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'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL'
by Dorcas Muthoni 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' If you don't eat or stay over, you could fly to Hong Kong and download 100 gigabytes of data from the Internet, fly back to South Africa and pay less than if you were to download that amount of information using Telkom's ADSL service. Even taking into account the duration of the return flight, you could be back in South Africa days before you could complete the download here. This is according to Durban software developer Stuart Gunter, who has posted on an Internet forum the findings of an investigation that show just how internationally uncompetitive Telkom's ADSL service is compared to the rest of the world. For the rest of the story visit: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn200511140627…

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Fwd: Re: [Kictanet] Desired Structure Summary
by alice＠apc.org 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Hi All Just a reminder that Ben Sihanya had begun some preliminary work on KICTANet registration/structure. Something to help continue our discussions regarding registration of the network thanks alice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <innovativelawyer(a)wananchi.com> > To: "Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet" <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:34 PM > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Kictanet] Desired Structure Summary > > >> Replying on the difference between a trust and a foundation and without >> prejudice. >> >> Please find attached. >> >> Regards. >> >> Ben Sihanya >> >> Grace M. >> ICT Programme- IL >> >> Angela W >> ICT Programme- IL >> >> Hi All, >>> >>> Here are my views and some of KIF's views. >>> >>> 1. I think membership should be restricted to legal >>> organisations(entities)and not individuals. >>> >>> 2. There should be some norminal registration fee, but >>> more importantly, we should come up with a membership >>> charter that spells out values and privileges etc.. >>> >>> 3. I suggest that we should expand the mission to >>> include WORKING TOGEHTER TO ACHIEVE THE VSIION IN THE >>> ICT POLICY >>> >>> 4. Can Ben siyahanya or any other lawyer explain to us >>> what the difference between a trust and a foundation >>> is. >>> >>> Speaking for KIF, we are all for KICTANET and as you >>> all know, we will continue leading the ICT convention. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Charles Nduati >>> --- Florence Etta <Fetta(a)idrc.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >Not sure if the first email I sent out as Alias got >>>> sent out but here it >>>> >is again. >>>> >In this email I will try to summarize the picture >>>> that emerged by the end >>>> >of last week's discussion on the desired structure >>>> for KICTANet. >>>> > >>>> >We seem to have suggestions as follows: >>>> > >>>> >1Mission: " Working together" (Waudo) >>>> > >>>> >2 Objectives: As suggested (Florence,Alice and >>>> Nkuuhe) >>>> > >>>> >3 Organisational type: Foundation/Trust (Brian) >>>> > >>>> >4 Name of Trust/Foundation: Trust (for) >>>> KICTANet/KICTANet >>>> >Foundation/KICTANet Trust >>>> > >>>> >5 Trustess?? 5-7 Organisations with clout and >>>> respect in Kenya >>>> > >>>> >6 Organisational Plan: Lean (Rigia, Harry, Mucheru) >>>> small secretariat say >>>> >3-person at any one time? Volunteers? Interns? >>>> > >>>> >7 Activities/Workplan As agreed at July 29th >>>> meeting? Others? >>>> > >>>> >We need to agree about the membership as well as >>>> membership >>>> >managemnet/plan. So for the rest of this week it >>>> would be good to respond >>>> >to these two issues. >>>> > >>>> >Specifically >>>> >1) who would you say qualifies for membership in >>>> this network? and >>>> > >>>> >2) how can membership be qualified or when does a >>>> member fail to be a member? >>>> > >>>> >This discussion will last only to the end of this >>>> week. >>>> > >>>> >Thanks and cheers, >>>> > >>>> >FE >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >To help you stay safe and secure online, we've >>>> developed the all new >>>> >>>><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/security_centre/*http://uk.…>Yahoo! >>>> >>>> >Security Centre. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >>>> http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>> >>> >>> CHARLES N. NDUATI >>> EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR >>> KENYA ICT FEDERATION (ICT BOARD OF KENYA PRIVATE SECTOR ALLIANCE) >>> 11th FLOOR, BRUCE HOUSE, KAUNDA STREET >>> P. O. BOX 79324-00200 >>> NAIROBI KENYA >>> TEL: 254020-317996/251438/253847 >>> FAX: 254020-221091 >>> MOBILE:254-722728815 >>> EMIAL:charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk >>> OFFICE EMAIL:info@kif.or.ke >>> www.kif.or.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with >>> voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >>> http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >> http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >

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Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL'
by John Walubengo 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Aiih! Is this true or money has been poured to tarnish an otherwise good name of TKL? any comment from Rukaria? Eng. Kinoti? Eng. Senaji? walu. >>> Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> 11/14/05 10:52am >>> 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' If you don't eat or stay over, you could fly to Hong Kong and download 100 gigabytes of data from the Internet, fly back to South Africa and pay less than if you were to download that amount of information using Telkom's ADSL service. Even taking into account the duration of the return flight, you could be back in South Africa days before you could complete the download here. This is according to Durban software developer Stuart Gunter, who has posted on an Internet forum the findings of an investigation that show just how internationally uncompetitive Telkom's ADSL service is compared to the rest of the world. For the rest of the story visit: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn200511140627…

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Re: [Kictanet] A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap betweenthe Information Society and Susta
by John Walubengo 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Wainaina, might u have the .pdf? My internet download speeds are hopelessly frustrating my download. walu. >>> "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org> 11/12/05 06:18pm >>> A new book of interest to Kenyans. ========================== TITLE: A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap between the Information Society and Sustainable Development. AUTHORS: Terri Willard, Maja Andjelkovic, Steve Vosloo, Wainaina Mungai, Margarita Salas, Anusha Lall, Atanu Garai, Diogo André de Assumpção, Amira Sobeih, Source: http://www.iisd.org/publications/pub.aspx?pno=740 In "A Developing Connection," seven young researchers from six countries look at the emerging relationship between sustainable development and the information society. The potential of information and communications technology to contribute to a more sustainable world is limitless. The challenge is to bring the policy communities together and help them understand the links. In this volume, some important challenges are outlined*and some important examples of success are highlighted. Download for free * English (3,279 kb) - http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2005/networks_dev_connection.pdf Description: Book, 220 pages Copyright: IISD 2005 --- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Re: Nominating Committee Announces Final Selections for Key LeadershipPositions within ICANN
by John Walubengo 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Congrats {yet again ;-)} to both Alice and Njeri, Looks like the sky is truly not a limit.... walu. >>> "waudo siganga" <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> 11/13/05 01:14pm >>> Congratulations Njeri, Wanjira. This is a big honor but also much hard work ahead. I was with George Sadowsky, Chair NOMMCOM, and Marylyn Cade on the same flight yesterday and they did not break the good news until I saw your mail this morning. Best wishes. Waudo Siganga At WSIS Tunis On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:17:01 +0300, alice(a)apc.org said: > FYI. > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Nominating Committee Announces Final Selections for Key Leadership > >> Positions within ICANN > >> > >> http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-04nov05.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> 4 November 2005 > >> > >> After a thorough period of outreach, consultation, recruitment, and > >> evaluation, the Nominating Committee (NomCom) of the Internet Corporation > >> for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) announced today its final > >> selection of four 'slates' of Nominees for four of ICANN's leadership > >> bodies: the Board of Directors, the Council of the Country Code Names > >> Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Council of the Generic Names > >> Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Interim At Large Advisory > >> Committee (ALAC). The Nominees will join the already seated members of > >> these bodies on 4 December 2005 at the conclusion of the Annual General > >> Meeting of the ICANN in Vancouver, Canada. > >> > >> ICANN is a not-for--profit organization responsible for coordinating the > >> global Internet's systems of unique identifiers, including the systems of > >> domain names and numeric addresses that are used to reach all computers > >> on the Internet. ICANN's mission is to ensure the stable and secure > >> operation of these unique identifier systems, which are vital to the > >> Internet's operation. In addition, ICANN coordinates policy development > >> related to these technical functions. > >> > >> "We are pleased that excellent candidates from all five geographic > >> regions participated in this third NomCom process," said Nominating > >> Committee Chair and spokesperson George Sadowsky. "Such participation > >> reflects the Internet community's considerable reserve of talent, > >> experience, and willingness to undertake these volunteer leadership roles > >> essential to ICANN's evolution and continued technical coordination on > >> behalf of the entire global Internet user community." > >> In response to its Formal Call of 22 April 2005, the NomCom received 72 > >> Statements of Interest and selected 8 outstanding individuals for > >> staggered terms in these leadership roles in ICANN. The terms range from > >> twenty-four to thirty-six months in length. Two individuals were selected > >> to serve on the Board of Directors; three individuals were selected to > >> fill seats designated for individuals from the Latin America, Asia > >> Pacific and African regions on the Interim At-Large Advisory Committee > >> (which coordinates participation by individual Internet users in ICANN's > >> activities); one individual was selected for the Council of the Country > >> Code Names Supporting Organization (which administers and coordinates the > >> affairs of the ccNSO and manages the policy development process of the > >> ccNSO); and two individuals were selected for the Council of the Generic > >> Names Supporting Organization (which develops policy concerning domain > >> names in generic top-level domains such as .com, .net, .org, .info, and > >> .biz). > >> > >> The NomCom was asked to find high-caliber, experienced, open-minded men > >> and women with integrity, sound judgment, and objectivity. "The committee > >> focused on the careful selection of slates of candidates whose skills and > >> perspectives complemented each other and who fulfilled the ICANN criteria > >> and eligibility requirements for each of the four roles to be filled, > >> keeping all the candidates under consideration until the final slates > >> were chosen," Sadowsky explained. > >> > >> Through these strategies the NomCom pursued its dual charge: to balance > >> the ICANN leadership selection processes which are based on Supporting > >> Organizations and Constituencies and to help ensure that ICANN can > >> benefit from the leadership of the men and women of the highest integrity > >> and capability who place the interest of the global Internet community > >> ahead of any particular interests. These carefully selected slates will > >> help ICANN ensure functional, cultural, and geographic diversity in its > >> policy development and decision-making as the Internet itself evolves. > >> > >> The Nominating Committee: > >> > >> An independent Nominating Committee is a key element of the ICANN > >> structure. It is composed of a diverse set of individuals chosen by the > >> groups and entities that make up ICANN. The NomCom is charged to act in > >> the interests of the global Internet community rather than in accord with > >> specific interests. On a long term basis, the committee is presently > >> responsible for selecting 8 of 15 Board Directors, 5 of 15 Interim ALAC > >> Members, 3 of 18 ccNSO Council Members and 3 of 15 GNSO Council Members. > >> In the current process, 8 of these positions needed to be filled. > >> > >> For more information about the Nominating Committee, its members, the > >> formal call for statements of interest and its procedures, please visit > >> its web page at http://www.icann.org/committees/nom-comm/. Further > >> questions or requests for information can be sent via e-mail to > >> nomcom-coordinator(a)icann.org. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > --- > Submitted by: alice(a)apc.org 2005-11-12 11:22:28 EST5 > (Please reply to original submitter for private communication) > --- > You are currently subscribed to kiplist-cl as: [emailsignet(a)mailcan.com] > To unsubscribe, forward this message to > %%email.unsub%% -- waudo siganga emailsignet(a)mailcan.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html --- Submitted by: Waudo Siganga - (Int. address) <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> 2005-11-13 05:20:08 EST5 (Please reply to original submitter for private communication) --- You are currently subscribed to kiplist-cl as: [jwalubengo(a)kcct.ac.ke] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-kiplist-cl-102682Q(a)lyris.idrc.ca

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A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap between the Information Society and Sustainable Development.
by Wainaina Mungai 12 Nov '05

12 Nov '05

A new book of interest to Kenyans. ========================== TITLE: A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap between the Information Society and Sustainable Development. AUTHORS: Terri Willard, Maja Andjelkovic, Steve Vosloo, Wainaina Mungai, Margarita Salas, Anusha Lall, Atanu Garai, Diogo André de Assumpção, Amira Sobeih, Source: http://www.iisd.org/publications/pub.aspx?pno=740 In "A Developing Connection," seven young researchers from six countries look at the emerging relationship between sustainable development and the information society. The potential of information and communications technology to contribute to a more sustainable world is limitless. The challenge is to bring the policy communities together and help them understand the links. In this volume, some important challenges are outlinedand some important examples of success are highlighted. Download for free * English (3,279 kb) - http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2005/networks_dev_connection.pdf Description: Book, 220 pages Copyright: IISD 2005 --- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.

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Technologies MUST be made safe for Children - No excuses
by Alex Gakuru 12 Nov '05

12 Nov '05

FYI, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nava Gilad (by way of Terry Weigler<tweigler(a)isoc.org>)" <gilad_n(a)netvision.net.il> To: <chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: [Chapter-delegates] The Internet Pavilion at WSIS in Tunis > Dear David McAuley and Terry Weigler, > Thank you for the invitation to visit the Internet Pavilion at WSIS-Tunis > which I gladly accept. > ISOC-IL President, Dr. Amir Etziony and myself are members of the Israeli > delegation to WSIS-Tunis and will be leading the panel discussion on > "Safer Internet for Children" on Nov. 16th 12:00-13:30 at ICT4All > Exhibition, Conference room Expo6 , the second event which I chair is on > "e-Inclusion and bridging the digital divide in Israel" , where Dr. Etziony > will present ISOC-IL Task Groups established for that purpose , on Nov. > 15th 12:00-13:30 at ICT4All Exhibition, Conference room Expo4 > For Further details please visit: > www.isoc.org.il/wsis > > It would be greatly appreciated if you could send again our invitation to > all Chapter delegates so those who come to WSIS-Tunis can attend our side > events and the ISRAEL Pavilion which exhibits various aspects of the > information society: eCulture, eLearning, eGovernment, eInclusion and more . > > Looking forwards to meet many Chapter members in Tunis, > > > Nava > > > Nava Gilad > e-Inclusion Consultant, > Israel Internet Association (ISOC-IL) > www.isoc.org.il > nava(a)isoc.org.il > 972-505-875404 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org > http://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

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Correction
by Wainaina Mungai 11 Nov '05

11 Nov '05

Correction on the minutes sent today. 1. KPO Executive Director's name to "Tim Wetangula" not Tim Walubengo 2. Bill Kagai does not represnt Hivos. He represents FOSSFA and Circuits&Packets Kindly note the corewections in your copies of the minutes. Regards, --- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.

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ISPs: A Call for Expression of Interest
by Alex Gakuru 11 Nov '05

11 Nov '05

To ALL ISPs, Owing to the diversity of consumer issues around ISPs, and the need to build solid .ke confidence, a series of half-day workshops may be held soon whose objective is to develop acceptable service standards (both to the consumers and the providers). I am very interested in working with ALL of you in developing these standards along internationally acceptable professional standards and consumer quality assurance levels. You may consider this is as an extension of the "FOCUS ON THE INDIVIDUAL" project and a response to the disconnect between providers and consumers. Therefore, this message is a call to individual ISPs interested in participating to email me directly through way_forward_tech(a)yahoo.com I have attached two documents to give you an indication of the expected outcomes should you be interested. Regards, Alex Gakuru - Way Forward Technologies - Center For Law in ICT Administration --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

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Minutes of KICTANet Planning Meeting - 8th November 2005
by Wainaina Mungai 11 Nov '05

11 Nov '05

Attached are the minutes of the Monthly Planning Meeting held at Jacaranda Hotel (Acacia Room) on 8th November 2005. Regards --- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.

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Re: [Kictanet] FW: Interesting and provocative essay on EASSy
by Alex Gakuru 11 Nov '05

11 Nov '05

v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}..shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Provoking Indeed! Aldens two articles are peculiar, provoking, and perhaps shallow to an otherwise sure prosperity EASSy big step, as clearly summarised in the articles first paragraph. While NEPAD[1] and EU are negotiating[2] financing of the project, the author claims, African governments and World Bank that are being asked to help finance another this one is called etc In real terms (and for conceptualisation purpose), the cited US$ 200 million is far short of the estimated US$ 213 million Kenya alone spends annually educating her children abroad, mainly in the UK, and yet this US$ 200m is the cost for the entire EASSy cable from South Africa upwards to southern Sudan. The author even gets emotive in trying too hard to discredit the project. Please give Africa credit sometimes! The parastatial telecommunication bureaucracies is distasteful since parastatals such as Safaricom Limited in Kenya are extremely profitable and other investors should explore similar partnerships with the various EASSy governments? --------------------------------- [1] NEPAD is the Political and Economic arm of the African Union, politics and economics being inseparable. [2] URL http://www.connectivityafrica.ca/HTML/PAREN_investment_report_final.pdf pp. 67 . PS: I have attached my short reaction Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: vkyalo To: 'Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet' Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:05 AM Subject: [Kictanet] FW: Interesting and provocative essay on EASSy Good read regarding EASSy, --------------------------------- From: Jim Forster [mailto:forster@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:07 PM To: vkyalo Cc: David Ochanda Subject: Re: Interesting and provocative essay on EASSy Hello Victor, Nice to meet you. I've been following and starting to participate in some issues and activities in networking in Africa. I heard of this essay by Roland Alden and forwarded it to people that I know that I thought might be interested. I don't have any particular discussion group for it; I'm sure you're involved in discussion groups that might be interested in this, so go ahead and forward it and discuss it as you see fit. I did see a reference to Richard Bell's article on a Kictanet archive. I hadn't known about Kictanet; those people might be interested in the essay. In September Richard Bell, the founder of Kenya Data Network, wrote a brief about EASSy, the proposed East African undersea fiber optic cable, which was critical of the planned financial structure. Now Roland Alden, a telecommunications consultant, has written a very interesting and provocative essay on EASSy as well. Here's the opening paragraph: Just say No to EASSy by Roland H. Alden African governments and global institutions like the World Bank are being asked to help finance another telecommunications project. This one is called EASSy (East African Submarine Cable System). While more and cheaper telecommunications is surely needed all across Africa , East African citizens would do well to ask their governments to take a step back from EASSy and find better ways to sponsor telecommunications projects that will result in real progress. As it stands today, EASSy could become a giant step backwards for Africa; and, with a US$200 million price tag, it has the potential of being an economic disaster Africa can ill-afford. I encourage you to read the rest of the essay at http://www.ralden.com/C1/EASSy and would welcome your thoughts on this very important issue. Thanks, -- Jim Forster Distinguished Engineer Cisco Systems San Jose, CA. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005 --------------------------------- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

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Fwd: FW: MCSE Engineer needed urgently.
by John Walubengo 11 Nov '05

11 Nov '05

FYI. walu

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[Apc-wsis] APC - Recommendations to the WSIS on Internet Governance
by Alice Wanjira-Munyua 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

Dear all Here are APC's recommendations to the WSIS regarding internet governance. Thank you very much to members of the wsis civil society internet governance caucus for all their input. We would value more feedback on this. Those of you who cannot read PDF file format please let us know and I will send it to you in a different format. Regards Anriette ------------------------------------------------------ Anriette Esterhuysen, Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette(a)apc.org http://www.apc.org PO Box 29755, Melville, South Africa. 2109 Tel. 27 11 726 1692 Fax 27 11 726 1692 <P><HR></P>The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: APC_IGv6-final.pdf Date: 10 Nov 2005, 18:02 Size: 134106 bytes. Dear all Internet Governance (IG) Issues are quite broad and diverse (ref Diplo Foundation, http://www.diplomacy.edu/) However here is some that I picked up and thought would be relevant to Kenyans. 1. Infrastructure: a) Is the fact the US continues to reserve the sole right over the DNS, Root Server system (un)favourable to Kenya? b) Is the fact that key (Internet eXchange Points, IXPs) are geographically located in the US (un)favourable to Kenya? c) What is our take on IP Number distribution- particularly with regard to IP ver 6, the next generation platform? 2. Legal: a) What are the current cyber laws accross the globe and how would they affect Kenya if adopted as the standard? b) What constitutes cyber-crime and who has the jurisdiction over the offendor, who and how does the victim get compensated? c) To what extend are governments allowed to access citizen's data (email, financial,medical, and other records?) 3) Economic: a) With regard to ecommerce, how will governements collect tax, should they? b) Should eTax be payable at source (producer) or destination (consumer) leve c) What about Patents (particularly on Software); Is the IP (Intellectual Property) Right skewed to favour developed nations? d) What is the Kenyan position on Open Source Software? 4) Social-Cultural a) Is eLearning as provided by developed countries and consumed by students in the developing nations robbing us of our Identity? b) Is the internet too 'English'? Are indigenious languages endangered as more people move online and find no footprint of e.g 'Kiswahili'? c) Should the Internet be considered a Public good - on the same level as International Waterways, Air, etc. What is the KICTAnet view on these (and other) issues? walu. >>> "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org> 11/08/05 08:29pm >>> *** This is a draft version. Kindly provide feedback where appropriate. *** ============ KICTANet @ WSIS ============ OBJECTIVES 1. Identify and circulate position of KICTANet on issues before WSIS in Tunis. 2. Identify KICTANet participants and work as a team to enhance their participation at WSIS in Tunis. 1. KICTANet position in Tunis. [ ISSUES] a) Internet governance b) Post Tunis Follow, implementation & Financing mechanisms 2. KICTANet TEAM @ Tunis (so far) a) Bill Kagai - FOSSFA b) Waudo Siganga - WGIG/CSK c) James Nguo - ALIN-EA d) Lizette Kraft - IDRC? e) Florence Etta - WSIS Gender Caucus f) Alari Alare - The Standard g) Constance Khaendi - WSIS Youth Kenya h) ????? please provide more names. 3. ACTIVITIES FOR KENYAN TEAM IN TUNIS a) Kenya Pavilion where many government-related entities will be exhibiting b) Engagement with government delegation (see list below) and strengthen "Kenya@WSIS" through a meeting of all Kenyan participants. c) Possible meeting of KICTANet team in Tunis (need to facilitate) d) Launch of the book "Developing Connections: " by IISD. e) Distribution of materials (see: Guidelines for the distribution of publications, documents, and any other printed materials on the premises of the Summit - on http://www.itu.int/wsis/docs2/tunis/adm/4.html ) 4. REFERENCE MATERIAL - OVERVIEW OF ISSUES FOR PHASE TWO OF THE WSIS: Tunis phase of WSIS Source: CCK website - http://www.cck.go.ke/html/child.asp?childcontid=135&childtitle=wsis_process… EVENTS - 13-15 November 2005, Tunis: The Resumed PrepCom-3 : To discuss pending issues including - 16 to 18 November 2005, Tunis: The Summit - PARALLEL Events (Visit http://www.itu.int/wsis/tunis/events/index.html ) - SIDE Events (Visit http://www.itu.int/wsis/tunis/events/side.html for details) Regards, - Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet -- alice

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Re: [Kictanet] KICTANet @ WSIS (feedback needed)
by John Walubengo 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

Internet Governance (IG) Issues are quite broad and diverse (ref Diplo Foundation, http://www.diplomacy.edu/) However here is some that I picked up and thought would be relevant to Kenyans. 1. Infrastructure: a) Is the fact the US continues to reserve the sole right over the DNS, Root Server system (un)favourable to Kenya? b) Is the fact that key (Internet eXchange Points, IXPs) are geographically located in the US (un)favourable to Kenya? c) What is our take on IP Number distribution- particularly with regard to IP ver 6, the next generation platform? 2. Legal: a) What are the current cyber laws accross the globe and how would they affect Kenya if adopted as the standard? b) What constitutes cyber-crime and who has the jurisdiction over the offendor, who and how does the victim get compensated? c) To what extend are governments allowed to access citizen's data (email, financial,medical, and other records?) 3) Economic: a) With regard to ecommerce, how will governements collect tax, should they? b) Should eTax be payable at source (producer) or destination (consumer) leve c) What about Patents (particularly on Software); Is the IP (Intellectual Property) Right skewed to favour developed nations? d) What is the Kenyan position on Open Source Software? 4) Social-Cultural a) Is eLearning as provided by developed countries and consumed by students in the developing nations robbing us of our Identity? b) Is the internet too 'English'? Are indigenious languages endangered as more people move online and find no footprint of e.g 'Kiswahili'? c) Should the Internet be considered a Public good - on the same level as International Waterways, Air, etc. What is the KICTAnet view on these (and other) issues? walu. >>> "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org> 11/08/05 08:29pm >>> *** This is a draft version. Kindly provide feedback where appropriate. *** ============ KICTANet @ WSIS ============ OBJECTIVES 1. Identify and circulate position of KICTANet on issues before WSIS in Tunis. 2. Identify KICTANet participants and work as a team to enhance their participation at WSIS in Tunis. 1. KICTANet position in Tunis. [ ISSUES] a) Internet governance b) Post Tunis Follow, implementation & Financing mechanisms 2. KICTANet TEAM @ Tunis (so far) a) Bill Kagai - FOSSFA b) Waudo Siganga - WGIG/CSK c) James Nguo - ALIN-EA d) Lizette Kraft - IDRC? e) Florence Etta - WSIS Gender Caucus f) Alari Alare - The Standard g) Constance Khaendi - WSIS Youth Kenya h) ????? please provide more names. 3. ACTIVITIES FOR KENYAN TEAM IN TUNIS a) Kenya Pavilion where many government-related entities will be exhibiting b) Engagement with government delegation (see list below) and strengthen "Kenya@WSIS" through a meeting of all Kenyan participants. c) Possible meeting of KICTANet team in Tunis (need to facilitate) d) Launch of the book "Developing Connections: " by IISD. e) Distribution of materials (see: Guidelines for the distribution of publications, documents, and any other printed materials on the premises of the Summit - on http://www.itu.int/wsis/docs2/tunis/adm/4.html ) 4. REFERENCE MATERIAL - OVERVIEW OF ISSUES FOR PHASE TWO OF THE WSIS: Tunis phase of WSIS Source: CCK website - http://www.cck.go.ke/html/child.asp?childcontid=135&childtitle=wsis_process… EVENTS - 13-15 November 2005, Tunis: The Resumed PrepCom-3 : To discuss pending issues including - 16 to 18 November 2005, Tunis: The Summit - PARALLEL Events (Visit http://www.itu.int/wsis/tunis/events/index.html ) - SIDE Events (Visit http://www.itu.int/wsis/tunis/events/side.html for details) Regards, - Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Re: [Kictanet] KICTANet @ WSIS (feedback needed)
by Wainaina Mungai 09 Nov '05

09 Nov '05

Two more members going to Tunis - making that a total of 9 non-government particpants... (i.e. Lucy Mathai (SIDAREC) and Wainaina Mungai) Any more? Rgds, Wainaina > -------Original Message------- > From: Wainaina Mungai <wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org> > Subject: [Kictanet] KICTANet @ WSIS (feedback needed) > Sent: 08 Nov '05 20:29 > > *** This is a draft version. Kindly provide feedback where appropriate. *** > > ============ > KICTANet @ WSIS > ============ > > OBJECTIVES > 1. Identify and circulate position of KICTANet on issues before WSIS in Tunis. > 2. Identify KICTANet participants and work as a team to enhance their participation at WSIS in Tunis. > > 1. KICTANet position in Tunis. > [ ISSUES] > a) Internet governance > b) Post Tunis Follow, implementation & Financing mechanisms > > > 2. KICTANet TEAM @ Tunis (so far) > a) Bill Kagai - FOSSFA > b) Waudo Siganga - WGIG/CSK > c) James Nguo - ALIN-EA > d) Lizette Kraft - IDRC? > e) Florence Etta - WSIS Gender Caucus > f) Alari Alare - The Standard > g) Constance Khaendi - WSIS Youth Kenya > h) ????? please provide more names. > > 3. ACTIVITIES FOR KENYAN TEAM IN TUNIS > a) Kenya Pavilion where many government-related entities will be exhibiting > b) Engagement with government delegation (see list below) and strengthen "Kenya@WSIS" through a meeting of all Kenyan participants. > c) Possible meeting of KICTANet team in Tunis (need to facilitate) > d) Launch of the book "Developing Connections: " by IISD. > e) Distribution of materials (see: Guidelines for the distribution of publications, documents, and any other printed materials on the premises of the Summit - on http://www.itu.int/wsis/docs2/tunis/adm/4.html ) > > > 4. REFERENCE MATERIAL > - OVERVIEW OF ISSUES FOR PHASE TWO OF THE WSIS: Tunis phase of WSIS > Source: CCK website - http://www.cck.go.ke/html/child.asp?childcontid=135&childtitle=wsis_process… > > EVENTS > - 13-15 November 2005, Tunis: The Resumed PrepCom-3 : To discuss pending issues including > > - 16 to 18 November 2005, Tunis: The Summit > > - PARALLEL Events (Visit http://www.itu.int/wsis/tunis/events/index.html ) > > - SIDE Events (Visit http://www.itu.int/wsis/tunis/events/side.html for details) > > > Regards, > > - > Wainaina Mungai > http://www.madeinkenya.org > > SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >

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Minutes of today's meeting (Quick Read version)
by Wainaina Mungai 09 Nov '05

09 Nov '05

Dear all, Here's a quick read version of the minutes of today's meeting held in the Acacia room at Jacaranda hotel. Detailed version coming soon. KICTANet Meeting called to order at 2:30pm. Chaired by John Walubengo. PROCEEDINGS 1. Presentation by Global Netcorps. > Jane and Janet explained the planned ICT Traning of Trainers (TOT) project targeting young Kenyans and the need to work with all stakeholders to localise the curriculum. The project, by Digital Opportunity Trust of Canada is mainly funded by CIDA and CISCO. > Members will provide them with contact details of stakeholders they may want to meet. 2. Confirmation of minutes of previous meeting > Dorcas and Walubengo confirmed the minutes. 3. Activity Reports & matters arising a) KICTANET@WSIS > Wainaina to develop a list of KICTANet members attending WSIS in Tunis > Members to develop position on WSIS issues. > Memebers to prepare material to be distributed at the Kenya Pavilion. b) GSM consumer forum > Lessons learnt include the need for logistics team such as AITEC. AITEC mandated to help logistics for next consumer event. > There's need for thorough preparation (Rapid Research) on statistical facts etc for future forums. > The report needs to be revised and summarised to bring out action items and identify who is required to implement follow-up. c) Editor's Mailinglist & Media Watch Institute > Liaise with Media Council (Esther Kamweru) and Media Owners Association. > Walubengo, Dorcas, Alex and Tony Wafula to follow-up with media. > Media Watch Institute is a long-term activity. d) Meeting with Kenya Paraplegic Organisation > Alex met the officials and they have proposals for support from KICTANet. They sent apologies for not being at today's meeting. e) Move of names from KIPList to KICTANet > Alice to liaise with IDRC on the migration of KIPList subscribers to KICTANet list. 4. Registering KICTANet as a legal entity. > Need for a one-day event at which lawyers will advice members on best approach for registration. 5. Planning for ISP Consumer forum. > Date changed to 1st December because 24th nov. was too close to constitional referundum date. > Duties allocated to various members. > Objective of event is consumer education to give them a voice rather than a panel presentation by service providers. 6.NEXT MEETING: > Thursday, 8th December 2005. 6. AOB > Need to add Software as well as Hardware as consumer protection issues similar to GSM and other issues already identified. Meeting adjourned at 5:29pm Regards, Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.

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FW: Interesting and provocative essay on EASSy
by vkyalo 09 Nov '05

09 Nov '05

Good read regarding EASSy, _____ From: Jim Forster [mailto:forster@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:07 PM To: vkyalo Cc: David Ochanda Subject: Re: Interesting and provocative essay on EASSy Hello Victor, Nice to meet you. I've been following and starting to participate in some issues and activities in networking in Africa. I heard of this essay by Roland Alden and forwarded it to people that I know that I thought might be interested. I don't have any particular discussion group for it; I'm sure you're involved in discussion groups that might be interested in this, so go ahead and forward it and discuss it as you see fit. I did see a reference to Richard Bell's article on a Kictanet archive. I hadn't known about Kictanet; those people might be interested in the essay. In September Richard Bell, the founder of Kenya Data Network, wrote a brief about EASSy, the proposed East African undersea fiber optic cable, which was critical of the planned financial structure. Now Roland Alden, a telecommunications consultant, has written a very interesting and provocative essay on EASSy as well. Here's the opening paragraph: Just say No to EASSy by Roland H. Alden African governments and global institutions like the World Bank are being asked to help finance another telecommunications project. This one is called HYPERLINK "http://eassy.org/"EASSy (East African Submarine Cable System). While more and cheaper telecommunications is surely needed all across Africa , East African citizens would do well to ask their governments to take a step back from EASSy and find better ways to sponsor telecommunications projects that will result in real progress. As it stands today, EASSy could become a giant step backwards for Africa; and, with a US$200 million price tag, it has the potential of being an economic disaster Africa can ill-afford. I encourage you to read the rest of the essay at HYPERLINK "http://www.ralden.com/C1/EASSy"http://www.ralden.com/C1/EASSy and would welcome your thoughts on this very important issue. Thanks, -- Jim Forster Distinguished Engineer Cisco Systems San Jose, CA. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005

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KICTANet @ WSIS (feedback needed)
by Wainaina Mungai 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

*** This is a draft version. Kindly provide feedback where appropriate. *** ============ KICTANet @ WSIS ============ OBJECTIVES 1. Identify and circulate position of KICTANet on issues before WSIS in Tunis. 2. Identify KICTANet participants and work as a team to enhance their participation at WSIS in Tunis. 1. KICTANet position in Tunis. [ ISSUES] a) Internet governance b) Post Tunis Follow, implementation & Financing mechanisms 2. KICTANet TEAM @ Tunis (so far) a) Bill Kagai - FOSSFA b) Waudo Siganga - WGIG/CSK c) James Nguo - ALIN-EA d) Lizette Kraft - IDRC? e) Florence Etta - WSIS Gender Caucus f) Alari Alare - The Standard g) Constance Khaendi - WSIS Youth Kenya h) ????? please provide more names. 3. ACTIVITIES FOR KENYAN TEAM IN TUNIS a) Kenya Pavilion where many government-related entities will be exhibiting b) Engagement with government delegation (see list below) and strengthen "Kenya@WSIS" through a meeting of all Kenyan participants. c) Possible meeting of KICTANet team in Tunis (need to facilitate) d) Launch of the book "Developing Connections: " by IISD. e) Distribution of materials (see: Guidelines for the distribution of publications, documents, and any other printed materials on the premises of the Summit - on http://www.itu.int/wsis/docs2/tunis/adm/4.html ) 4. REFERENCE MATERIAL - OVERVIEW OF ISSUES FOR PHASE TWO OF THE WSIS: Tunis phase of WSIS Source: CCK website - http://www.cck.go.ke/html/child.asp?childcontid=135&childtitle=wsis_process… EVENTS - 13-15 November 2005, Tunis: The Resumed PrepCom-3 : To discuss pending issues including - 16 to 18 November 2005, Tunis: The Summit - PARALLEL Events (Visit http://www.itu.int/wsis/tunis/events/index.html ) - SIDE Events (Visit http://www.itu.int/wsis/tunis/events/side.html for details) Regards, - Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.

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RE: [Kictanet] KICTANet Planning meeting
by James Nguo 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

Dear ALL, I have a booking for Tunis leaving on Friday morning. Is there anyone who wishes to leave on Friday in exchange for a ticket to travel early next week. Please contact me ASAP for an exchange Best regards James Nguo Regional Director Arid Lands Information Network-Eastern Africa (ALIN-EA), P.O. Box 10098, 00100 G.P.O. Nairobi, Kenya, AAYMCA Building, Along State House Crescent, Off State House Avenue. Tel +254 20 2731557 Telefax +254 20 2737813 Cell Phone +254 -722-561006 Email: james(a)alin.or.ke Website: www.alin.or.ke ------------------------------------------------------------- Enriched livelihoods of the people in arid areas of Eastern Africa through targeted information support and facilitation of information exchange -----Original Message----- From: Lizette Kraft [mailto:lkraft@idrc.or.ke] Sent: 08 November 2005 13:02 To: Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet Cc: ggithaiga(a)idrc.or.ke Subject: Re: [Kictanet] KICTANet Planning meeting Dear All, I am sorry to say that I will not be able to attend today's meeting pls bear with me I am travelling today p.m. I wish you all great meeting. A small request for list members: Is there anyone going to Tunis on Thursday, Friday or Saturday? Can this person please contact Gladys Githaiga cc'd in this email for a message? Thanks and cheers, FE At / À 07:57 PM 11/7/2005, Wanjira Alice wrote / a écrit: >Hi All > >Please could you add on the agenda the issue of registering KICTANet as a >legal entity. We need to get everyone's contribution to this issue. > >thanks Walu and have a great meeting. > >Liz Tapawa please note KICTANet meeting will take place on Tuesday 8th 2005 >2.30-5.00. >Mr. John Walubengo is chair and responsible. > >Thanks > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Walubengo" <jwalubengo(a)kcct.ac.ke> >To: <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke>; <wainaina.mungai(a)oneworld.net> >Cc: <civilsociety(a)kictanet.or.ke> >Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 6:11 PM >Subject: [civilsociety] RE: KICTANet Planning Meeting - Confirmed Tue,8th >Nov 2:30p.m-5:00p.m > > >With the additional agenda. > >Minutes of the GSM Consumer Forum shall be broadcasted on Mon 7th by midday. > >walu. > > > >>> "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina.mungai(a)oneworld.net> 11/01/05 12:12pm >>> >Dear All, > >I second the change of date and suggest that we add one more item to the >agenda. > >We have a request by Global NetCorps (GNC) - an initiative of Digital >Opportunity Trust - to meet with especially members of the KICTANet >civil society caucus on the same day. They are planning the launch of >NetCorps in Kenya. > >We could have them present to us between 2:30pm and 3:30pm. If members >could read through the GSM Consumer forum Report ciculated earlier, and >come in by 2pm, we could comfortably include this extra item. > >Regards, >Wainaina > >-----Original Message----- >From: bounce-kiplist-cl-117112(a)lyris.idrc.ca >[mailto:bounce-kiplist-cl-117112@lyris.idrc.ca] On Behalf Of John >Walubengo >Sent: 31 October 2005 08:47 >To: KIPlist >Subject: [Fwd: [Kictanet] KICTANet Planning Meeting - Notice to Postpone > >I am reliably informed by one of my 'holiday-sniffing' colleague that >this Friday 4th Nov 2005 is likely to be a (Muslim) holiday in Kenya. >As such I am proposing we shift the Monthly KICTAnet meeting to the >following week, Tue 8th Nov 2005, Jacaranda Hotel, 2:00-5:00p.m. > >Proposed Agenda > >1. Confirmation and adoption of previous minutes >2. Matters Arising >3. KICTANet Activities & Receiving of Reports (Review of 1st ICT >Consumer Protection Forum) >4. Planning for 2nd Consumer Protection Forum (ISP focus) >5. Date and Time for the next meeting >6. AOB > >walu. > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >kictanet mailing list >kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > >_______________________________________________ >civilsociety mailing list >civilsociety(a)kictanet.or.ke >http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/civilsociety > > >-- >Wanjira Alice >Director >Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) >wanjira(a)cck.go.ke >http://www.cck.go.ke >Tel: + 254 020 4242000 >Fax: +254 020 4451866 >Cell: +254 (0) 733 731074 > > >_______________________________________________ >kictanet mailing list >kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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KICTANet Planning meeting
by Wanjira Alice 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

Hi All Please could you add on the agenda the issue of registering KICTANet as a legal entity. We need to get everyone's contribution to this issue. thanks Walu and have a great meeting. Liz Tapawa please note KICTANet meeting will take place on Tuesday 8th 2005 2.30-5.00. Mr. John Walubengo is chair and responsible. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walubengo" <jwalubengo(a)kcct.ac.ke> To: <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke>; <wainaina.mungai(a)oneworld.net> Cc: <civilsociety(a)kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 6:11 PM Subject: [civilsociety] RE: KICTANet Planning Meeting - Confirmed Tue,8th Nov 2:30p.m-5:00p.m With the additional agenda. Minutes of the GSM Consumer Forum shall be broadcasted on Mon 7th by midday. walu. >>> "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina.mungai(a)oneworld.net> 11/01/05 12:12pm >>> Dear All, I second the change of date and suggest that we add one more item to the agenda. We have a request by Global NetCorps (GNC) - an initiative of Digital Opportunity Trust - to meet with especially members of the KICTANet civil society caucus on the same day. They are planning the launch of NetCorps in Kenya. We could have them present to us between 2:30pm and 3:30pm. If members could read through the GSM Consumer forum Report ciculated earlier, and come in by 2pm, we could comfortably include this extra item. Regards, Wainaina -----Original Message----- From: bounce-kiplist-cl-117112(a)lyris.idrc.ca [mailto:bounce-kiplist-cl-117112@lyris.idrc.ca] On Behalf Of John Walubengo Sent: 31 October 2005 08:47 To: KIPlist Subject: [Fwd: [Kictanet] KICTANet Planning Meeting - Notice to Postpone I am reliably informed by one of my 'holiday-sniffing' colleague that this Friday 4th Nov 2005 is likely to be a (Muslim) holiday in Kenya. As such I am proposing we shift the Monthly KICTAnet meeting to the following week, Tue 8th Nov 2005, Jacaranda Hotel, 2:00-5:00p.m. Proposed Agenda 1. Confirmation and adoption of previous minutes 2. Matters Arising 3. KICTANet Activities & Receiving of Reports (Review of 1st ICT Consumer Protection Forum) 4. Planning for 2nd Consumer Protection Forum (ISP focus) 5. Date and Time for the next meeting 6. AOB walu. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet _______________________________________________ civilsociety mailing list civilsociety(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/civilsociety -- Wanjira Alice Director Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) wanjira(a)cck.go.ke http://www.cck.go.ke Tel: + 254 020 4242000 Fax: +254 020 4451866 Cell: +254 (0) 733 731074

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Contact Address Correction
by Lizette Kraft 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

Kindly note correction on my new alternative email address: lfkraft(a)gmail.com Kindly use this address as the first alternative to the yahoo address: kind regards Lizette

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Fw: NYTimes: Poor Nations Are Littered With Old PC's
by alice＠apc.org 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Mware" <mleonardo(a)yahoo.com> To: "KIPlist" <kiplist-cl(a)lyris.idrc.ca> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:44 PM Subject: NYTimes: Poor Nations Are Littered With Old PC's > Thought this could provoke some debate on used computers. > > apologies if you have already seen it. > leonard > > Poor Nations Are Littered With Old PC's, Report Says By LAURIE J. FLYNN > October 24, 2005 > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/technology/24junk.html?th&emc=th > > Much of the used computer equipment sent from the United States to > developing countries for use in homes, schools and businesses is often > neither usable nor repairable, creating enormous environmental problems > in some of the world's poorest places, according to a report to be > issued today by an environmental organization. > > The report, titled "The Digital Dump: Exporting Reuse and Abuse to > Africa," says that the unusable equipment is being donated or sold to > developing nations by recycling businesses in the United States as a > way > to dodge the expense of having to recycle it properly. While the > report, > written by the Basel Action Network, based in Seattle, focuses on > Nigeria, in western Africa, it says the situation is similar throughout > much of the developing world. > > "Too often, justifications of 'building bridges over the digital > divide' > > are used as excuses to obscure and ignore the fact that these bridges > double as toxic waste pipelines," says the report. As a result, Nigeria > and other developing nations are carrying a disproportionate burden of > the world's toxic waste from technology products, according to Jim > Puckett, coordinator of the group. > > According to the National Safety Council, more than 63 million > computers > in the United States will become obsolete in 2005. An average computer > monitor can contain as much as eight pounds of lead, along with > plastics > laden with flame retardants and cadmium, all of which can be harmful to > the environment and to humans. > > In 2002, the Basel Action Network was co-author of a report that said > 50 > percent to 80 percent of electronics waste collected for recycling in > the United States was being disassembled and recycled under largely > unregulated, unhealthy conditions in China, India, Pakistan and other > developing countries. The new report contends that Americans may be > lulled into thinking their old computers are being put to good use. > > At the Nigerian port of Lagos, the new report says, an estimated 500 > containers of used electronic equipment enter the country each month, > each one carrying about 800 computers, for a total of about 400,000 > used > computers a month. The majority of the equipment arriving in Lagos, the > report says, is unusable and neither economically repairable or > resalable. "Nigerians are telling us they are getting as much as 75 > percent junk that is not repairable," Mr. Puckett said. He said that > Nigeria, like most developing countries, could only accommodate > functioning used equipment. > > The environmental group visited Lagos, where it found that despite > growing technology industries, the country lacked an infrastructure for > electronics recycling. This means that the imported equipment often > ends > up in landfills, where toxins in the equipment can pollute the > groundwater and create unhealthy conditions. > > Mr. Puckett said the group had identified 30 recyclers in the United > States who had agreed not to export electronic waste to developing > countries. "We are trying to get it to be common practice that you have > to test what you send and label it," he said. > > Mr. Puckett also said his group was trying to enforce the Basel > Convention, a United Nations treaty intended to limit the trade of > hazardous waste. The United States is the only developed country that > has not ratified the treaty. > > Much of the equipment being shipped to Africa and other developing > areas > is from recyclers in the United States, who typically get the used > equipment free from businesses, government agencies and communities and > ship it abroad for repair, sale or to be dismantled using low-cost > labor. > > Scrap Computers, a recycler in Phoenix, has eight warehouses across the > United States to store collected electronics before they are shipped to > foreign destinations, and Graham Wollaston, the company's president, > says he is opening new warehouses at the rate of one a month. Mr. > Wollaston, who describes his company as a "giant sorting operation," > said there was a reuse for virtually every component of old electronic > devices: old televisions are turned into fish tanks for Malaysia, and a > silicon glass shortage has created huge demand for old monitors, which > are turned into new ones. "There's no such thing as a third-world > landfill," Mr. Wollaston said. "If you were to put an old computer on > the street, it would be taken apart for the parts." > > Mr. Wollaston said the system was largely working, though he conceded > that some recyclers dump useless equipment in various developing > nations, most notably China. "One of the problems the industry faces is > a lack of certification as to where it's all going," he said. He says > his company tests all equipment destined for developing nations. > > The Environmental Protection Agency concedes that "inappropriate > practices" have occurred in the industry, but said it did not think the > problem should be addressed by stopping all exports. > > "E.P.A. has been working with the Organization for Economic Cooperation > and Development countries for the last several years on development of > a > program that would provide much greater assurance that exports of > recyclable materials will be environmentally sound," Tom Dunne, of the > agency's Office of Solid Waste and Emergency Response, wrote in an > e-mail message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > --- > Submitted by: Leonard M Oloo <mleonardo(a)yahoo.com> 2005-11-02 05:50:19 > EST5 > (Please reply to original submitter for private communication) > --- > You are currently subscribed to kiplist-cl as: [alice(a)apc.org] > To unsubscribe, forward this message to > leave-kiplist-cl-100946B(a)lyris.idrc.ca >

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GSM Consumer Protection MInutes+ Reminder KICTANET Meeting Tue 8th Nov 2005(Resend)
by John Walubengo 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

Sorry, I had forgotten to attach the Agenda+Attendance. ~~~ FInd attached. walu. nb. KICTANET Monthly meeting tomorrow 8th Nove 2005, 2:30 p.m -5:00p.m

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Re: [Kictanet] Poor Nations Are Littered With Old PC's: Lets be careful!
by Wainaina Mungai 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

I agree with Dorcas, that we need: 1. To develop a Made in Kenya computer & communications equipment industry: My position is that taxes on parts should be removed while taxes on finished IT products should remain slightly higher than the parts. This would nurture a computer assembly industry at the very minimum. Alternatively, PC assembly / manufacturers should be given a better tax deal (??tax holidays for promoting employment in ICT??). 2. To develop strict environmental guidelines/laws on imported communications equipment (including reconditioned mobile phones): This should include parts that will be used for PC assembly. since PCs are dumped here because it's cheap, our government can collect [the equivalent of upto 50% of the amount the "dumpers" are running away from] and still ensure that nothing harmful is dumped here. We would remain a more attractive destinations for the harmlessl devices yet the government would make some good money in the process. ;-) 3. To enforce our laws on local and imported e-waste: How we dispose our own IT waste is very critical. We are not doing too well on old diskettes, printer catridges and damaged mobile phones. As Dorcas stated, NEMA, Prof. Wangari Mathai and CCK should have their presence felt on this issue if we are to make progress. 4. To criticaly study and support the enforcement of the ICT related aspects of the Basel Convention - www.basel.int - at the national level: Note that the ICT policy (before Cabinet) has a provision for strict laws on. As the headquarters of UNEP -and as a nation which has officially announced its interest in joining the Security Council - Kenya should lead the way. 5. Alex, I am compelled to "throw an Orange" at your appeal ;-) I remain Proudly Kenyan, Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. > -------Original Message------- > From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> > Subject: [Kictanet] Poor Nations Are Littered With Old PC's: Lets be careful! > Sent: 07 Nov '05 10:00 > > NB: Sorry for a very long posting > > Kindly lets do our homework. Lets be careful about what we support lest > we shoot ourselves in the foot. > * > Definitions: > * > Old Computers: Computers that have reached the end of their useful lives > in an organisation/ A computer that has reached the end of its useful > life to the owner. > Second-hand/ Refurbs : Old or used computer equipment that has been > restored to working condition. Restoration involves repalcement of > hardware components with similar or newer ones. > > *Facts:* > > Most of the environmental concerns with computers lie with the monitor > (27% of the weight of a CRT monitor is due to its lead content), > specifically its cathode ray tube (CRT). Each color monitor contains, on > average, four to five pounds of lead, considered hazardous waste when > disposed off. Computers also contain other hazardous materials, > including mercury, cadmium (a known carcinogen), and hexavalent chromium > (shown to cause high blood pressure, iron-poor blood, liver disease, and > nerve and brain damage in animals). > > In the US alone more than 315 million computers were expected to become > obsolete by the year 2004, containing an estimated 1.2 billion pounds of > lead, 2 million pounds of cadmium, 400,000 pounds of mercury and 1.2 > million pounds of hexavalent chromium. > > Imagine a worst-case scenario: Groundwater, (enough Kenyans draw > drinking water directly from rivers,) near a landfill becomes contaminated. > > If you can contact NEMA or our renowned Mother Nature (Prof. Wangari), > let them know these and start preparing a law. > > *Action:* > -- Technical and Product Development Manager Oneworld International 4th Floor, Kimathi House Nairobi. Kenya. Tel: +254-20-316800 Fax: +254-20-241920 ----- Free SMSNews4theDEAF: SMS the text DEAF ON to the number 560 and you will receive FREE SMS News on issues relevant to people who are deaf or have Hearing Impairment. To stop the messages, send DEAF OFF to the number 560.

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Re: [Kictanet] Poor Nations Are Littered With Old PC's: Lets be careful!
by Wainaina Mungai 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

I agree with Dorcas, that we need: 1. To develop a Made in Kenya computer & communications equipment industry: My position is that taxes on parts should be removed while taxes on finished IT products should remain slightly higher than the parts. This would nurture a computer assembly industry at the very minimum. Alternatively, PC assembly / manufacturers should be given a better tax deal (??tax holidays for promoting employment in ICT??). 2. To develop strict environmental guidelines/laws on imported communications equipment (including reconditioned mobile phones): This should include parts that will be used for PC assembly. since PCs are dumped here because it's cheap, our government can collect [the equivalent of upto 50% of the amount the "dumpers" are running away from] and still ensure that nothing harmful is dumped here. We would remain a more attractive destinations for the harmlessl devices yet the government would make some good money in the process. ;-) 3. To enforce our laws on local and imported e-waste: How we dispose our own IT waste is very critical. We are not doing too well on old diskettes, printer catridges and damaged mobile phones. As Dorcas stated, NEMA, Prof. Wangari Mathai and CCK should have their presence felt on this issue if we are to make progress. 4. To criticaly study and support the enforcement of the ICT related aspects of the Basel Convention - www.basel.int - at the national level: Note that the ICT policy (before Cabinet) has a provision for strict laws on. As the headquarters of UNEP -and as a nation which has officially announced its interest in joining the Security Council - Kenya should lead the way. 5. Alex, I am compelled to "throw an Orange" at your appeal ;-) I remain Proudly Kenyan, Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. > -------Original Message------- > From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> > Subject: [Kictanet] Poor Nations Are Littered With Old PC's: Lets be careful! > Sent: 07 Nov '05 10:00 > > NB: Sorry for a very long posting > > Kindly lets do our homework. Lets be careful about what we support lest > we shoot ourselves in the foot. > * > Definitions: > * > Old Computers: Computers that have reached the end of their useful lives > in an organisation/ A computer that has reached the end of its useful > life to the owner. > Second-hand/ Refurbs : Old or used computer equipment that has been > restored to working condition. Restoration involves repalcement of > hardware components with similar or newer ones. > > *Facts:* > > Most of the environmental concerns with computers lie with the monitor > (27% of the weight of a CRT monitor is due to its lead content), > specifically its cathode ray tube (CRT). Each color monitor contains, on > average, four to five pounds of lead, considered hazardous waste when > disposed off. Computers also contain other hazardous materials, > including mercury, cadmium (a known carcinogen), and hexavalent chromium > (shown to cause high blood pressure, iron-poor blood, liver disease, and > nerve and brain damage in animals). > > In the US alone more than 315 million computers were expected to become > obsolete by the year 2004, containing an estimated 1.2 billion pounds of > lead, 2 million pounds of cadmium, 400,000 pounds of mercury and 1.2 > million pounds of hexavalent chromium. > > Imagine a worst-case scenario: Groundwater, (enough Kenyans draw > drinking water directly from rivers,) near a landfill becomes contaminated. > > If you can contact NEMA or our renowned Mother Nature (Prof. Wangari), > let them know these and start preparing a law. > > *Action:* >

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