013, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Listers >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Sometimes expediency requires that there is continuity and >>> >> institutional >>> >> >>> >> memory carry over to allow for a smooth transition. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> In this particular case the Ag.CEO provides an excellent reason for this. >>> >> He >>> >> >>> >> has the expertise, experience, qualifications and the political >>> >> savvy ness >>> >> >>> >> to navigate this new monster called the ICTA. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> The CS may need to look at constituting a new board though. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I say let the new team move with expediency and judge it by the results. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Ali Hussein >>> >> >>> >> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd >>> >> >>> >> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Sent from my iPad >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Judy M. Muli" <judym.muli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Listers, >>> >> >>> >> What happened to the hookup, to discuss some of these issues and >>> >> forge a >>> >> >>> >> united front. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Judy >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Grace Githaiga >>> >> <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Thanks Walu. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Great analysis. You are right about the need to avoid unnecessary >>> >> >>> >> litigation (read unnecessary negative publicity). Cofek already >>> >> posted >>> >> >>> >> the article on its site and you never know if it is considering >>> >> following >>> >> >>> >> up on the matter. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/253-tired-talk-of-presidenti >>> >> al-executive-orders-and-unacceptable-plain-illegality-of-single-sourc >>> >> ed-ict-authority-boss >>> >> >>> >> . >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I agree with you on the need to advertise this job and still get the >>> >> >>> >> "right man/woman" for it. The CS should not allow the matter to be >>> >> >>> >> determined by the courts. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> May I suggest that you consider this topic for your Nation Blog next >>> >> >>> >> week? This 2010 Constitution. Argh! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Rgds >>> >> >>> >> GG >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 03:12:47 -0700 >>> >> >>> >> From: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >>> >> >>> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> @GG >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I see the comparison - and specifically the fact that the previous >>> >> CEO of >>> >> >>> >> the ICT Board was expected to be unilaterally selected by the Minister. >>> >> >>> >> However, that was then(2006/7). Fast-forward to today (2013) - with >>> >> the >>> >> >>> >> notable development of the new constitution (2010). >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> This thing (Constitution 2010) changed so much - even the President >>> >> today >>> >> >>> >> cannot do stuff his predecessors used to do over a game of golf/beer/etc. >>> >> >>> >> And so it would be the case for the Kenya ICT Authority - one cannot >>> >> just >>> >> >>> >> borrow a previous clause and paste it into a new, bigger and >>> >> different >>> >> >>> >> institution. ICT Authority (2013) is miles apart from ICT board >>> >> (2007) >>> >> >>> >> in form, nature, scope and mandate. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> For example, ICT Board(2007) was an institution with an >>> >> >>> >> "administratively" limited ministerial scope -that is why other >>> >> >>> >> Ministries could afford to ignore them. Today the ICT Authority is an >>> >> >>> >> animal with sweeping powers that cut across Ministries and govt agencies. >>> >> >>> >> The CEO appointment therefore requires and is indeed given a more >>> >> >>> >> rigorous approach in the legal notice. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> What raised the storm is why the need to exempt the 1st CEO from this >>> >> >>> >> rigorous approach? My unsolicited advise would be for the CS to >>> >> ignore >>> >> >>> >> the clause, advertise the job (open it up for everyone) - and still >>> >> get >>> >> >>> >> (his?) the right man/woman for the job. After all, he has or can >>> >> create >>> >> >>> >> the required "magnanimity" (opposite of Tyranny :-) of the numbers >>> >> in >>> >> >>> >> the Board. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> The other route is vulnerable to too much and unnecessary litigation >>> >> that >>> >> >>> >> may cripple the ICT Authority for years before it gets started. E.g >>> >> >>> >> Someone can file a suit to determine whether the contentious clause >>> >> goes >>> >> >>> >> against the constitutional provision for non-discrimination. While >>> >> the >>> >> >>> >> suit is being determined ICT Authority will remain >>> >> crippled/handicapped >>> >> >>> >> for years. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> walu. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> >> >>> >> Cc: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> >> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 2:41 PM >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> @ Walu, >>> >> >>> >> For comparison purposes, see legal notice legal Notice 26 of 2007 >>> >> >>> >> http://www.kenyalaw.org/klr/index.php?id=568 (STATE CORPORATION KENYA >>> >> >>> >> INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BOARD 2007) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >>> >> >>> >> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> >> >>> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >> >>> >> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:13:46 +0000 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Thanks Loise for sharing the legal notice. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> @ Yawe you are right. That is the nature of the notice. You do not >>> >> need >>> >> >>> >> to be subjected to public scrutiny:) (On a light note, it is a pity >>> >> since >>> >> >>> >> I would be interested to know your inside manenos). >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> @ Brian, Walu, and Alice >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I have just skimmed through the notice and in matters of the ICT >>> >> >>> >> Authority appointments (both board and first CEO) it actually gives >>> >> the >>> >> >>> >> CS carte blanche. There may not be a row after all! Maybe some >>> >> mischief >>> >> >>> >> at the drafting process of the notice which ensured that it ignored >>> >> >>> >> article 10 of the constitution which lays emphasis on consulting in >>> >> >>> >> policy making processes. @ Kapiyo, @ Grace Bomu, what are your comments? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Rgds >>> >> >>> >> GG >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:58:31 +0100 >>> >> >>> >> From: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >>> >> >>> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> There goes my opportunity to be appointed without having to jump >>> >> through >>> >> >>> >> hoops that require me to answer questions from my questionable past. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Robert Yawe >>> >> >>> >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> >> >>> >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> >> >>> >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> >> >>> >> Kenya >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> >> >>> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> >> >>> >> Sent: Monday, 2 September 2013, 15:02 >>> >> >>> >> Subject: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> A row is simmering in the Ministry of Information, Communication and >>> >> >>> >> Technology over a law that gives the Cabinet secretary power to make >>> >> >>> >> unilateral appointment. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Executive Order No. 2 of 2013 by President Uhuru Kenyatta on the >>> >> >>> >> reorganisation of government that establishes the Information and >>> >> >>> >> Communications Technology Authority ( ICTA) gives the ICT Cabinet >>> >> >>> >> Secretary power to appoint the CEO of the authority without involving >>> >> the >>> >> >>> >> board. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000092541&story_title=row- >>> >> simmers-over-order-on-new-icta-leadership >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>> >> kictanet mailing list >>> >> >>> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >> >>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40ya >>> >> hoo.co.uk >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>> >> platform >>> >> >>> >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> >> >>> >> regulation. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigiwaithaka%40gmail… >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Regards, > > Waithaka Ngigi > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building > T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > >

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How we are killing our Kenyan ICT Industry, what we could do to revive it!
by Ngigi Waithaka 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Guys, It seems whatever is happening at KICT Authority has caught quite some attention, which is good, as we cannot forever go hiding as if everything is okay, when clearly the status quo remains and only less than 10% of current GoK procurement is for products and services produced locally. I have blogged about the recent happenings here and comments are welcome. http://www.a1.io/a1io_blog/kenyan-ict-industry-old-habits-die-hard/ As regards lobbying for local ICT industry, and for those who were there during #140Friday, a lot needs to be done as currently what we have are just rumblings and subsequent hot-air from the powers that be that our grievances will be addressed. IMO, probably the only way is for the local ICT players to join Kenya Association of Manufacturers (KAM). It is the only body with the experience, resource and drive to piush for adoption and promotion of local industry. Any other bodies such as KITOS/CSK etc that have previously been suggested do not have the experience, knowledge and drive to push our agenda. Infact, if you ask me, they will just be used to ensure the status-quo remains. The second way is to prepare to challenge the status-quo legally. It will cost quite some money, but no one ever said freedom is cheap! We are already meeting amongst a couple of firms with KAM, and I will be pushing for them to allow either corporate and individual membership and use them to articulate our issues. But, bottom line, we cannot let the networks of old that intentionally lock out Kenyan firms from grabbing the bigger chunks of ICT Projects procurement, and especially so that now everything ICT has been centralized at KICT Authority. We are centralizing to gain efficiencies not so that we can centralize corruption. Ngigi Waithaka A1.iO

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Are Counties hindering the spread of Broadband across the country?
by Ali Hussein 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Listers Yesterday the CS ICT was on a diplomacy drive to convince county executives to enable the laying of fibre in their jurisdictions. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Costly+fees+hinder+internet+spread+in+co… While I commend the CS for his drive I fail to understand what's with the Counties. In this day and age how myopic can they get? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb Sent from my iPad

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Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication
by Edwin Onchari 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

+ 1 Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:06 PM To: Edwin Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 76, Issue 27 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication and Technology leadership (Brian Munyao Longwe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:03:10 +0300 From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> Cc: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication and Technology leadership Message-ID: <CAHSdPfbdD=XRe9qcoe73ikpyfAp8ZHj6vFtBZ7EVr6taPyjEbw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Interesting to note that in this whole discussion no one seems to mention/consider that ICTA is an amalgamation of KICT Board, Department of e-Government and the Government Information Technology Services (GITS). If continuity is the focus, aren't the heads of any of the other agencies/departments also potential candidates? Best regards, Mblayo On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> wrote: > Mr. Walubengo, in broad daylight you are advocating we do a kangaroo > shortlisting, interview, and appointment. :) > > Why would anybody want to participate in the process with the end > result already known? > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva > twitter.com/lordmwesh > google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh > > > On 6 September 2013 09:12, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> ------------------------------ >> **Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote, >> >> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in >> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of the law. >> ~~~~~~~ >> The unilateral appointment would indeed be "legal" as it is enshrined >> in the Legal notice. However, the clever lawyers would not be >> challenging the appointment (since it would be legal), but they would >> be challenging whether it is constitutional to "legalize" such an >> action of appointing without inviting other Kenyans to >> apply...(discrimination) >> >> Remember that the constitution is the supreme law and any other >> law(Act, Legal Notice, Regulation, etc) that is contradictory to it >> is null and void. Am not a lawyer but I think that is where the >> court battle would be about. In the likely event that the courts find >> that the legal notice is in violation of the constitution, then by >> extension the appointment becomes null and void. >> >> Problem is that this would take time and meanwhile whoever is >> appointed is likely to have his/her hands tied up and cannot transact >> ICT Authority business. Thats why I said, why bother with the risks? >> Just advertise the job, go through the motions and safely arrive at the same destination. >> >> We did this successfully for our Cabinet Sec and PS, I still dont >> understand why it should become difficult for a CEO :-) >> >> walu. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> >> >> *To:* jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> *Cc:* "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 6, 2013 6:27 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> @Kivuva >> >> You are quite right. >> >> @Walu, I believe the correct phrase is '*The end justifies the >> means'. :) >> * >> >> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in >> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of the law. >> >> Ali Hussein >> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd >> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd >> >> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 >> >> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> wrote: >> >> Because we know who is being targeted for this position, and we know >> his attributes and leadership qualities, and we acknowledge this is >> just a onetime appointment, why don't we discuss the merits and >> de-merits of Dr. Victor Kyalo? >> >> I feel there is something members want to say but are being held back >> by diplomacy. >> >> Lets remember as it has been stated here previously, anybody holding >> this public office will still have to pass the test of LEADERSHIP and >> INTEGRITY as envisioned in the constitution >> >> On 05/09/2013, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >> >> Listers >> >> >> Sometimes expediency requires that there is continuity and >> institutional >> >> memory carry over to allow for a smooth transition. >> >> >> In this particular case the Ag.CEO provides an excellent reason for this. >> He >> >> has the expertise, experience, qualifications and the political >> savvy ness >> >> to navigate this new monster called the ICTA. >> >> >> The CS may need to look at constituting a new board though. >> >> >> I say let the new team move with expediency and judge it by the results. >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> Ali Hussein >> >> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd >> >> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd >> >> >> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 >> >> >> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Judy M. Muli" <judym.muli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Listers, >> >> What happened to the hookup, to discuss some of these issues and >> forge a >> >> united front. >> >> >> Judy >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Grace Githaiga >> <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Walu. >> >> >> Great analysis. You are right about the need to avoid unnecessary >> >> litigation (read unnecessary negative publicity). Cofek already >> posted >> >> the article on its site and you never know if it is considering >> following >> >> up on the matter. >> >> >> http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/253-tired-talk-of-presidenti >> al-executive-orders-and-unacceptable-plain-illegality-of-single-sourc >> ed-ict-authority-boss >> >> . >> >> >> I agree with you on the need to advertise this job and still get the >> >> "right man/woman" for it. The CS should not allow the matter to be >> >> determined by the courts. >> >> >> May I suggest that you consider this topic for your Nation Blog next >> >> week? This 2010 Constitution. Argh! >> >> >> Rgds >> >> GG >> >> >> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 03:12:47 -0700 >> >> From: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> >> @GG >> >> >> I see the comparison - and specifically the fact that the previous >> CEO of >> >> the ICT Board was expected to be unilaterally selected by the Minister. >> >> However, that was then(2006/7). Fast-forward to today (2013) - with >> the >> >> notable development of the new constitution (2010). >> >> >> This thing (Constitution 2010) changed so much - even the President >> today >> >> cannot do stuff his predecessors used to do over a game of golf/beer/etc. >> >> And so it would be the case for the Kenya ICT Authority - one cannot >> just >> >> borrow a previous clause and paste it into a new, bigger and >> different >> >> institution. ICT Authority (2013) is miles apart from ICT board >> (2007) >> >> in form, nature, scope and mandate. >> >> >> For example, ICT Board(2007) was an institution with an >> >> "administratively" limited ministerial scope -that is why other >> >> Ministries could afford to ignore them. Today the ICT Authority is an >> >> animal with sweeping powers that cut across Ministries and govt agencies. >> >> The CEO appointment therefore requires and is indeed given a more >> >> rigorous approach in the legal notice. >> >> >> What raised the storm is why the need to exempt the 1st CEO from this >> >> rigorous approach? My unsolicited advise would be for the CS to >> ignore >> >> the clause, advertise the job (open it up for everyone) - and still >> get >> >> (his?) the right man/woman for the job. After all, he has or can >> create >> >> the required "magnanimity" (opposite of Tyranny :-) of the numbers >> in >> >> the Board. >> >> >> The other route is vulnerable to too much and unnecessary litigation >> that >> >> may cripple the ICT Authority for years before it gets started. E.g >> >> Someone can file a suit to determine whether the contentious clause >> goes >> >> against the constitutional provision for non-discrimination. While >> the >> >> suit is being determined ICT Authority will remain >> crippled/handicapped >> >> for years. >> >> >> walu. >> >> >> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >> >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> >> Cc: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 2:41 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> >> @ Walu, >> >> For comparison purposes, see legal notice legal Notice 26 of 2007 >> >> http://www.kenyalaw.org/klr/index.php?id=568 (STATE CORPORATION KENYA >> >> INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BOARD 2007) >> >> >> From: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >> >> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:13:46 +0000 >> >> >> Thanks Loise for sharing the legal notice. >> >> >> @ Yawe you are right. That is the nature of the notice. You do not >> need >> >> to be subjected to public scrutiny:) (On a light note, it is a pity >> since >> >> I would be interested to know your inside manenos). >> >> >> @ Brian, Walu, and Alice >> >> >> I have just skimmed through the notice and in matters of the ICT >> >> Authority appointments (both board and first CEO) it actually gives >> the >> >> CS carte blanche. There may not be a row after all! Maybe some >> mischief >> >> at the drafting process of the notice which ensured that it ignored >> >> article 10 of the constitution which lays emphasis on consulting in >> >> policy making processes. @ Kapiyo, @ Grace Bomu, what are your comments? >> >> >> Rgds >> >> GG >> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:58:31 +0100 >> >> From: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> There goes my opportunity to be appointed without having to jump >> through >> >> hoops that require me to answer questions from my questionable past. >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Robert Yawe >> >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> >> Kenya >> >> >> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> >> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >> >> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >> Sent: Monday, 2 September 2013, 15:02 >> >> Subject: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> >> A row is simmering in the Ministry of Information, Communication and >> >> Technology over a law that gives the Cabinet secretary power to make >> >> unilateral appointment. >> >> >> Executive Order No. 2 of 2013 by President Uhuru Kenyatta on the >> >> reorganisation of government that establishes the Information and >> >> Communications Technology Authority ( ICTA) gives the ICT Cabinet >> >> Secretary power to appoint the CEO of the authority without involving >> the >> >> board. >> >> >> >> http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000092541&story_title=row- >> simmers-over-order-on-new-icta-leadership >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> kictanet mailing list >> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> >> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40ya >> hoo.co.uk >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform >> >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> >> regulation. 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Fwd: Report of Experts Consultation - Addressing the Challenge of Hate Crimes on the Internet in Kenya
by Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mikewa Ogada <mogada(a)chrips.or.ke> Date: 2013/9/17 Subject: Report of Experts Consultation - Addressing the Challenge of Hate Crimes on the Internet in Kenya To: Mikewa Ogada <mogada(a)chrips.or.ke> Dear Colleagues: **** ** ** On behalf of the Centre for Human Rights and Policy Studies (CHRIPS) and the University of Nairobi’s Centre for Human Rights and Peace (CHRP), I am delighted to share the report of the proceedings of the Experts’ Meeting on Addressing the Challenge of Hate Crimes on the Internet in Kenya, which was held at the Panafric Hotel, Nairobi on 13th August 2013. **** ** ** We take this opportunity to thank all the participants for their enthusiasm and the critical insights and valuable contributions they made to this important, ongoing debate. **** ** ** We are in the process of developing a brief that will draw out the policy implications relating to the issues that emerged at the meeting. We will share it in due course. **** ** ** Yours sincerely, **** ** ** ** ** Mikewa Ogada**** *Programs Coordinator* *Centre for Human Rights and Policy Studies* ** ** ** ** A2 Daphton Court,**** Riverside Drive**** P.O. Box 23748-00100, Nairobi, Kenya**** Tel: +254-725-657597 **** Skype: miki.ogada **** www.chrips.or.ke **** [image: CHRIPS copy]**** ** ** -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu Website: http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu

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Youth and Anonynity Survey: A Youth IGF project.
by Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

Dear Listers, Please see link below. This is a Childnet project that is especially interested in reaching out to 13-18 year olds in this region. The survey closes on 30 September and the results will be shared with participants. You can find translation guides in Arabic, Brazilian Portuguese, German and Spanish at www.youthigfproject.com/global-survey1.html. Thank you. Regards, -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu Website: http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu

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Ditital Publishing & Marketing in Africa 25th, 26th, and 27th Sepr 2013, Nairobi
by Matunda Nyanchama 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

-----FYI-------- Dear All, Please be reminded that the African Publishers Network (APNET) in conjunction with Kenya Publishers Association (KPA) has organized a practical seminar on Digital Publishing and Marketing during the Nairobi Book Fair. This course will cover contemporary issues and technological strides in publishing. Theme: UNVEILING THE DIGITAL EDGE IN PUBLISHING Content: DIGITAL PUBLISHING AND MARKETING IN AFRICA Specific areas: a) Overview of the current/ future trends in Publishing : Bill Rutto – Researcher, Author & Director of Communications at the Council of Governors. b) Digital Rights Management: Dr. Matunda Nyanchama- PHD CISSP – Researcher, focuses on strategy and overall management of business with the core focus being IT, with a key focus in Information Risk Management. c) Intellectual Property Rights and the law in the face of digitization:Prof. Ben Sihanya d) Digital products and platforms: E-Kitabu- MD- Will Curlman e) Digital Publishing- A local case study on digitization:Amolo Ng’weno- MD- Digital Divide Data f) Government policy and framework on digitization: MOE/ KIE- Mr. John Temba Head ICT- Ministry Of Education and Mr Nthamburi of KIE g) Social Media Marketing - Opportunities and Risks: Angela Wachuka- MD- Kwani Trust h) Marketing on a shoe string budget: Jane Kairichi, Partner- Integrated Marketing Solutions- Africa i) Options in the fight against piracy in the Publishing Industry KECOBO- Kenya Copyright Board- Chief Prosecutor - Edward Sigei. Who Should Attend Leaders, including CEOs of publishing houses, Publishing Managers, IT Managers, Researchers, Educationists, Sales Marketing Managers, Editors, & Marketers, Writers, Policy Makers, Education Funders Venue: Emerald Hotel- Krishna Centre- Westlands, Woodvale Grove, off Mpaka Road Dates: 25th, 26th, and 27thSeptember 2013 Time: 9.00 a.m. to 5.30 p.m. Charges - APNET& KPA members: Kshs 8,000 or USD 100 Per Participant - Non-members: Kshs 20,000 or USD 300 Per Participant Charges cover full course attendance, inclusive seminar materials, 2 teas & snacks and lunch for the three days. Deadline for registration and payment: 16th September 2013 Late bookings will attract a 20% surcharge on the applicable fees. There will also be an evening cocktail after the workshop at the Jacaranda hotel sponsored by eKitabu for the invited participants on 27th September 2013, from 6.30 pm. Please contact APNET and KPA secretariat for further details, using the following addresses: Regards, James Odhiambo, Executive Officer, Kenya Publishers Association, P.O. Box 42767-00100, Nairobi. Tel: + 254 2 3752344 Tel: + 254 2 2635498/9 Fax: + 254 2 3754076 Cell: + 254 724 255848begin_of_the_skype_highlighting + 254 724 255848 FREE end_of_the_skype_highlighting E-mail: info(a)kenyapublishers.org Website: www.kenyapublishers.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama(a)aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; http://www.aganoconsulting.com/; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info(a)aganoconsulting.com Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.

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Row simmers over order on new Information
by Edwin Onchari 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

+ 1 Gilda, Am I missing something here? Is there a separate thread where the CS has said that he has only consulted the CSK- and only bound by deliberations from such a meet? What would be wrong if he did? In fact, I am persuaded that he should consult as many of these organizations as possible to broadly inform his train of thought. Bwana CS, consult all "duly registered" organizations and contributors within/out this forum to bring sanity to the sector. Also engage the one firebrand former PS Dr. Ndemo and borrow from his "madness" to take this to the next level. Kitos, KEPSA, etc need to weigh on this one as well. Kind regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:35 AM To: Edwin Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 76, Issue 53 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication (Gilda Odera) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:34:42 +0300 From: "Gilda Odera" <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> To: "'robert yawe'" <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication Message-ID: <019a01ceb439$2a20a0c0$7e61e240$(a)co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" @Robert- meaning? Please talk 'transparently' so we all understand what you are trying to say. Are you saying it is costly for the CS to engage CSK? He sent an email saying he is noting all comments on this list so let us give him credit for that. Or am I not understanding what you are saying here below? Gilda From: robert yawe [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:22 AM To: Gilda Odera Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication @Gilda, The CS has consulted the industry players who are members of an organised and duly constituted organisation, it goes by the name of CSK or in short Computer Society of Kenya. As one Presidential Candidate found in a very costly manner that the number of friends you have on social media do not convert to valid electoral votes. It is time we all brushed our memory banks and realise that we have been down this road and past this kiosk many times before, unfortunately we have never stopped to have chai na bandika. Regards PS. I am sure Dr. Siganga was consulted especially since Victor is a member of the society. "As I cry in the wilderness I pray to be heard" - An Village Madman in exile Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _____ From: Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013, 11:55 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication Listers, I assume that the CS and other powers that be are reading these comments. I wish to urge them, for the sake of this industry which we all know is key to the development of this nation, to do what is right. The ICT Authority requires goodwill of industry players and the best of the best to propel this industry to great heights. This means having an open process of selection where the most suitable candidate will emerge amongst others. Some of those names being touted are indeed very capable but the CS would be doing them injustice if he simply handpicked anyone. Let he/she who is worthy of the job stand up and present himself/herself in a transparent competitive process. I believe a full enlightened board consisting of knowledgable and dedicated persons (not simply well connected ones please) should be in place before the CEO is picked. And if it is a different panel interviewing, it really must consist of persons well versed. We must break away from past practices where a CEO of a parastatal has no respect nor time for the board he/she reports to simply because of owing allegiance to an individual who appointed him/her. This is what ails organizations and in the end you find poor performance and a decline or collapse of an entire sector simply due to in-fighting and insubordination. I am keenly watching how this will transpire. I would like to believe the new government is serious about developing this industry and will therefore do the right thing. Regards, Gilda Odera -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Edwin Onchari Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 6:09 PM To: godera(a)skyweb.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication + 1 Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:06 PM To: Edwin Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 76, Issue 27 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication and Technology leadership (Brian Munyao Longwe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:03:10 +0300 From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> Cc: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication and Technology leadership Message-ID: <CAHSdPfbdD=XRe9qcoe73ikpyfAp8ZHj6vFtBZ7EVr6taPyjEbw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Interesting to note that in this whole discussion no one seems to mention/consider that ICTA is an amalgamation of KICT Board, Department of e-Government and the Government Information Technology Services (GITS). If continuity is the focus, aren't the heads of any of the other agencies/departments also potential candidates? Best regards, Mblayo On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> wrote: > Mr. Walubengo, in broad daylight you are advocating we do a kangaroo > shortlisting, interview, and appointment. :) > > Why would anybody want to participate in the process with the end > result already known? > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva > twitter.com/lordmwesh > google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh > > > On 6 September 2013 09:12, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> ------------------------------ >> **Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote, >> >> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in >> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines >> of the law. >> ~~~~~~~ >> The unilateral appointment would indeed be "legal" as it is enshrined >> in the Legal notice. However, the clever lawyers would not be >> challenging the appointment (since it would be legal), but they would >> be challenging whether it is constitutional to "legalize" such an >> action of appointing without inviting other Kenyans to >> apply...(discrimination) >> >> Remember that the constitution is the supreme law and any other >> law(Act, Legal Notice, Regulation, etc) that is contradictory to it >> is null and void. Am not a lawyer but I think that is where the >> court battle would be about. In the likely event that the courts find >> that the legal notice is in violation of the constitution, then by >> extension the appointment becomes null and void. >> >> Problem is that this would take time and meanwhile whoever is >> appointed is likely to have his/her hands tied up and cannot transact >> ICT Authority business. Thats why I said, why bother with the risks? >> Just advertise the job, go through the motions and safely arrive at >> the same destination. >> >> We did this successfully for our Cabinet Sec and PS, I still dont >> understand why it should become difficult for a CEO :-) >> >> walu. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> >> >> *To:* jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> *Cc:* "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 6, 2013 6:27 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> @Kivuva >> >> You are quite right. >> >> @Walu, I believe the correct phrase is '*The end justifies the >> means'. :) >> * >> >> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in >> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines >> of the law. >> >> Ali Hussein >> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd >> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd >> >> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 >> >> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> wrote: >> >> Because we know who is being targeted for this position, and we know >> his attributes and leadership qualities, and we acknowledge this is >> just a onetime appointment, why don't we discuss the merits and >> de-merits of Dr. Victor Kyalo? >> >> I feel there is something members want to say but are being held back >> by diplomacy. >> >> Lets remember as it has been stated here previously, anybody holding >> this public office will still have to pass the test of LEADERSHIP and >> INTEGRITY as envisioned in the constitution >> >> On 05/09/2013, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >> >> Listers >> >> >> Sometimes expediency requires that there is continuity and >> institutional >> >> memory carry over to allow for a smooth transition. >> >> >> In this particular case the Ag.CEO provides an excellent reason for this. >> He >> >> has the expertise, experience, qualifications and the political savvy >> ness >> >> to navigate this new monster called the ICTA. >> >> >> The CS may need to look at constituting a new board though. >> >> >> I say let the new team move with expediency and judge it by the results. >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> Ali Hussein >> >> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd >> >> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd >> >> >> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 >> >> >> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Judy M. Muli" <judym.muli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Listers, >> >> What happened to the hookup, to discuss some of these issues and >> forge a >> >> united front. >> >> >> Judy >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Grace Githaiga >> <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Walu. >> >> >> Great analysis. You are right about the need to avoid unnecessary >> >> litigation (read unnecessary negative publicity). Cofek already >> posted >> >> the article on its site and you never know if it is considering >> following >> >> up on the matter. >> >> >> http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/253-tired-talk-of-presidenti >> al-executive-orders-and-unacceptable-plain-illegality-of-single-sourc >> ed-ict-authority-boss >> >> . >> >> >> I agree with you on the need to advertise this job and still get the >> >> "right man/woman" for it. The CS should not allow the matter to be >> >> determined by the courts. >> >> >> May I suggest that you consider this topic for your Nation Blog next >> >> week? This 2010 Constitution. Argh! >> >> >> Rgds >> >> GG >> >> >> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 03:12:47 -0700 >> >> From: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> >> @GG >> >> >> I see the comparison - and specifically the fact that the previous >> CEO of >> >> the ICT Board was expected to be unilaterally selected by the Minister. >> >> However, that was then(2006/7). Fast-forward to today (2013) - with >> the >> >> notable development of the new constitution (2010). >> >> >> This thing (Constitution 2010) changed so much - even the President >> today >> >> cannot do stuff his predecessors used to do over a game of golf/beer/etc. >> >> And so it would be the case for the Kenya ICT Authority - one cannot >> just >> >> borrow a previous clause and paste it into a new, bigger and >> different >> >> institution. ICT Authority (2013) is miles apart from ICT board >> (2007) >> >> in form, nature, scope and mandate. >> >> >> For example, ICT Board(2007) was an institution with an >> >> "administratively" limited ministerial scope -that is why other >> >> Ministries could afford to ignore them. Today the ICT Authority is an >> >> animal with sweeping powers that cut across Ministries and govt agencies. >> >> The CEO appointment therefore requires and is indeed given a more >> >> rigorous approach in the legal notice. >> >> >> What raised the storm is why the need to exempt the 1st CEO from this >> >> rigorous approach? My unsolicited advise would be for the CS to >> ignore >> >> the clause, advertise the job (open it up for everyone) - and still >> get >> >> (his?) the right man/woman for the job. After all, he has or can >> create >> >> the required "magnanimity" (opposite of Tyranny :-) of the numbers >> in >> >> the Board. >> >> >> The other route is vulnerable to too much and unnecessary litigation >> that >> >> may cripple the ICT Authority for years before it gets started. E.g >> >> Someone can file a suit to determine whether the contentious clause >> goes >> >> against the constitutional provision for non-discrimination. While >> the >> >> suit is being determined ICT Authority will remain >> crippled/handicapped >> >> for years. >> >> >> walu. >> >> >> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >> >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> >> Cc: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 2:41 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> >> @ Walu, >> >> For comparison purposes, see legal notice legal Notice 26 of 2007 >> >> http://www.kenyalaw.org/klr/index.php?id=568 (STATE CORPORATION KENYA >> >> INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BOARD 2007) >> >> >> From: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >> >> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:13:46 +0000 >> >> >> Thanks Loise for sharing the legal notice. >> >> >> @ Yawe you are right. That is the nature of the notice. You do not >> need >> >> to be subjected to public scrutiny:) (On a light note, it is a pity >> since >> >> I would be interested to know your inside manenos). >> >> >> @ Brian, Walu, and Alice >> >> >> I have just skimmed through the notice and in matters of the ICT >> >> Authority appointments (both board and first CEO) it actually gives >> the >> >> CS carte blanche. There may not be a row after all! Maybe some >> mischief >> >> at the drafting process of the notice which ensured that it ignored >> >> article 10 of the constitution which lays emphasis on consulting in >> >> policy making processes. @ Kapiyo, @ Grace Bomu, what are your comments? >> >> >> Rgds >> >> GG >> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:58:31 +0100 >> >> From: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> There goes my opportunity to be appointed without having to jump >> through >> >> hoops that require me to answer questions from my questionable past. >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Robert Yawe >> >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> >> Kenya >> >> >> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> >> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >> >> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >> Sent: Monday, 2 September 2013, 15:02 >> >> Subject: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >> >> Communication and Technology leadership >> >> >> A row is simmering in the Ministry of Information, Communication and >> >> Technology over a law that gives the Cabinet secretary power to make >> >> unilateral appointment. >> >> >> Executive Order No. 2 of 2013 by President Uhuru Kenyatta on the >> >> reorganisation of government that establishes the Information and >> >> Communications Technology Authority ( ICTA) gives the ICT Cabinet >> >> Secretary power to appoint the CEO of the authority without involving >> the >> >> board. >> >> >> >> http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000092541 <http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000092541&story_title=row-> &story_title=row- >> simmers-over-order-on-new-icta-leadership >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> kictanet mailing list >> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> >> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40ya >> hoo.co.uk >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform >> >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> >> regulation. 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Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication
by Gideon 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

+1 Gilda, There is a lot of benefit in placing transparency and opennes of processes. This determines just how best a project or process perfoms in the future. When transparency exists, then accountability becomes a factor that is managable and therefore the future of that initiative is then adequately protected. Gideon Rop DotConnectAfrica On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:35 PM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication > (Gilda Odera) > 2. Re: ICT Authority; Baptism without conversion (Josiah Mugambi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:40:09 +0300 > From: "Gilda Odera" <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> > To: "'Fred Matiangi'" <fredmatiangi(a)gmail.com> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, > Communication > Message-ID: <010b01ceb3c4$9446c170$bcd44450$(a)co.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Dr.Matiangi, > > I truly appreciate your response and it is encouraging to hear of your > commitment to this sector. I understand transition issues are never too > easy > and wish you the very best as everything unfolds. > > Kind regards, > > Gilda Odera > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Matiangi [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:34 PM > To: Gilda Odera > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, > Communication > > Gilda and all listers, > I have been keenly following all discussions in this forum on the ICTA and > have heard you-really. I can promise you, without any hesitation that we > will all Endeavour to do the right thing. I will extensively address the > matter of the governance of the ICT sector and the role we think ICTA > should > play. As you all know, transitions are very momentous and often disruptive. > We are going through one and we are committed to navigate through it with > enough precision, care and focus on institutionalizing the management of > the > ICT sector. As consultations within and without government continue on this > matter, I appreciate the views expressed in this and other forums and look > forward continued discussion and collaboration with all interested. > Fred > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:55 AM, "Gilda Odera" <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> wrote: > > > Listers, > > > > I assume that the CS and other powers that be are reading these comments. > I > > wish to urge them, for the sake of this industry which we all know is key > to > > the development of this nation, to do what is right. The ICT Authority > > requires goodwill of industry players and the best of the best to propel > > this industry to great heights. This means having an open process of > > selection where the most suitable candidate will emerge amongst others. > Some > > of those names being touted are indeed very capable but the CS would be > > doing them injustice if he simply handpicked anyone. Let he/she who is > > worthy of the job stand up and present himself/herself in a transparent > > competitive process. I believe a full enlightened board consisting of > > knowledgable and dedicated persons (not simply well connected ones > please) > > should be in place before the CEO is picked. And if it is a different > panel > > interviewing, it really must consist of persons well versed. We must > break > > away from past practices where a CEO of a parastatal has no respect nor > time > > for the board he/she reports to simply because of owing allegiance to an > > individual who appointed him/her. This is what ails organizations and in > the > > end you find poor performance and a decline or collapse of an entire > sector > > simply due to in-fighting and insubordination. > > I am keenly watching how this will transpire. I would like to believe the > > new government is serious about developing this industry and will > therefore > > do the right thing. > > > > Regards, > > > > Gilda Odera > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: kictanet > > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > > Of Edwin Onchari > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 6:09 PM > > To: godera(a)skyweb.co.ke > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, > > Communication > > > > + 1 > > > > > > Edwin > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: kictanet > > [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:06 PM > > To: Edwin > > Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 76, Issue 27 > > > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > > "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication > > and Technology leadership (Brian Munyao Longwe) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:03:10 +0300 > > From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> > > To: Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> > > Cc: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, > > "isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, > > Communication and Technology leadership > > Message-ID: > > <CAHSdPfbdD=XRe9qcoe73ikpyfAp8ZHj6vFtBZ7EVr6taPyjEbw(a)mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Interesting to note that in this whole discussion no one seems to > > mention/consider that ICTA is an amalgamation of KICT Board, Department > of > > e-Government and the Government Information Technology Services (GITS). > If > > continuity is the focus, aren't the heads of any of the other > > agencies/departments also potential candidates? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Mblayo > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> > wrote: > > > >> Mr. Walubengo, in broad daylight you are advocating we do a kangaroo > >> shortlisting, interview, and appointment. :) > >> > >> Why would anybody want to participate in the process with the end > >> result already known? > >> > >> ______________________ > >> Mwendwa Kivuva > >> twitter.com/lordmwesh > >> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh > >> > >> > >> On 6 September 2013 09:12, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> **Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote, > >>> > >>> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in > >>> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of > > the law. > >>> ~~~~~~~ > >>> The unilateral appointment would indeed be "legal" as it is enshrined > >>> in the Legal notice. However, the clever lawyers would not be > >>> challenging the appointment (since it would be legal), but they would > >>> be challenging whether it is constitutional to "legalize" such an > >>> action of appointing without inviting other Kenyans to > >>> apply...(discrimination) > >>> > >>> Remember that the constitution is the supreme law and any other > >>> law(Act, Legal Notice, Regulation, etc) that is contradictory to it > >>> is null and void. Am not a lawyer but I think that is where the > >>> court battle would be about. In the likely event that the courts find > >>> that the legal notice is in violation of the constitution, then by > >>> extension the appointment becomes null and void. > >>> > >>> Problem is that this would take time and meanwhile whoever is > >>> appointed is likely to have his/her hands tied up and cannot transact > >>> ICT Authority business. Thats why I said, why bother with the risks? > >>> Just advertise the job, go through the motions and safely arrive at the > > same destination. > >>> > >>> We did this successfully for our Cabinet Sec and PS, I still dont > >>> understand why it should become difficult for a CEO :-) > >>> > >>> walu. > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> *From:* Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> > >>> > >>> *To:* jwalu(a)yahoo.com > >>> *Cc:* "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > >>> *Sent:* Friday, September 6, 2013 6:27 AM > >>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, > >>> Communication and Technology leadership > >>> > >>> @Kivuva > >>> > >>> You are quite right. > >>> > >>> @Walu, I believe the correct phrase is '*The end justifies the > >>> means'. :) > >>> * > >>> > >>> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in > >>> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of > > the law. > >>> > >>> Ali Hussein > >>> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd > >>> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd > >>> > >>> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 > >>> > >>> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Because we know who is being targeted for this position, and we know > >>> his attributes and leadership qualities, and we acknowledge this is > >>> just a onetime appointment, why don't we discuss the merits and > >>> de-merits of Dr. Victor Kyalo? > >>> > >>> I feel there is something members want to say but are being held back > >>> by diplomacy. > >>> > >>> Lets remember as it has been stated here previously, anybody holding > >>> this public office will still have to pass the test of LEADERSHIP and > >>> INTEGRITY as envisioned in the constitution > >>> > >>> On 05/09/2013, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: > >>> > >>> Listers > >>> > >>> > >>> Sometimes expediency requires that there is continuity and > >>> institutional > >>> > >>> memory carry over to allow for a smooth transition. > >>> > >>> > >>> In this particular case the Ag.CEO provides an excellent reason for > this. > >>> He > >>> > >>> has the expertise, experience, qualifications and the political > >>> savvy ness > >>> > >>> to navigate this new monster called the ICTA. > >>> > >>> > >>> The CS may need to look at constituting a new board though. > >>> > >>> > >>> I say let the new team move with expediency and judge it by the > results. > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> > >>> Ali Hussein > >>> > >>> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd > >>> > >>> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd > >>> > >>> > >>> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 > >>> > >>> > >>> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Judy M. Muli" <judym.muli(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Listers, > >>> > >>> What happened to the hookup, to discuss some of these issues and > >>> forge a > >>> > >>> united front. > >>> > >>> > >>> Judy > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Grace Githaiga > >>> <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks Walu. > >>> > >>> > >>> Great analysis. You are right about the need to avoid unnecessary > >>> > >>> litigation (read unnecessary negative publicity). Cofek already > >>> posted > >>> > >>> the article on its site and you never know if it is considering > >>> following > >>> > >>> up on the matter. > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/253-tired-talk-of-presidenti > >>> al-executive-orders-and-unacceptable-plain-illegality-of-single-sourc > >>> ed-ict-authority-boss > >>> > >>> . > >>> > >>> > >>> I agree with you on the need to advertise this job and still get the > >>> > >>> "right man/woman" for it. The CS should not allow the matter to be > >>> > >>> determined by the courts. > >>> > >>> > >>> May I suggest that you consider this topic for your Nation Blog next > >>> > >>> week? This 2010 Constitution. Argh! > >>> > >>> > >>> Rgds > >>> > >>> GG > >>> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 03:12:47 -0700 > >>> > >>> From: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > >>> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, > >>> > >>> Communication and Technology leadership > >>> > >>> To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com > >>> > >>> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> > >>> > >>> @GG > >>> > >>> > >>> I see the comparison - and specifically the fact that the previous > >>> CEO of > >>> > >>> the ICT Board was expected to be unilaterally selected by the Minister. > >>> > >>> However, that was then(2006/7). Fast-forward to today (2013) - with > >>> the > >>> > >>> notable development of the new constitution (2010). > >>> > >>> > >>> This thing (Constitution 2010) changed so much - even the President > >>> today > >>> > >>> cannot do stuff his predecessors used to do over a game of > golf/beer/etc. > >>> > >>> And so it would be the case for the Kenya ICT Authority - one cannot > >>> just > >>> > >>> borrow a previous clause and paste it into a new, bigger and > >>> different > >>> > >>> institution. ICT Authority (2013) is miles apart from ICT board > >>> (2007) > >>> > >>> in form, nature, scope and mandate. > >>> > >>> > >>> For example, ICT Board(2007) was an institution with an > >>> > >>> "administratively" limited ministerial scope -that is why other > >>> > >>> Ministries could afford to ignore them. Today the ICT Authority is an > >>> > >>> animal with sweeping powers that cut across Ministries and govt > agencies. > >>> > >>> The CEO appointment therefore requires and is indeed given a more > >>> > >>> rigorous approach in the legal notice. > >>> > >>> > >>> What raised the storm is why the need to exempt the 1st CEO from this > >>> > >>> rigorous approach? My unsolicited advise would be for the CS to > >>> ignore > >>> > >>> the clause, advertise the job (open it up for everyone) - and still > >>> get > >>> > >>> (his?) the right man/woman for the job. After all, he has or can > >>> create > >>> > >>> the required "magnanimity" (opposite of Tyranny :-) of the numbers > >>> in > >>> > >>> the Board. > >>> > >>> > >>> The other route is vulnerable to too much and unnecessary litigation > >>> that > >>> > >>> may cripple the ICT Authority for years before it gets started. E.g > >>> > >>> Someone can file a suit to determine whether the contentious clause > >>> goes > >>> > >>> against the constitutional provision for non-discrimination. While > >>> the > >>> > >>> suit is being determined ICT Authority will remain > >>> crippled/handicapped > >>> > >>> for years. > >>> > >>> > >>> walu. > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> > >>> > >>> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > >>> > >>> Cc: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > >>> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 2:41 PM > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, > >>> > >>> Communication and Technology leadership > >>> > >>> > >>> @ Walu, > >>> > >>> For comparison purposes, see legal notice legal Notice 26 of 2007 > >>> > >>> http://www.kenyalaw.org/klr/index.php?id=568 (STATE CORPORATION KENYA > >>> > >>> INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BOARD 2007) > >>> > >>> > >>> From: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com > >>> > >>> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk > >>> > >>> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> > >>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, > >>> > >>> Communication and Technology leadership > >>> > >>> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:13:46 +0000 > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks Loise for sharing the legal notice. > >>> > >>> > >>> @ Yawe you are right. That is the nature of the notice. You do not > >>> need > >>> > >>> to be subjected to public scrutiny:) (On a light note, it is a pity > >>> since > >>> > >>> I would be interested to know your inside manenos). > >>> > >>> > >>> @ Brian, Walu, and Alice > >>> > >>> > >>> I have just skimmed through the notice and in matters of the ICT > >>> > >>> Authority appointments (both board and first CEO) it actually gives > >>> the > >>> > >>> CS carte blanche. There may not be a row after all! Maybe some > >>> mischief > >>> > >>> at the drafting process of the notice which ensured that it ignored > >>> > >>> article 10 of the constitution which lays emphasis on consulting in > >>> > >>> policy making processes. @ Kapiyo, @ Grace Bomu, what are your > comments? > >>> > >>> > >>> Rgds > >>> > >>> GG > >>> > >>> > >>> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:58:31 +0100 > >>> > >>> From: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, > >>> > >>> Communication and Technology leadership > >>> > >>> To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com > >>> > >>> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> > >>> There goes my opportunity to be appointed without having to jump > >>> through > >>> > >>> hoops that require me to answer questions from my questionable past. > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Robert Yawe > >>> > >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd > >>> > >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor > >>> > >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > >>> > >>> Kenya > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> > >>> > >>> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk > >>> > >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > >>> > >>> Sent: Monday, 2 September 2013, 15:02 > >>> > >>> Subject: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, > >>> > >>> Communication and Technology leadership > >>> > >>> > >>> A row is simmering in the Ministry of Information, Communication and > >>> > >>> Technology over a law that gives the Cabinet secretary power to make > >>> > >>> unilateral appointment. > >>> > >>> > >>> Executive Order No. 2 of 2013 by President Uhuru Kenyatta on the > >>> > >>> reorganisation of government that establishes the Information and > >>> > >>> Communications Technology Authority ( ICTA) gives the ICT Cabinet > >>> > >>> Secretary power to appoint the CEO of the authority without involving > >>> the > >>> > >>> board. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000092541&story_title=row- > >>> simmers-over-order-on-new-icta-leadership > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> kictanet mailing list > >>> > >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> > >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> > >>> > >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> > >>> > >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40ya > >>> hoo.co.uk > >>> > >>> > >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > >>> platform > >>> > >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > >>> > >>> regulation. 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ICT Authority; Baptism without conversion
by robert yawe 17 Sep '13

17 Sep '13

Hi Listers, It is with a heavy heart that I make this post as those involved are close friends and acquaintances but what has to be done must be done. We recently had a lot of fanfare about the birth of the ICT Authority and it was felt that they would bring a breath of fresh-air into the sector but it seems that all we have is baptism without conversion which makes it a truly PR activity whose only beneficiaries are the graphic designers who will be paid for developing a new logo and printing new stationary. I expected better from the acting CEO in association with a new CS and PS in the related ministry but it seems I expected too much too soon. The ICT Authorities first visible activity has been an advert placed in the newspapers for the installation of an obsolete server (http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/eserverp5/entry/550/) and the delivery of an over priced solution that can easily be installed on the CS's laptop not to mention that a similar application is currently operational at transport ministry. http://www.tendersunlimited.co.ke/services/public-sector/ict-services/11613… To test the currently installed system send an SMS to 22456 with the followin; 1. Check vehicle registration details: type "MVR followed by your vehicle registration number" e.g. "MVR KAP 162F" 2. Check driving license validity/details: type "DLR followed by your 6 digit driving license number" 3. Check TLB details: "TLB followed by the vehicle registration number" 4. Check vehichle inspection details: "type "INS followed by the vehicle registration number" I would have expected that the authority would use this opportunity to implement a truly radical and revolutionary solution that will not only meet the requirements of a single ministerial department, as this one is intended to do, but set the basis for a national cloud solution. Dr. Getao had at one time proposed to carry out a complete ICT audit of the government inventory as the first step to rationalise, centralise and harmonise the government activities but it seems that that remains a pipe dream as can be seen from this advert. From the tender documents it is clear that the amount to be spent is in excess of Kes.1,000,000,000/- (1 Billion) which is roughly the amount spent by Safaricom in setting up its complete cloud infrastructure that is capable of providing solution to the entire East and central African governments, banks and major corporates. It is time to stop this culture of baptisms without conversion as all we end up with are clean sinners. Regards Disclaimer: I have a vested interest in the project as a tax payer, consumer of the solution and a member of the ICT fraternity Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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