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by nancy bosire 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

PLEASE FWRD I need two sales and marketing executives to be paid on commission starting January 5th 2009. my company offers ICT related goods and services. They should preferably be ladies. experience is not a must but a great personality and confidence is a must. please send CV to nancy(a)bluelinesynergy.com -- Sincerely yours, Nancy Bosire Managing Director Blueline Synergy Limited Tel: 020 2317230/29 Mobile: 0721907995 info@bluelinesynergy.com,nancy@bluelinesynergy.com http://www.bluelinesynergy.com Domain Registration.Web Design & Hosting.Software Development.LAN/WAN setup.Maintenance.Projectors. New/Used PCs & Laptops.Computer Accessories.Office Stationary "Your consistent thoughts create your consistent results." "Whatever your mind expects and demands, it will find a way to produce it." - Napoleon Hill Mahatma Gandhi once said:- First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!

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Seasons Greetings & Update from Kenya BPO Society.
by Joseph Ochola 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

Dear Colleague, Seasons greetings from the Kenya BPO & Contact Centre Society. As 2008Draws to an end, we want to take this opportunity to recap on the progress the Society has made during the 2008 year. 1. Marketing and PR. · The marketing and PR Committee drafted a 3 year marketing and PR strategy that will aim at positioning Kenya as a preferred outsourcing destination. Aware of the fact that as a country we face stiff competition from Mauritius, S. Africa and Egypt, the strategy aims to give Kenya a competition edge over these countries. · KBPOCCS also launched the “Outsource2Kenya” Brand on the Month of October which will be used in marketing communications, provide an online platform for outsourcers to place their tenders, Bid for outsourcing tenders and get information on latest industry news. Log on to www.outsource2kenya.co.ke · KBPOCCS played an integral role in organizing Kenya's participation at the recently concluded Call Centre Expo in Birmingham. There was keen interest in offshoring to Kenya, by several large UK corporations such as; Cisco, Barclays UK, Capital Finance among others . The BPO Society is following up on these. The Society also referred interested outsourcers to our website where all our corporate members are listed, so they can get in contact with BPO's in Kenya whom they can discuss the possibilities of outsourcing. · The Marketing Committee has identified some key events for marketing Kenya over the next twelve months. · The Society is developing initiatives to kick start the Domestic Outsourcing industry in Kenya. · Organized one to one meetings with two potential outsourcers who had a chance to visit some of the Local BPO’s and Call Centres. Planned activities for the coming year that will actively involve raising International and Local awareness of Kenya as an offshore call centre destination will consist of; 1. Organizing and Attending International Exhibitions, Conferences and Workshops in regards to BPO and Contact Centre 2. One to One meetings with potential outsourcers 3. Advertising in international trade press 4. Media publicity in both local and international media 5. Knowledge series seminars targeted at various decision makers in the Kenyan Corporate scene. 6. Organizing and facilitating events such as; Entrepreneurship seminars, Training workshops etc. 7. Lobbying Government agencies and Ministries. 8. Joint Venture partnerships with international firms interested in outsourcing deals with Kenya. 2. 2. Training. * The Training Committee of the KBPOCCS has completed developing a Training Competency Framework in order to establish and enforce internationally recognized certifications and skills in the industry. It will be officially launched in the first quarter of 2009. * This will not only be a selling point for Kenya, both among local and international players, but will position the society as the first stop for information concerning accredited training institutions and human resource capacity in this sector. The Training Competency Framework has been aligned with existing International competency frameworks. To achieve this objective, the Training Committee plans to carry out the following activities: 1) Develop a draft TCF for Kenya adapted from internationally recognized certifying bodies 2) Hold a 3-day retreat to review the draft TCF and provide input 3) Review the curriculum currently being offered by BPO/CC training institutions in Kenya and attempt to align this with the draft Kenya Competency Framework; 4) Launch of the TCF 5) Develop a strategy for marketing the TCF to the industry stakeholders 6) Develop a TCF enforcement strategy in conjunction with the Ministry of Higher Education and conduct impact assessments 7) Conduct an assessment of Kenyan organizations to find out the skills/knowledge required for employees to excel in this industry 8) Hold 2 public forums targeting the youth (seeking training) and employers, to educate them of the TCF and present a list of institutions offering certified courses 9) Develop a database of certified personnel, in conjunction with accredited institutions 3. 3. Standards & Ethics. · The KBPOCCS officially launched the Standards and Ethics Draft document in July 2008 with an aim of establishing high standards of ethical business practices. · These standards will ensure that the Country builds a highly skilled workforce for delivering superior customer experiences that will reinforce the brand value. The Society is collaborating with various government agencies as well as strategic international partnerships to ensure that Kenya develops world class standards. · With the above in mind, strict follow up procedures and processes will have to be put in place to monitor the progress of the above mentioned. 4. Other Notable Developments · KBPOCCS successfully lobbied The Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) to reduce the BPO lincense fee from Kshs. 100,000 to Kshs. 10,000. · The KBPOCCS, through constant lobbying to the Government, Kenya ICT Board managed to secure Bandwidth subsidy support that will aim at cushioning the cost of Bandwidth in the country until the fibre optic cable project is complete. THANK YOU for a wonderful and very exciting year. We hope you will to continue being active participants in this growing industry. On behalf of the Chair of the Kenya BPO & Contact Centre Society and the Executive Board, we wish you all HAPPY HOLIDAYS and a WONDERFUL & PROSPEROUS 2009 Kind Regards, Joseph Ochola Executive Officer Kenya BPO & Contact Centre Society. Studio House, along Argwings Kodhek road, 2nd floor E-mail: secretariat(a)kenyabposociety.or.ke Website: www.kenyabposociety.or.ke Tel. No. /020-2391301/ 0722-663176/ 0733-917518 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: joseph.ochola(a)yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/joseph.ochola%40yahoo.…

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by Okulo Anthony 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

Anthony Okulo Okulo & Company Advocates Eden Square Complex PO Box 856-00606 Chiromo Road Westlands Nairobi Tel. 3673004 Fax. 36732323

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Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
by Wainaina Mungai 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

Might we be making a step forward.... I gather all TV stations shall televise the Live Debate on the Communications Bill tonight from 9:30pm The idea is to have Paul Muite, David Makali face off with PS Ndemo, Hon. Poghisio. Maybe we'll reach a middle ground tonight...instead of a trying to identify a "winner". There should be a point when we give an take...and maybe, tonight is the night ;-) WM On 12/17/08, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Gilda, > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> wrote: > >> My greatest concern is that in all this back and forth accusations, the >> baby will well be thrown with the water. >> > ... > > Given that the ICT industry is in dire need of the electronic transaction >> and data protection legal frameworks, amongst many other things in >> the proposed bill, why can't the contentious media issues be removed for >> further discussion so that other things can continue? The ICT industry has >> waited too long for this Bill. It was lumped with the media acts and now >> there is too much at stake. Is it too much to ask the Government to remove >> the contentious media issues from the Bill so the industry does not lose >> more time on this?How will those thousands of jobs be created if there is >> no >> agreement on the Bill. And how will media operate if the Bill is passed >> with >> such contentious issues? >> > > I feel you. > > > >> Can government meet industry players halfway by removing the contentious >> issues and letting the Bill be assented to without these issues so both >> industries do not suffer and delays please. It has to be a give and take. >> > > >From other discussants contributions, it appears that if the (Executive arm > of) government did this it'd be flouting due legislative process. i.e. > breaking the law. I stand to be corrected. > > Happy Holidays > > > >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Mike Theuri <mike.theuri(a)gmail.com> >> *To:* Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> >> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:47 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] >> Kenyacommunications(amendment)Bill: Is media overacting? >> >> Brian, >> >> I hope that the media and other interested parties have taken a cue from >> the recent happenings and will now take time to study and understand the >> bill. Hopefully the media's petition via the PM was concrete and included >> alternative workable proposals. If it did not, the President and anyone >> else >> involved in taking appropriate action will not have much to work with. >> >> I agree that K24 should be commended for demonstrating professionalism and >> leadership. A debate cannot be productive if opposite sides do not engage >> freely and openly, neither can it be helpful if either party is not fully >> informed so as to understand where the other side is coming from. For this >> reason the media would do well to understand the bill not for the famous >> clause but for its provisions and work from that standpoint. >> >> It can also be hoped that all involved will take away valuable lessons on >> the need to be proactive in the legislative process. >> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Mike, >>> >>> I could not agree with you more. What we are witnessing is rabid calls >>> for >>> deletion of a legal clause that has been in existence since 1998, and >>> isn't >>> even part of the proposed amendments - without a proposed alternative. >>> >>> It is abundantly clear that neither the media practitioners, neither the >>> civil society pundits or politicos that are baying in the streets have >>> really taken time to read through any of this legislation, nor consider >>> suitable alternatives. >>> >>> I personally think that this episode will serve as a lesson for many - >>> knee-jerk, reactionary statements that are based on speculation and >>> hyperbole can only lead to confusion and eventually embarassment. >>> >>> I give a thumbs up to the likes of K24 who have taken a very neutral >>> stand >>> and chosen to air both sides of the story and work more towards >>> enlightenment than further fuel the outright lies and misrepresentation >>> that >>> our airwaves have been awash with over the past few days. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Mike Theuri >>> <mike.theuri(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Crystal, >>>> >>>> Actually, the right to assemble, discuss in public and protest was never >>>> taken away by the Patriot act. Numerous protests and marches have taken >>>> place over the Iraq war, Immigration etc since then and have been >>>> widely covered. Indeed if one was pay a visit to the environs of the >>>> White >>>> house, one will find no shortage of protesters demonstrating any number >>>> of >>>> issues from Guantanamo by dressing in orange jump suits and locking >>>> themselves in cages, Darfur, Tibetans acting out torture methods, to >>>> calling the current US administration fascist or for its removal as long >>>> as >>>> they do not interfere with others freedoms by being disruptive. The >>>> Patriot Act still stands to date, however a few of its provisions >>>> have sunset and are no longer in law thanks to a refined legislative >>>> process >>>> that pays attention to constituents views. >>>> >>>> The separation of powers principle is best exemplified in the US. The >>>> Judiciary's independence is one that should be emulated in Kenya. The >>>> fact >>>> that unconstitutional laws can be challenged and struck down by the >>>> courts >>>> is itself a protection against the infringement of citizen and >>>> non-citizens >>>> rights. Take for instance cases such as that of Bin Laden's driver >>>> (Hamdan >>>> v. Rumsfeld) or the 5 Algerian Guantanamo detainees where the US >>>> Government did not win in both cases. The fact that members of congress >>>> have >>>> signaled their intent to restore habeus corpus rights to detainees is in >>>> itself an indication of standing up for principle even when popular >>>> opinion >>>> may not agree with some principles of basic human rights. There is a lot >>>> of >>>> work and reform to be done locally, in ensuring that the different arms >>>> of >>>> Government can be as independent and those who are aggrieved by the >>>> legislature at least have an avenue of resort in which they can place >>>> their >>>> confidence to fairly strike down what could be considered >>>> unconstitutional. >>>> >>>> At the same time excessive freedom and its abuse is dangerous, were >>>> Kenya >>>> the US, elements of the media who engaged in deliberate acts at the >>>> beginning of the year would be in court today being held civilly liable >>>> for >>>> their role in inciting violence that led to the deaths of civilians. >>>> Media >>>> elements that act recklessly and carry inappropriate content would be >>>> paying >>>> hefty fines that could easily bankrupt them if they chose not change >>>> their >>>> ways. Yet we find that even with such regulations, the US media has a >>>> level >>>> of freedom that is not quite paralleled around the world. I believe it >>>> is >>>> clear that the contentious section 88 has always been present, it is not >>>> new, and thus the Government cannot possibly be trying to now use it to >>>> suppress the people's voices. As with every system there need to be >>>> checks >>>> and balances, the media has called for deletion, an approach that faces >>>> legal hurdles, but the media has not been seen to come up with clear cut >>>> alternatives such as amendments that could make it very difficult if not >>>> impossible for section 88 to be abused, these are the checks the media >>>> could >>>> be lobbying for placement in the memorandum. The media fraternity might >>>> not >>>> be law makers but they could certainly spend amounts such as the Ksh. 2m >>>> spent on advertising a prayer meeting to explain in layman terms what >>>> *alternatives* as protections they want to be included in the bill. One >>>> way >>>> or another there will be laws that deal with the media, a reality the >>>> media >>>> should accept and work towards defining rather than wishing the >>>> inevitable >>>> goes away. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Crystal Watley < >>>> crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Patriot Act was established in the United States in light of >>>>> terrorist activities and the Iraqi war to silence any public discussion >>>>> or >>>>> protest. The US government was able to make a list of organizations and >>>>> people they considered to be "terrorists" and to use a variety of means >>>>> powers to contain those they believed to be "dangerous to US >>>>> interests". >>>>> This Act was used to arrest many peaceful protesters, environmental >>>>> activists, and to detain Muslims without trial for extended period of >>>>> time >>>>> at places like Guantanamo Bay. Every democratic government must respect >>>>> human rights. The Patriot Act was a time bound piece of legislature and >>>>> it >>>>> has thus lapsed. Democratic governments should not attempt to use >>>>> legislation to suppress the voice of the people. Kenya is not the only >>>>> country where a minority of the population with vested interests have >>>>> attempted and have often succeeded to dominate and control the >>>>> population. >>>>> We should learn from the lessons of history, rather than repeat the >>>>> same >>>>> mistakes. >>>>> >>>>> Crystal >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:35 PM, <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> David, >>>>>> I thought this UK law would make our section 88 look like an evening >>>>>> game >>>>>> of soccer. From the Independent. >>>>>> >>>>>> 23 November 2003 >>>>>> >>>>>> Sweeping measures to deal with terrorist attacks and other emergencies >>>>>> are >>>>>> to be announced this week, giving the Government power to over-ride >>>>>> civil >>>>>> liberties in times of crisis, and evacuate threatened areas, restrict >>>>>> people's movements and confiscate property. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Civil Contingencies Bill, which covers every kind of disaster from >>>>>> terrorism to the weather, will be the biggest shake-up of emergency >>>>>> laws >>>>>> since the early part of the last century, replacing legislation which >>>>>> saw >>>>>> the UK through a world war and the IRA bombing campaign. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of the proposals in the draft version of the Bill, drawn up in >>>>>> the >>>>>> summer, have alarmed civil rights activists, notably a clause that >>>>>> gives >>>>>> the Government the power to suspend parts or all of the Human Rights >>>>>> Act >>>>>> without a vote by MPs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once an emergency has been proclaimed by the Queen, the Government can >>>>>> order the destruction of property, order people to evacuate an area or >>>>>> ban >>>>>> them from travelling, and "prohibit assemblies of specified kinds" and >>>>>> "other specified activities". >>>>>> >>>>>> If these rules had been in force during the Iraq war, critics say, >>>>>> they >>>>>> could have been used to to ban street demonstrations, making anyone >>>>>> who >>>>>> travelled to protest guilty of a criminal offence. After a major >>>>>> terrorist >>>>>> attack, forums made up of local councils, the emergency services and >>>>>> utility companies would be put in charge of trying to get shattered >>>>>> communities back together. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ndemo. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > Ok. Thanks. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>> > From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:12:04 >>>>>> > To: <dmakali(a)yahoo.com> >>>>>> > Cc: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy >>>>>> > Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya >>>>>> > communications(amendment)Bill: Is media overacting? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > David, >>>>>> > There was a hitch. It will be in all papers tomorrow and will >>>>>> > ensure >>>>>> you >>>>>> > get the soft copy. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Ndemo. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I have treid to find the amended bill online with no success; was >>>>>> >> it >>>>>> >> uploaded as promised? someone please? >>>>>> >> david >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> _______________ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> "If my doctor told me I had only six minutes to live, >>>>>> >> I wouldn't brood. I'd type a little faster." >>>>>> >> â€" Isaac Asimo, Columbian Author and Scientist >>>>>> >> _______________ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> PO Box 3234 >>>>>> >> 00200 Nairobi, Kenya >>>>>> >> cell: +254 722 517 540 >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> --- On Mon, 12/15/08, bitange(a)jambo.co.ke <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya >>>>>> >>> communications(amendment)Bill: Is media overacting? >>>>>> >>> To: dmakali(a)yahoo.com >>>>>> >>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" < >>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>>> >>> Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 1:04 AM >>>>>> >>> Mike, >>>>>> >>> Thank you for your objective views. You know very well >>>>>> >>> that there are >>>>>> >>> thousands of youth out there who have patiently waited for >>>>>> >>> this bill to >>>>>> >>> allow them trade on-line. Now Media calls theirs. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> The outcomes of the Kriegler and Waki would hopefully deal >>>>>> >>> with political >>>>>> >>> impunity. Who will deal with media impunity? In my view >>>>>> >>> we must push >>>>>> >>> this Bill to ensure that electronic media does not continue >>>>>> >>> to corrupt our >>>>>> >>> children's minds. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Ndemo. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> > Dr. Ndemo, >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > I hope that the media note that they are on the wrong >>>>>> >>> path and move to >>>>>> >>> > change their approach. In hindsight they might realize >>>>>> >>> that the issues at >>>>>> >>> > hand could have been tackled differently.The >>>>>> >>> media's most recent actions >>>>>> >>> > only make it more difficult to resolve the very same >>>>>> >>> issues they are >>>>>> >>> > protesting. >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > The Nation's editorial perhaps represents the >>>>>> >>> divergence in views between >>>>>> >>> > the media owners, their supporters and responsible >>>>>> >>> journalists who may >>>>>> >>> > have >>>>>> >>> > seen that things are steering in a dangerous >>>>>> >>> direction. As the matter >>>>>> >>> > drags >>>>>> >>> > on, various elements will try to take advantage and >>>>>> >>> jump onto the >>>>>> >>> > bandwagon >>>>>> >>> > to further certain agendas. It is this catalyst that >>>>>> >>> is worrisome, as >>>>>> >>> > there >>>>>> >>> > is the possibility that just as the media issue has >>>>>> >>> somehow been tied to >>>>>> >>> > economic issues, the media issue could easily be >>>>>> >>> misused by those who have >>>>>> >>> > little to do with the media. >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > The country has many volatile problems that should not >>>>>> >>> be exploited, some >>>>>> >>> > of >>>>>> >>> > those jumping onto the media bandwagon may be seeking >>>>>> >>> to detract from >>>>>> >>> > matters facing them, others have personal agendas in >>>>>> >>> mind that can only >>>>>> >>> > progress if they are disguised as media and economic >>>>>> >>> issues. The media >>>>>> >>> > hopefully is looking at these issues in a responsible >>>>>> >>> manner, will >>>>>> >>> > exercise >>>>>> >>> > diplomacy and engage the Government in a civil way as >>>>>> >>> the best way to >>>>>> >>> > resolve the impasse. There are many Kenyans suffering >>>>>> >>> today from matters >>>>>> >>> > not >>>>>> >>> > within their control, it is a dangerous thing for the >>>>>> >>> media to act in a >>>>>> >>> > way >>>>>> >>> > that could easily stir these masses to non-civil >>>>>> >>> action as measures are >>>>>> >>> > being taken to alleviate these problems. The media has >>>>>> >>> a corporate >>>>>> >>> > responsibility in ensuring that it exhausts all civil >>>>>> >>> means of ensuring >>>>>> >>> > the >>>>>> >>> > matters are resolved. >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > It is encouraging to know that the Government is open >>>>>> >>> for discussion, but >>>>>> >>> > there is only so much that the Government can do on >>>>>> >>> legislative matters. >>>>>> >>> > The >>>>>> >>> > Government can draft, prepare and adjust laws but it >>>>>> >>> cannot pass the same >>>>>> >>> > in >>>>>> >>> > parliament. The media must do more on its own in >>>>>> >>> approaching not just key >>>>>> >>> > leaders but ultimately the legislators who actually >>>>>> >>> vote to pass the same >>>>>> >>> > laws. >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 5:11 PM, >>>>>> >>> <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> >> Thanks Theuri, >>>>>> >>> >> Since Government is open for discussion, diplomacy >>>>>> >>> would yield better >>>>>> >>> >> results. I have seen their action plan which by >>>>>> >>> the way violates cck >>>>>> >>> >> licence agreement it is not the best rout to take. >>>>>> >>> Having spent all >>>>>> >>> >> weekend >>>>>> >>> >> using public resources (frequencies) to propagate >>>>>> >>> violence, they should >>>>>> >>> >> at >>>>>> >>> >> least wait to hear from cck. >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> If you read today's Nation editorial on how to >>>>>> >>> end impunity including >>>>>> >>> >> media >>>>>> >>> >> impunity you wonder if they are the same people >>>>>> >>> inciting the public to >>>>>> >>> >> violence. >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> Ndemo >>>>>> >>> >> Sent from my BlackBerry(R) >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >>> >> From: "Mike Theuri" >>>>>> >>> <mike.theuri(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:19:01 >>>>>> >>> >> To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >>>>>> >>> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy >>>>>> >>> Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya >>>>>> >>> communications >>>>>> >>> >> (amendment)Bill: Is media overacting? >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>> >> kictanet mailing list >>>>>> >>> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >>>>>> >>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>> > This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>> >>> > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >>>>>> >>> > believed to be clean. >>>>>> >>> > --------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>> > "easy access to the world" >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>> >>> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >>>>>> >>> believed to be clean. >>>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>> "easy access to the world" >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>> >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>> >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> This message was sent to: dmakali(a)yahoo.com >>>>>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmakali%40yahoo.com >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>> >> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >>>>>> >> believed to be clean. >>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> "easy access to the world" >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ---------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>> > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >>>>>> > believed to be clean. >>>>>> > --------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > "easy access to the world" >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ---------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>> > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >>>>>> > believed to be clean. >>>>>> > --------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > "easy access to the world" >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >>>>>> believed to be clean. >>>>>> --------------------------------------------- >>>>>> "easy access to the world" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>> >>>>>> This message was sent to: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org >>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafri… >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Crystal "Naliaka" Watley >>>>> Voices of Africa >>>>> crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org >>>>> http://www.voicesofafrica.org/ >>>>> >>>>> "You must be the change you wish to see" - 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GISPA global RFP for bulk purchase of 2 STM1s
by Eric M.K Osiakwan 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

Apologies for crossposting..... Eric M.K Osiakwan Director Internet Research www.internetresearch.com.gh emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 Fax: +233.21.258811 Cell: +233.24.4386792

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This Thing Will Not End Well...
by Bill Kagai 17 Dec '08

17 Dec '08

The Zen Master [He of the liver juggling fame] warned that [sic] this thing [M-PESA] might not end well. One possible reason for this legendary statement was that he knew, unlike in transport, we do not have an equivalent of his 'Michuki Rules' in the ICT sector. In as much as we support the Media fraternity in the concerns they have about the Communications Bill, they ought to understand that there is a whole bunch of legislation which sector players have toiled hard to see it get in to this level of bill making in Kenya. The Media might have reasonable penetration into the public, but our ICT technology is un-matched in terms of penetration. With over 6 million Kenyans directly or indirectly benefiting from money transactions through their cell phones and well over double this number benefiting from communication, it's high time we agreed on this matter. If President-Elect Obama was in Kictanet, he would remind us of the bottom-up approach, where we can collect 6 million signatures of 'kawaida' Kenyans who benefit immensely from services such as M-Pesa to also petition the President on why he should sign this bill with 'Further Ammendments'. If we want 'this thing to end well', at least let us get the ICT Bill signed with a 'Further Ammendment' requesting Parliament to consider the sections the Media has issues with and ofcourse with our whole hearted support to the Media. -- Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Nairobi Stock Exchange Authorised Information Vendor Suite B2, Tetu Court, State House Avenue P. O. Box 20311 - 00200 Nairobi, Kenya Tel. 254 20 272 8332 Fax. Rendered Obsolete S - 1°17'13.8" E - 36°48'22.7" www.mediacorp.co.ke ---

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Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications(amendment)Bill: Is media overacting?
by bitange＠jambo.co.ke 17 Dec '08

17 Dec '08

David, I thought this UK law would make our section 88 look like an evening game of soccer. From the Independent. 23 November 2003 Sweeping measures to deal with terrorist attacks and other emergencies are to be announced this week, giving the Government power to over-ride civil liberties in times of crisis, and evacuate threatened areas, restrict people's movements and confiscate property. The Civil Contingencies Bill, which covers every kind of disaster from terrorism to the weather, will be the biggest shake-up of emergency laws since the early part of the last century, replacing legislation which saw the UK through a world war and the IRA bombing campaign. Some of the proposals in the draft version of the Bill, drawn up in the summer, have alarmed civil rights activists, notably a clause that gives the Government the power to suspend parts or all of the Human Rights Act without a vote by MPs. Once an emergency has been proclaimed by the Queen, the Government can order the destruction of property, order people to evacuate an area or ban them from travelling, and "prohibit assemblies of specified kinds" and "other specified activities". If these rules had been in force during the Iraq war, critics say, they could have been used to to ban street demonstrations, making anyone who travelled to protest guilty of a criminal offence. After a major terrorist attack, forums made up of local councils, the emergency services and utility companies would be put in charge of trying to get shattered communities back together. Ndemo. > Ok. Thanks. > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke > > Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:12:04 > To: <dmakali(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy > Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya > communications(amendment)Bill: Is media overacting? > > > David, > There was a hitch. It will be in all papers tomorrow and will ensure you > get the soft copy. > > > Ndemo. > > > >> >> I have treid to find the amended bill online with no success; was it >> uploaded as promised? someone please? >> david >> >> >> _______________ >> >> "If my doctor told me I had only six minutes to live, >> I wouldn't brood. I'd type a little faster." >> â Isaac Asimo, Columbian Author and Scientist >> _______________ >> >> PO Box 3234 >> 00200 Nairobi, Kenya >> cell: +254 722 517 540 >> >> >> --- On Mon, 12/15/08, bitange(a)jambo.co.ke <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya >>> communications(amendment)Bill: Is media overacting? >>> To: dmakali(a)yahoo.com >>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 1:04 AM >>> Mike, >>> Thank you for your objective views. You know very well >>> that there are >>> thousands of youth out there who have patiently waited for >>> this bill to >>> allow them trade on-line. Now Media calls theirs. >>> >>> The outcomes of the Kriegler and Waki would hopefully deal >>> with political >>> impunity. Who will deal with media impunity? In my view >>> we must push >>> this Bill to ensure that electronic media does not continue >>> to corrupt our >>> children's minds. >>> >>> Ndemo. >>> >>> >>> > Dr. Ndemo, >>> > >>> > I hope that the media note that they are on the wrong >>> path and move to >>> > change their approach. In hindsight they might realize >>> that the issues at >>> > hand could have been tackled differently.The >>> media's most recent actions >>> > only make it more difficult to resolve the very same >>> issues they are >>> > protesting. >>> > >>> > The Nation's editorial perhaps represents the >>> divergence in views between >>> > the media owners, their supporters and responsible >>> journalists who may >>> > have >>> > seen that things are steering in a dangerous >>> direction. As the matter >>> > drags >>> > on, various elements will try to take advantage and >>> jump onto the >>> > bandwagon >>> > to further certain agendas. It is this catalyst that >>> is worrisome, as >>> > there >>> > is the possibility that just as the media issue has >>> somehow been tied to >>> > economic issues, the media issue could easily be >>> misused by those who have >>> > little to do with the media. >>> > >>> > The country has many volatile problems that should not >>> be exploited, some >>> > of >>> > those jumping onto the media bandwagon may be seeking >>> to detract from >>> > matters facing them, others have personal agendas in >>> mind that can only >>> > progress if they are disguised as media and economic >>> issues. The media >>> > hopefully is looking at these issues in a responsible >>> manner, will >>> > exercise >>> > diplomacy and engage the Government in a civil way as >>> the best way to >>> > resolve the impasse. There are many Kenyans suffering >>> today from matters >>> > not >>> > within their control, it is a dangerous thing for the >>> media to act in a >>> > way >>> > that could easily stir these masses to non-civil >>> action as measures are >>> > being taken to alleviate these problems. The media has >>> a corporate >>> > responsibility in ensuring that it exhausts all civil >>> means of ensuring >>> > the >>> > matters are resolved. >>> > >>> > It is encouraging to know that the Government is open >>> for discussion, but >>> > there is only so much that the Government can do on >>> legislative matters. >>> > The >>> > Government can draft, prepare and adjust laws but it >>> cannot pass the same >>> > in >>> > parliament. The media must do more on its own in >>> approaching not just key >>> > leaders but ultimately the legislators who actually >>> vote to pass the same >>> > laws. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 5:11 PM, >>> <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Thanks Theuri, >>> >> Since Government is open for discussion, diplomacy >>> would yield better >>> >> results. I have seen their action plan which by >>> the way violates cck >>> >> licence agreement it is not the best rout to take. >>> Having spent all >>> >> weekend >>> >> using public resources (frequencies) to propagate >>> violence, they should >>> >> at >>> >> least wait to hear from cck. >>> >> >>> >> If you read today's Nation editorial on how to >>> end impunity including >>> >> media >>> >> impunity you wonder if they are the same people >>> inciting the public to >>> >> violence. >>> >> >>> >> Ndemo >>> >> Sent from my BlackBerry(R) >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: "Mike Theuri" >>> <mike.theuri(a)gmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:19:01 >>> >> To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >>> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy >>> Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya >>> communications >>> >> (amendment)Bill: Is media overacting? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> kictanet mailing list >>> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >> >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >> >>> >> This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> >> >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------- >>> > This message has been scanned for viruses and >>> > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >>> > believed to be clean. >>> > --------------------------------------------- >>> > "easy access to the world" >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------- >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >>> believed to be clean. >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> "easy access to the world" >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> This message was sent to: dmakali(a)yahoo.com >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmakali%40yahoo.com >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> --------------------------------------------- >> "easy access to the world" >> >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world"

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The ICT Bill, Freedom, and Democracy
by Crystal Watley 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

A free and fair media is a necessary element in any democracy. The press is the watchdog of the government. They ensure that the truth be told. The government should have no power in a democracy to control news outlets. If the bill is signed the government is essentially stealing the voice of the people so they will be able to declare a "state of emergency" when it is convenient for them. Giving the government a gag hold on the media's ability to report the truth. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights written 10 December 1948 contains two articles which are in direct opposition to Article 88 *Article 19.* Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. *Article 20.* (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. (2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association. The government already bears the right to legislate the process of broadcasting and many aspects of the bill are enlightened and will serve us well in the future, but it is necessary that it is not passed in its current form. As human beings and as Kenyan citizens we are born with the right to voice our opinions, thoughts, feelings, and demands. Is Kenya is a democracy in the Liberal sense? Then it must be bound by the tenets of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, one of the philosophical fathers of the legislative democracy. The current constitution and rule of law is an altered copy of the democratic system of government in the United Kingdom whose constitutions and political thought stem in part from his writings. In the Social Contract by Rousseau he states that "Nothing is more dangerous than influence of private interests on public affairs and abuse of the laws of the government is LESS evil than the corruption of the legislator, which is the infallible result of the pursuit of private interests." He continues that "there is no government so subject to civil wars and internal agitations then the democratic or popular, because there is none which tends so strongly and so constantly to change its form, one who demands more vigilance and courage to be maintained in its own form. It is especially in this constitution that the citizen should arm himself with strength and steadfastness, and every day of his life from the bottom of his heart what a virtuous Palatine said in the "Diet of Poland"; Malo Periculosam libertatem quam quietum seritium." This translates into English as I prefer a perilous freedom to a peaceful slavery. In Swahili - heri kupigania uhuru kuliko amani utumuani! Crystal Kigoni Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development 2008/12/15 Moto Baridi <motobaridi(a)motobaridi.com> > next thing, they'll require ISP's to block sites that include any > "offensive" text or image. > Did you just search for "paedophile" in Wikipedia? > *"Sorry. The page you requested has been deemed inappropriate by > parliament and shall not be displayed. If you have any queries, please > contact your MP."* > then they'll storm your house and confiscate those Nigerian movies because > of that barely-visible 1.2 sec bedroom scene. > this is the first step on the slippery slope towards *gov't-sponsored* net > censorship. > unfortunately, even where it has been implemented by people who understand > much > more about these things,it has failed miserably in ALL instances. > when will people ever learn from the painful experiences of others (e.g. > Australia)?? > > yours cynically, > [motobaridi] > [carpe noctem] > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks(a)my.co.ke > http://ole.kenic.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Blog http://skunkworks-ke.blogspot.com > Beta Blog http://blog.my.co.ke > Get Skunkworks RSS Feeds: http://www.jahazi.com/rss/ > -- Crystal "Naliaka" Watley Voices of Africa crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org http://www.voicesofafrica.org/ "You must be the change you wish to see" - Gandhi

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Stakeholders
by Lobore Junior 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

Guys, Who are Stakeholder? insofar as this media bill is concern ? does it only affect the operations of MP's and media owners ?, are leaving out others , Oh yes.and I have always reiterated that Nairobi is not kenya but part of it and isues that affects all kenya should be given enough time. MP's should consult their constituents on such crucial matters.. by the way this is not the first time, this guys are failing us. its becoming routine. back to my questions, who are the stakeholders? Regards. Loa.

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KCA Ammendment, moving forward
by Harry Hare 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

Dear All, I think it will add a lot of value if people paused for a bit and spend sometime to educate themselves on the clauses of the bill before commenting on it. Making suggestions and comments based on inaccurate media reports will not add value to this debate. I think what we are seeing is the complexity of legislating in a converged environment. As much as technologies have converged, the legal environment is yet to catch up and so are the stakeholders. Those in the know have been advising that the bill has too much scope and therefore too many stakeholders making it very difficult to steer through with all the stakeholders maintaining interest and therefore participate fully in the consultations. For instance, the ICT stakeholders want the bill through because it makes sense to them, but not our brothers and sisters from the forth estate. So how do we move forward? I think, we need to convince our media colleagues that there is no malice in the bill and they are not targeted. Let the President sign the bill in its current form but agree on a programme for an immediate amendment (just like the proposed programme on the e-Transactions section), pulling out all the media/broadcast clauses into a separate bill. So the sector will then have 3 separate bills, the Kenya Communication Amendment Bill, the e-Transactions Bill and the Media Bill. The convergence route is trendy and interesting but the reality at the moment is, we may not be able to effectively engage all the stakeholders and have a law that cuts across everything, which unfortunately is the nature of ICT. Kindest Regards Harry African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House : : 604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : : C +254 725 650044 Training : : Research : : Consultancy

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