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Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by eunicekariuki＠ict.go.ke 10 Sep '09

10 Sep '09

Hahaaaa! How funny. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya -----Original Message----- From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:49:33 To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices We dont need KICTANET to tell Kenyans that Eunice is using bellow the belt to award favours. What is the number os users in KICTANET? Be serious. We dont need KICTANET for this to be known > -----Original Message----- > From: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke > Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:44:02 +0000 > To: onyango(a)inbox.com > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > prices > > You have missed the whole point as expected!! > > And sorry I will not give you the pleasure of being drawn into the level > of arguing nor engage you as I know there will only be disgrace to be > gained. > > I certainly feel sorry for you and hope you hope someone can help you > soon. > Pole sana. > > As for kictanet, this very juvenile language/ communication and level of > thinking or interpreting matters of national importance is an > embarrassment to the country, given the subscription nos. > The real debate should be how to streamline debates so that they are of > high quality! Alice, Walu over to you. > > Ek > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya > > -----Original Message----- > From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> > > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:28:01 > To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> > Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; > ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > prices > > > Eunice > > The debate is personalised because the stakeholders are personalising > everything > > Dont say that the first priority of Michael JOseph is to teh shareholder > while am a shareholder and priority is definitely not on me nor the > majority who boycotted the AGM because of Michael Josephs arrogance. > > And now you bring Ringera issue into ICT matters. Wako was very wrong > like he has been. There is no way a court ruling can bind the Kenyan > parliament. There is separation of powers and thank God you will be > excused because you are a marketer and seems to have very minute > knowledge on law. The fact that you bring Ringera issues is suspect > because first you have used the same bad laws to hinder people from > accessing ICT Board and when access has been imminent you have tried to > force peopel to have sex with you so that they get favours from ICT > Board. Dont try to act like an angel. We know what you are doing. > > How do you expect people to be objective while you at ICT Board have not > been objective nor fair to anyone. > > Be serious. Stop kidding us. > > OH > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke >> Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:11:06 +0000 >> To: onyango(a)inbox.com >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet >> prices >> >> This debate is so personalised that I can't help to wonder where the >> 'policy advocacy' aspect of kictanet forum is! By focusing on MJ and not >> Safaricom you make him more powerful! Yet he is just the CEO and for now >> its spokesperson. >> >> We shall do well , very well when we stop being so emotional and >> personal >> on matters of ICT at whatever level. >> >> Any other way leaves Desai and sour, may be even bad taste in the mouths >> of those we appeal to do xyz for the industry. >> >> Their(michael and others in similar positions of economic influence) >> first priority is to their shareholders; Recall the way Wako arrogantly >> but correctly advised parliament on the Ringera issue? That they can >> only >> request or express opinions and hope they will be considered by law >> interpreters(courts). Tough pill to swallow on an issue such the Ringera >> one but wako says only the court can interpret law. >> >> In the case of this forum, we should consider putting across our policy >> requests, opinions, views, suggestions in sober, objective and above >> board manner! >> Any other way will yield nothing, unless you take off from internet to >> the streets to protest or get commissions to be appointed to make >> recommendations (at your tax cost) which may never be implemented any >> way. >> >> Ek >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> >> >> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:44:03 >> To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> >> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; >> ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet >> prices >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eunicekariuki%40ict.go… >> > >_______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: onyango(a)inbox.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/onyango%40inbox.com ____________________________________________________________ GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! 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Fwd: Re: Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by Bildad Kagai 10 Sep '09

10 Sep '09

> From: Alex Gakuru <gakuru(a)gmail.com> > I do not have power today and my laptop battery is low. You will all > have to excuse my absence until later when power is back. I shall > respond to every question directed at me. > From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> > Thanks Bill. I will call you and even invite you for Coffee in Java. > And tell them to bring the police then to serve me with the suit. I > will call you ndugu Alex/Hatari, You should expect natural consequences of what you do. Your excuse is LAME to say the least. Whether you are changing your tactical gambit or creating a new email address to light another tinderbox, you should be courageous enough not to hide your identity at cybercafes to push your agenda. What happened here today was 'out of order' and I hope the concerned aggrieved parties do take this matter to the relevant authorities at least as a deterrent measure for future escapades. I hope that very soon, we shall see the real face of Onyango Hatari who attempted to under-estimate the intelligence of this community by planting seeds of discord as soon as the long arm of the law catches up with him. I for one, will bear witness to the sad events that transpired today. I am confident we shall see an 'arrest' soon.

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by eunicekariuki＠ict.go.ke 10 Sep '09

10 Sep '09

You have missed the whole point as expected!! And sorry I will not give you the pleasure of being drawn into the level of arguing nor engage you as I know there will only be disgrace to be gained. I certainly feel sorry for you and hope you hope someone can help you soon. Pole sana. As for kictanet, this very juvenile language/ communication and level of thinking or interpreting matters of national importance is an embarrassment to the country, given the subscription nos. The real debate should be how to streamline debates so that they are of high quality! Alice, Walu over to you. Ek Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya -----Original Message----- From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:28:01 To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices Eunice The debate is personalised because the stakeholders are personalising everything Dont say that the first priority of Michael JOseph is to teh shareholder while am a shareholder and priority is definitely not on me nor the majority who boycotted the AGM because of Michael Josephs arrogance. And now you bring Ringera issue into ICT matters. Wako was very wrong like he has been. There is no way a court ruling can bind the Kenyan parliament. There is separation of powers and thank God you will be excused because you are a marketer and seems to have very minute knowledge on law. The fact that you bring Ringera issues is suspect because first you have used the same bad laws to hinder people from accessing ICT Board and when access has been imminent you have tried to force peopel to have sex with you so that they get favours from ICT Board. Dont try to act like an angel. We know what you are doing. How do you expect people to be objective while you at ICT Board have not been objective nor fair to anyone. Be serious. Stop kidding us. OH > -----Original Message----- > From: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke > Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:11:06 +0000 > To: onyango(a)inbox.com > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > prices > > This debate is so personalised that I can't help to wonder where the > 'policy advocacy' aspect of kictanet forum is! By focusing on MJ and not > Safaricom you make him more powerful! Yet he is just the CEO and for now > its spokesperson. > > We shall do well , very well when we stop being so emotional and personal > on matters of ICT at whatever level. > > Any other way leaves Desai and sour, may be even bad taste in the mouths > of those we appeal to do xyz for the industry. > > Their(michael and others in similar positions of economic influence) > first priority is to their shareholders; Recall the way Wako arrogantly > but correctly advised parliament on the Ringera issue? That they can only > request or express opinions and hope they will be considered by law > interpreters(courts). Tough pill to swallow on an issue such the Ringera > one but wako says only the court can interpret law. > > In the case of this forum, we should consider putting across our policy > requests, opinions, views, suggestions in sober, objective and above > board manner! > Any other way will yield nothing, unless you take off from internet to > the streets to protest or get commissions to be appointed to make > recommendations (at your tax cost) which may never be implemented any > way. > > Ek > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya > > -----Original Message----- > From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> > > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:44:03 > To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> > Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; > ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > prices > > >_______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eunicekariuki%40ict.go… > >_______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: onyango(a)inbox.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/onyango%40inbox.com

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The Way Forward...my 2 bob... WAS: Re: Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya
by McTim 09 Sep '09

09 Sep '09

Ladies and Gents, I have been thinking about this a great deal over the last few days. My position remains the same, the IGF (global one) is not a negotiating, output focused body. HOWEVER, there is no reason the National or Regional IGFs cannot produce outputs to help local and regional policy makers. As much as I applaud the fantastic organisational job done to bring this EAIGF about, I think that IF this body wants to actually produce a useful output for policy makers, it needs to shift format a bit. Instead of being a "presentations with a few questions at the end" kind of thing, I think that breaking up into subject matter working groups (with associated mailing lists per subject) over the course of the year will be more likely to produce useful frameworks for policy makers. Hope to see you later this morning, McTim On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Walubengo J<jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > McTim, > > thanx for your observations. i think what Vincent meant was the bigger picture which is that for our issues to be 'felt' or 'heard' at a global level, it counts to speak as a Region. > > And so according to me one major outcome from the ongoing meeting is to learn from each other and arrive at what you might call an E.African view/position on the various burning issues under CyberSecurity, Domain mngt, Infrastrucutre (e.g. undersea cable), Local Content, etc. > > walu. > > > --- On Sun, 9/6/09, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> From: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 9:00 PM >> Hi Vincent, >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Vincent Ngundi<vincent(a)kenic.or.ke> >> wrote: >> <snip> >> > The expected outcome of this will be a framework that >> ushers the region into >> > the digital economy. The outcome will also be a >> negotiating platform during >> > the fourth United Nations Internet Governance Forum >> (UN IGF) taking place in >> > Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, in November 2009, >> >> Can you clarify this please? AFAIK, the IGF is NOT a >> negotiating body. >> >> Our output could be an "input" for discussion, but there is >> no process >> or way to negotiate anything at the IGF (which has, after >> all, no >> "authority" to compel anyone to behave in a certain way). >> >> See you at the jacaranda tomorrow! >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where >> it is. A >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >> > > > >

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Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya
by Vincent Ngundi 07 Sep '09

07 Sep '09

[reminder]: 2009 EA-IGF - http://www.eaigf.or.ke Dear Colleagues, The competitiveness of our economies is increasingly dependent on the Internet and therefore mainstreaming our region in the cyberspace is of paramount importance. The challenges to achieve the knowledge economy in our region have been identified as: * Access to Broadband (at the village, in schools, in banks, in manufacturing); * Cyber Security, Trust and Privacy (for banks, for the government, for he individual user); * Policy, Legal and Regulatory Issues (to make access to Internet available and affordable, to protect consumers); * Critical Internet Resources (to ensure the stability, growth and security of the Internet); * Internet User and Consumer Protection (to protect your online identity, to protect your personal data, to guarantee your right to communicate and to information and knowledge). To address these issues at the regional level KICTANet, KENIC and other participating organizations have brought together participants from the East Africa countries of Burundi, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda and Kenya. They will be joined by delegates from the international community including the United Kingdom (UK), Japan, the United States of America (USA) and Canada among others. The expected outcome of this will be a framework that ushers the region into the digital economy. The outcome will also be a negotiating platform during the fourth United Nations Internet Governance Forum (UN IGF) taking place in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, in November 2009, the African Information Society conference in Addis Ababa in January 2010 as well as set the stage for the 37th Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) meeting to be held in Nairobi, Kenya, in March 2010. This is to therefore invite you as key Internet stakeholder in the region to join the leaders to help formulate the strategy for the future of the Internet. Kindly visit the website www.eaigf.or.ke <http://www.eaigf.or.ke> to register for next week¹s internet governance meeting: 7th - 9th September at the Jacaranda Hotel. Kind Regards, ----------- Vincent Ngundi Administrative Manager KENIC - The Kenya Network Information Centre http://www.kenic.or.ke vincent(a)kenic.or.ke [T] +254 20 4450057/8 [C] +254 20 2398036 [M] +254 733 790073 [F] +254 20 4450087 ³dot KE for Every Name in Kenya!²

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Commonwealth travel support for IGF Sharm el Sheikh
by Adam Peake 07 Sep '09

07 Sep '09

The <http://www.commonwealthconnects.net/>Commonwealth Connects Programme has set up a travel fund to help people from Commonwealth countries to attend the IGF meeting in Sharm el Sheikh. Information below, and in more detail on the Commonwealth website <http://commonwealthigf.org/cms/index.php/home.html>. Note, deadline for applications is September 14. Please hurry :-) Info copied from the Commonwealth site below. Adam Aim of the Bursary As part of this strategy for more engagement, the Commonwealth Internet Governance Forum have set up a modest travel fund to offer young professionals who are active in Internet Governance in their countries or field, the opportunity to participate at the IGF meeting in Sharm el Sheikh. Criteria/ Eligibility Applicants must * be nationals of a developing Commonwealth country * be active in Internet Governance related issues in their field of expertise or their country. * play an active role at the IGF, presenting in a workshop or panel or presenting their work in the IGF Market place. * be able to demonstrate how their participation will benefit their country and ensure security, affordability in providing access for all. Terms & Conditions The travel bursary will cover cost of return economy air travel. All other accommodation, meals and local costs will have to be covered by the applicants themselves. Visa application and related costs will also be covered by the applicants. The final confirmation of the award of the travel bursary will be made once the visa is in hand. Any last minute cancellation or failure to attend will cancel the terms of the bursary and a full refund of costs will have to be made. Awardees will be re-imbursed for travel costs after the submission of a report at the end of the event. A report of around 500 words, must be submitted no later than 4 weeks after the completion of the event. The report should describe the experience, including a brief summary of the work undertaken by the applicant, together with the skills and experience gained. The report should address how the placement has been of benefit to the applicant in relation to his / her course of study, new skills learned, future career prospects and personal development. If a satisfactory report is not submitted within that time, the Secretariat will consider it a breach of the Terms & Conditions and may refuse to reimburse the costs of travel. Selection Process Submissions via an application form (available on the web) must include a supporting statement (not more than 200 words) of how the proposed opportunity ensures secure and affordable access for all in a Commonwealth country. Applicants must include references, from academic tutor or line manager. Selection Committee shall make the final selection based on the funds available. The committee shall also identify a number of standby candidates in case a selected candidate does not/cannot take up the offer of an award. Therefore a number of candidates may be shortlisted for the bursary and advised closer to the time. The committee¹s decision on any application is FINAL. The Secretariat will NOT enter into any communication with applicants regarding unsuccessful applications. Timescales Deadlines 24th August Announcements Call for Applications 7th September Deadline for Applications 11th September Selection and shortlisting 17th September Review by Selection Committee 28th September Announcement of Selected Candidates Candidates make flight and visa arrangements and confirm all is in order 24th October Formal Award of Bursaries END

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Fwd: Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya
by McTim 07 Sep '09

07 Sep '09

All, On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Solomon Mburu<solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I also concur with Walu on this. The deliberations out of the on-going > EAIGF, will make our East African voice be heard at the > internationational level. Is there a single "EA voice" on IG issues? I understand the notion of having a EA policy framework coming out of the EAIGF. That is a very powerful role for the EAIGF indeed. My objection is mainly that we seem to think in terms of nation states as the basic unit of IG policy making. From my experience, that is not the case, and I oppose any attempts to make it so. Find me at lunch, we can talk more ;-) Rgds, McTim > > On 07/09/2009, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> McTim, >> >> thanx for your observations. i think what Vincent meant was the bigger >> picture which is that for our issues to be 'felt' or 'heard' at a global >> level, it counts to speak as a Region. >> >> And so according to me one major outcome from the ongoing meeting is to >> learn from each other and arrive at what you might call an E.African >> view/position on the various burning issues under CyberSecurity, Domain >> mngt, Infrastrucutre (e.g. undersea cable), Local Content, etc. >> >> walu. >> >> >> --- On Sun, 9/6/09, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> From: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, >>> Nairobi, Kenya >>> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 9:00 PM >>> Hi Vincent, >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Vincent Ngundi<vincent(a)kenic.or.ke> >>> wrote: >>> <snip> >>> > The expected outcome of this will be a framework that >>> ushers the region into >>> > the digital economy. The outcome will also be a >>> negotiating platform during >>> > the fourth United Nations Internet Governance Forum >>> (UN IGF) taking place in >>> > Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, in November 2009, >>> >>> Can you clarify this please? AFAIK, the IGF is NOT a >>> negotiating body. >>> >>> Our output could be an "input" for discussion, but there is >>> no process >>> or way to negotiate anything at the IGF (which has, after >>> all, no >>> "authority" to compel anyone to behave in a certain way). >>> >>> See you at the jacaranda tomorrow! >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> >>> McTim >>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where >>> it is. A >>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: solo.mburu(a)gmail.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Solomon Mburu > P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > > Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all > the same way to the side of a hill! > > AND > > It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: dogwallah(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dogwallah%40gmail.com > -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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Is private sector corruption more or equally dangerous to society?
by Gakuru Alex 05 Sep '09

05 Sep '09

Excuse the cross post... They usually "fixed" by engaging in CSR, but let's face it they too are corrupt. Get over it! In a country where everything gets soaked corrupted, even concept too become affected. Quite often, we excuse companies engaging in the vice as competitive and covert criminal spying/espionage ares overtly christened "business intelligence" With all the money at their disposal, do you think the companies are more dangerous for society or equally as bad? What about where they form alliances with public sector corruption to become public-private partners in crime against the people? could I have your views please?( directly or publicly) asante and regards, Alex

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Why Should Anyone Be Led by You?
by David Otwoma 04 Sep '09

04 Sep '09

Dear All, On Friday 18th September 2009 at KICC we (Association of Professional Societies in East Africa) shall be hosting one, (*Gareth Jones)* of the two authors of the best selling book titled "Why Should Anyone Be Led by You?" for a whole day at Kenyatta International Conference Centre. For those who want to debunk the four myths i.e. 1. *Everyone can be a leader. * 2. *Leaders deliver business results* *3. People who get to the top are leaders. 4. Leaders are great coaches. * *.....*you need not miss. See more at http://www.apsea.or.ke/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=… For leaders who are challenged when confronted by clever people it is a must so as to cure you of your !!!!!!!!!!!!! complex. (note the 5 Cs) Have a great Furahi day all. Kind regards, David -- David Otwoma, Chief Science Secretary, National Council for Science and Technology, Utalii House 9th Floor, Mobile tel: +254 722 141771, Office tel: +254 (0)20 2346915, P. O. Box 5687 - 00100, Nairobi, Kenya email: otwomad(a)gmail.com & otwoma(a)ncst.go.ke www.ncst.go.ke

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Idea
by Rad! 03 Sep '09

03 Sep '09

Here's a thought. Most Kenyans labour under the mistaken impression that to succeed you have to do it using the one-big-deal-that-sorts-you-out-for-life. Not true. I wonder if Safaricom, Orange, Zain & Yu would consider setting up application portals -- something like the apple app store. Local developers would submit applications that would be vetted and if approved, availed on the portals for download to their customers. There would then be revenue share between developers and the telcos. Everyone wins. Jobs created. Innovation fostered. Telcos make money. Pipe dream?

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NCUC Press Release on Our Letter to ICANN
by Gakuru Alex 03 Sep '09

03 Sep '09

Dear all, As preparations for EA-IGF kicks off... I know Rod Beckstrom, the New President & CEO of ICANN listens to all Internet stakeholder thus I am inclined to believe that he will grant NCUC audience at Seoul, Korea Next month. He is conscious that the New gTLD Program - a substantial shift in the domain name system, requires very thorough consideration to ensure that all the sectors in the community participation, and all potential issues are understood and resolved before launch next year. The New gTLD are name-like, such as .coders, .network, .business, .kenya, .africa, etc. ICANN is further refining the next version of the Draft Applicant Guidebook that will explain how the New gTLD implementation will be done. I'll post a download link once it's ready. But most importantly, he is committed to the Internet community’s continuing participation to make the New gTLD Program enhance competition and choice for Internet users, broaden regional participation through the introduction of IDNs and community based TLDs, and protects the rights and interests of all. In view of the above, I am convinced that the below NCUC request will be granted a hearing. Sincerely, Alex Gakuru NCUC-Kenya, ICT Consumers Association of Kenya ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robin Gross <robin(a)ipjustice.org> Date: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:39 PM Subject: NCUC Press Release on Our Letter to ICANN To: NCUC-DISCUSS(a)listserv.syr.edu Dear All, Below is NCUC's press release regarding our letter to the ICANN Board of Directors and CEO. It is also posted to the NCUC website here. Please feel free to re-distribute it, blog it, re-post, translate, etc. the press release so we can have the widest possible distribution of our letter and the concerns it relays. Thanks, Robin NCUC Press Release FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 3 September 2009 Public Interest Groups in ICANN Appeal to New President For Fairer Treatment For Civil Society The organization that represents Non-Commercial Internet Users in the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) issued an open letter to the Board this week, expressing concern about the possible failure of ICANN's attempt to balance the representation of commercial and noncommercial interests. California (United States) – ICANN’s Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC), a group of 152 non-commercial organizations and individuals from 52 countries who represent the noncommercial interests of Internet users in ICANN policy development, recently appealed to ICANN's Board of Directors and CEO to meet with them in Seoul to resolve serious problems with its current plans to alter the representation of noncommercial interests in its policy making process. Specifically, NCUC’s letter expressed concern over ICANN’s adoption of a flawed charter for noncommercial users that disregarded the vast majority of public comments and concerns expressed by noncommercial Internet users. In late July 2009 ICANN’s Board decided to approve the NCSG charter drafted by ICANN staff, rather than the charter drafted by civil society in a 7-month long consensus process that included a wide variety of noncommercial interests and was submitted to ICANN’s Board by the NCUC. ICANN’s staff did not provide its board with the competing charter submitted by NCUC in order to properly inform the board’s decision. The difference between staff’s charter and civil society’s charter is stark. Staff’s charter ties council representation and resources to arbitrary and more easily manipulated constituencies, while the NCUC charter calls for stakeholder group wide elections of its noncommercial representatives and other leaders. NCUC’s charter model encourages consensus building among constituencies, while staff’s charter model encourages divisiveness and favoritism among noncommercial interests. “ICANN’s decision has resulted in significant damage to ICANN’s credibility within global civil society and has fueled further distrust towards ICANN’s decision making process,” said NCUC Chair Robin Gross. “Its treatment of noncommercial users in this instance has significantly called into question ICANN’s legitimacy to govern and its ability to protect the global public interest,” said Gross, Executive Director of digital rights group IP Justice, a NCUC member since 2004. The board’s adoption of the stakeholder group charter is part of ICANN’s ongoing effort to re-organize its Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), which currently consists of 5 commercial constituencies and 1 non-commercial constituency, the NCUC. ICANN’s GNSO is responsible for developing policy recommendations that relate to Generic Top-Level Domains (GTLDs) or those domain names that end in .com, .net, .edu, and .org. The GNSO plays an important role on Internet-related policy issues since its recommendations affect all who own or use GTLDs, including the way domain names can be registered, used, transferred, and any applicable fees and associated policies regarding the domain names. The process of changing the GNSO’s structure from 6 constituencies to 4 stakeholder groups is expected to be complete by the end of October 2009. In its letter the NCUC states that “there is a misunderstanding over non-commercial representation and participation in ICANN” and NCUC calls on ICANN to acknowledge that there has been significant growth among noncommercial participants at ICANN recently. NCUC’s membership has grown by 240% since 2008 and now includes 75 noncommercial organizations and 77 individuals. An independent study by the London School of Economics verified that NCUC has the highest number of different people on the GNSO Council of any ICANN constituency and that NCUC has the most geographical diversity among its membership with members now from 52 different countries. “NCUC represents an extremely broad range of noncommercial Internet users, including educational and academic institutions, human rights organizations, libraries, consumer groups, religious organizations, bloggers, open source software developers, development-oriented groups, arts organizations, and other noncommercial interests,” explained Dr. Milton Mueller, an Internet governance expert. Dr. Mueller, now a professor at Syracuse University School of Information Studies and Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands, co-founded the constituency in 2002. "Nonprofits and public interest advocacy groups have an irreplaceable role to play in a self-regulatory scheme dominated by business interests. Someone has to look out for the public interest. If we handicap noncommercial voices and divide them into competing silos they simply won't be able to participate effectively. ICANN's legitimacy and the quality of its decisions will suffer," explained Dr. Mueller. In order to dispel pervasive myths about civil society’s role in ICANN, the NCUC published a “Top 10 Myths about Civil Society Participation in ICANN,” a document that explains why much of what ICANN staff and other constituencies have claimed about noncommercial participation is untrue. For additional information on NCUC and noncommercial participation in ICANN, please contact NCUC’s Chair Robin Gross or visit NCUC’s website at http://ncdnhc.org. Contact: Robin Gross, NCUC Chair Milton Mueller, NCUC Co-Founder Tel.: +1-415-553-6261 Tel: +1-315-443-5616 Email: robin – at - ipjustice.org Email: Mueller – at – syr.edu More Info: Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC): http://ncdnhc.org NCUC’s Letter to ICANN Board of Directors and CEO: http://ncdnhc.org/profiles/blogs/ncuc-letter-to-icann-board-of NCUC’s “Top 10 Myths About Civil Society Participation in ICANN”: http://ncdnhc.org/profiles/blogs/top-10-myths-about-civil About the Noncommercial Users Constituency: The NCUC is the home for civil society organizations and individuals in the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO). With real voting power in ICANN policy-making and Board selection, it develops and supports positions that favor non-commercial communication and activity on the Internet. The NCUC is open to non-commercial organizations and individuals involved in education, community networking, public policy advocacy, development, promotion of the arts, children's welfare, religion, consumer protection, scientific research, human rights and many other areas. NCUC maintains a public website at http://ncdnhc.org. ### IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin(a)ipjustice.org _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers

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Refurbs Debate
by Tom musili 03 Sep '09

03 Sep '09

Dear All, We at Computers for Schools Kenya have been very closely following the debate on "affordable" computers - particularly with reference to refurbs. Many of the comments are informed and no doubt well intentioned, but many others have left us wringing our hands in despair! CFSK has been working for the last seven years to bring the benefits of ICT to resource-challenged educational & training institutions and community information access & resource centres. At our foundation, based on objective and empirical research, we sought to design an intervention model that would meet the needs of the client group within their resource limitations without unduly compromising quality of access or service. After reviewing several options (details of which I will not go into), we narrowed down quality refurbs from reputable sources as the way to go. Our decision was informed by the following: Intervention models in other countries. We were particularly impressed by the Computers for Schools Canada Programme and a similar programme in Colombia and Chile - all of which had achieved immense success in taking computers to educational institutions and community information centres such as libraries. Though these three were the biggest such organised interventions virtually all other countries in the West as well as the Asian Tigers had similar programmes but on a smaller scale. ALL were utilising refurbs from the corporate and related sectors that of necessity have to stay right on the cutting edge of ICT, and therefore have available functional albeit older PCs available from time to time as they upgrade. The needs of the target groups and the use to which they were going to put the computers ands related accessories they would obtain through us. We established that the refurbs we were able to obtain would meet their requirements: run Windows, run MS Office Suite, run the educational eContent available, and access the Internet where other requisite infrastructure was in place. Functionality of the equipment. CFSK was able to enter into partnerships with reputable organisations overseas that guaranteed that only quality and fully functional refurbs were imported by us. Working with these partners, we have over time revised the minimum specs for such equipment that we will accept - starting off with PIs when we started off in 2002 to our present day minimum of PIVs with at least 256MB of RAM and 20GB HDD. As part of that process, we even anticipate that from the second quarter of next year, we shall only accept TFT and not CRT monitors. Affordability, which we very deliberately put last. All listers will remember that it is only in the last four to five years that the Government has made substantive budgetary allocations for ICTs in the kinds of institutions I am talking about and very wisely too. In 2002 when we started, money for ICTs had to be raised by the institutional community from their meagre resources or from corporate and other donors. And even the allocations now being made by Government to these institutions, generous as they may be amidst all the other pressing needs, are not enough to saturate them with ICTs at the required level. Refurbs offered and still offer an affordable option that gives good value for money. To allege that refurbs constitute dumping is to be simplistic to a fault. Where the refurbs are not functional, do not meet the needs of the recipients, or are not good value for money, then that would be dumping - and it maybe that a certain amount of this is happening. But to condemn refurbs en masse, is to fail to acknowledge that this country's nascent digital revolution is as a result of these much maligned equipment - not outrageously priced brand new equipment. At CFSK we are for quality, and preferably new, computers. Admittedly, it would be lovely to provide all our institutions with ultra-modern 2.0GHz Duo Core computers with 2GB RAM and 200GB on the HDD, etc. And where they can afford them, especially with the Government's very welcome intervention in allocating resources for the purpose, we are glad to help them acquire quality brand new equipment. However, where an institution has limited resources, we must ask the questions: do they NEED the immense capacity that brand new computers at current "standard" specs provide, and should they expend limited resources on such capacity when they may in fact not need it? Being cognizant of the fact that ALL electronics, new and refurbished, ultimately become eWaste, CFSK working with both local and international partners has established and eWaste Management Centre. This Centre, through innovative disassembly, reuse, recycling and re-export is managing ICT-related eWaste in a manner that is protective of the environment and mindful of public health. Up-scaling and out-scaling initiatives such as this will ensure we are all protected from the hazards of electronic waste, including that which begun its life as brand new equipment. Eltimately, as one of the listers very wisely suggested, what is required is a level-headed consultation amongst ALL stake holders - civil society, commercial enterprises, a sampling of end users and the regulatory authorities - with a view to defining a rational policy in this area that advances rather than stunts the pivotal sector. We would be ardent participants. Thank you, Tom Musili Executive Director -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computers for Schools Kenya Semco Business Park | Unit 1, Mombasa Road | P.O. Box 48584-00100 | Nairobi , Kenya | Tel:254(0)202060919, Tel/Fax: 254 (0)20 2060920 Mobile (0)722-618788|Email:tom@cfsk.org|Website: www.cfsk.org

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Fw: NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010
by Matunda Nyanchama 02 Sep '09

02 Sep '09

FYI From: charlainev(a)ikapamedia.co.za To: charlainev(a)ikapamedia.co.za Subject: NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 08:40:51 +0200 NEPAD ICT AFRICA SUMMIT 2010 Scheduled for 9th – 11th February 2010 Cape Town International Convention Centre, Cape Town, South Africa NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010 is a NEPAD Council and NEPAD Secretariat continental Information and Communications Technologies (ICT) event addressing a wide range of ICT issues in Africa. Building on the successes of the last three NEPAD ICT Africa Summits, NEPAD Council together with the NEPAD Secretariat and African Events Company iKapa Media and partners, will again raise flags to organize the NEPAD ICT Africa Summit, indeed making it possible for suppliers to meet ICT decision makers of the continent at one location and, furthermore to show competence by making a professional presentation in accordance with international standards. Over 2000 high level delegates and 350 exhibitors will take part in a well placed agenda which will include plenary sessions, thematic breakaway sessions and one-to-one business meetings between participants and NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010 exhibitors. Key Objectives: NEPAD ICT Africa Summit aims to mobilize the key stakeholders and actors in the ICT sector including: · Stakeholders in Information Systems: Health, Community, Government and Business Informatics · Communication and Technology systems: Broadcasters, Telecommunications, Internet, Software and Hardware NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010 aims at promoting and supporting business opportunities in the sector of Information and Communication Technologies (ICT) in order to encourage further growth and development in African countries. Africa needs this summit now. The successful execution of the programme will require the mobilisation of a broad spectrum of resourceful actors and stakeholders both in Africa and the rest of the world. It is going to be a wonderful experience hosting an event of such a magnitude on South African soil and we will be more than satisfied to receive your endorsement and support. Your collaboration and partnership will definitely take the ICT agenda to greater heights in terms of its focus as well as its depth.We are committed to creating platforms that bring about economic development for the continent. With such a vision, the company has been working with various stakeholders and economic development practitioners in Africa in identifying critical areas that require further engagement to fast track the continents economic development,ICT is one of these critical components. In this regard, NEPAD Council and its partners wish to invite you and members of your organization to participate in the summit and to use the opportunity to showcase your business. In addition, you can co-operate with us during NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010 in any of the following ways: Plenary session:-Participate in a plenary session of interest to your firm/agency. Sponsorship:- NEPAD ICT Africa Summit will give you an opportunity for your organization to increase your visibility/awareness by making your name and corporate logo visible to the entire target audience before, during and after the summit. Specialized trade fair & exhibition:-You have the possibility of participating at the planned specialized exhibition. This will be a unique platform for your organisation to promote your services and network with the right target group and a highly focused audience. Delegate:- You can participate as a delegate attending the summit on behalf of your respective institutions or individually. Delegates are given the opportunity to participate at one of the breakaway sessions, and contribute to various discussions. Please find the attached relevant information pertaining to the summit for your reference and to find out more about our sponsorship and participation packages please contact the undersigned. Kind regards, Charlaine van der Byl Project Manager Tel: +27 21 802 1191 Mobile: +27 73 037 8115 Fax: +27 86 564 7906 Email: charlainev(a)ikapamedia.co.za registration(a)ictafricasummit.co.za Website: www.ictafricasummit.co.za Skype: charlyvdb1

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Kenya IGF Meeting
by John K. Njoroge 02 Sep '09

02 Sep '09

Dear All@Kictanet: Yesterday, I learnt alot at the Kenya IGF meeting. As a young youth, I desire to be an IG Actor for Kenya, East Africa and Africa as a whole (if not globally). So, I thank the organizers for a well-organized meeting and a team that is really forward thinking and ready to join a Global Cause. As one of ISOC Ambassadors to the 4th IGF meeting in Egypt (representing Kenya), I salute and congratulate all of you at Kictanet and further, I encourage you to keep on keeping on and to keep up with the good work: Alice, Walubengo, Dr. Kerretts, Vincent and especially the CCK Chairman as well as our ICT MP and Chair of the Energy and ICTs Committee in Parliament. The future is bright, and the best is yet to come. Thank you very much. Kind regards -- John K. Njoroge Directorate of e-Government Office of the President Tel: 020-2227411 (Ext 22098) 0721962744/0770121699 Other Email: kabogojn(a)kenya.go.ke; john.njoroge(a)e-government.go.ke; kabogojn(a)hotmail.com

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Re: [kictanet] Internet Governance
by Jane Kagiri 02 Sep '09

02 Sep '09

Hallo, Please help me understand,when we discuss Internet Policy making in the context of Internet Governance what are we exactly refering to? Is it governance on domain names,intelectual property rights,root server management,internet security,spam or is it all the above. This is also in connection to what issues will be up for discussion at the EAIGF to be held from 7-9 September 2009? Where do I register to attend the EAIGF conference? Jane Kagiri Catritone Office Solutions

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BBC Digital Planet wants views on Africa internet
by wesley kirinya 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

I was listening to Digital Planet, a BBC radio program, a few minutes ago and they are inviting views from Africa about the internet (quality), fibre optic, opportunities and anything related to that. Details at www.bbcworldservice.com/digitalplanet Listen to the lattest episode, at the end of the episode. 8~)

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Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya
by Vincent Ngundi 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

Dear Colleagues, The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet), the Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) in collaboration with other organisations are pleased to invite you to the second East African Internet Governance Forum (EA-IGF 2009) to be held at the Jacaranda hotel in Nairobi, Kenya, from 7th to 9th September 2009. The programme and programme summary are available from the EA-IGF website: www.eaigf.or.ke. The forums theme is: Advancing the Internet Governance Debate in East Africa: ³Thinking Globally; Acting Locally². The 2009 EA-IGF is a follow up to the inaugural EA-IGF that was held in November 2008 in Nairobi, which aimed at catalysing the internet governance debate in the East African sub region. With the increased access to broadband infrastructure in the East Africa region and the continued spread of sophisticated mobile services, understanding and addressing Internet policy issues has become a priority. The national and regional EA-IGF¹s will help prepare East African stakeholders to address the opportunities, strengths and challenges that arise, as well as ensuring that they have a voice in shaping Internet policy decisions at the global level. This year¹s EAIGF therefore seeks to continue to strengthen the national and regional dialogues on Internet Governance as well as; * Increase awareness of Internet Governance issues, including but not limited to local content and cyber security; * Continue to develop capacity and skills of various stakeholders and build regional consensus IG issues; and * Begin to discuss the development of a regional East African Communication policy, among others. The outcomes of the forum will be submitted to the East Africa Regulatory, Postal and Telecommunications Organization (EARPTO), the African Parliamentary Knowledge Network (APKN), as well as, the fourth United Nations Internet Governance Forum (UNIGF) taking place in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, in November 2009. The EA-IGF will also set the stage for the 37th Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) meeting to be held in Nairobi, Kenya, in March 2010. For planning purposes, please register for the meeting at http://www.eaigf.or.ke or send an email to meeting(a)eaigf.or.ke confirming your attendance; by 2nd September 2009. Kind Regards, ----------- Vincent Ngundi Administrative Manager KENIC - The Kenya Network Information Centre http://www.kenic.or.ke vincent(a)kenic.or.ke [T] +254 20 4450057/8 [C] +254 20 2398036 [M] +254 733 790073 [F] +254 20 4450087 ³dot KE for Every Name in Kenya!² ################

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Yes You Can! Monopolies and Prices Commission of Kenya and CCK
by Gakuru Alex 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

"Unlike Mr Nyarunda he differed on the pricing issue and is asking the Monopolies and Prices Commission of Kenya to protect small business who are fearful of cartel-like practices given the small number of players controlling the cables." ... http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/647922/-/ite… Under sections 23 and 47 of the Kenya Communications Act of 1998, the Commission is required to ensure that communications services are provided throughout Kenya and that the interests of all users of these services are protected with respect to prices charged for and the quality and variety of those services among other responsibilities http://www.cck.go.ke/consumer_center/

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Affordable computers
by Evans Ikua 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

Dear listers, I have reliably learnt that the Uganda Government banned he importation of used computers in that country in the last budget. Then I remember that the PS, Dr Ndemo, said that the reason why we are paying 25% duty on used computers in Kenya is because there is an East African protocol that demands that used computers must be taxed. I also remember that the PS has in various fora indicated that its in the best interest of his Ministry and the country to put as much hardware in the hands of the people as possible. Having observed in the past that this 25% duty on used computers runs counter to OUR strategy to become an ICT powerhouse globally, its now clear that we must break from any agreements that we have with our neighbours that do not tie in with our own strategies. For instance, if Uganda bans used computers, will we be bound to follow suit? What if they don't have similar strategies or objectives and they don't care about having their citizens access computers?. Haven't we already done this as far as used motor vehicles are concerned? whereas our neighbours have an age limit of 10 years, we have stuck to our 8 years and the community is still strong. -- Evans Ikua, Chairman, Linux Professional Association of Kenya Tel: +254-20-2250381, Cell: +254-722 955 831 Eagle House, 2nd Floor Kimathi Street, Opp. Corner House www.lpakenya.org

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Secure ICT 2009 Conference 1 Week to go!
by Evans Kahuthu 31 Aug '09

31 Aug '09

Dear Listers, We have one more week to go before the Secure ICT Conference. *What is Secure ICT Conference?* Secure ICT conference is a pre-emptive move aimed at bringing awareness to all ICT stakeholders as to the risk involved with the internet especially now that we are finally wired to the rest of the world through the fibre optic cable. This conference will provide information technology and communication professionals and managers with the latest information on cyber security threats, trends, tools and strategies for protection of critical information technology and communications assets. Among the topics to be covered include: *· **OWASP's Ten Most Critical Web Application Security Vulnerabilities.* *· **Wireless Penetration Testing* *· **Securing Authentication of Web-Applications and E-Transactions through Biometric Technology* · *Assessing Risk:** Conducting Vulnerability Assessment* *· **Global Threats to Information and Telecommunication Systems* *· **Measuring pay-off of IT investment* *· **Protection of Intellectual Property: A vital tool for encouraging development.* · *Managing Risk:** Setting up an ICT Security Program* *· **Online Fraud and Risk Management*** *Conference Dates & Location:* Sept 8-9, 2009 at the Laico Regency Hotel (Grand Regency)** *Keynote Speakers:* · Dr. Javier Torner – Information Security Officer, California State University · Dr. Conrad Shayo- Professor, Information & Decision Sciences, California State University · Dr. Tapie Rohm, Director & Professor, Inland Commerce and Security Institute, California State University. · Dr. Isaac Rutenberg- Patent Agent, Mintz Levin Cohn Ferris Glovsky & Popeo PC *Registration Fee:* USD: 250.00 or Kshs. 19,000 inclusive of VAT per attendee. *Students, Skunkworks and NSP Members kshs. 10,000. inclusive of VAT per attendee. Education Institutions and Digital Villages Members kshs. 12,000.* For more information: http://secureict.co.ke or email: info(a)secureict.co.ke Regards, Evans**

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Re: [kictanet] My Take: Affordable computers
by Evans J. Nyagah 29 Aug '09

29 Aug '09

Well done Tim BR Evans ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Mwololo Tim Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:50 PM To: Evans J. Nyagah Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] My Take: Affordable computers Dear all, I have scanned the inputs made yesterday on used computers, although I could not go through all of them. In my view, the problem is beyond new/locally assembled PCs against imported re-conditioned computers. The biggest problem is that of a time bomb in terms of e-waste. A study I led on e-waste in 2007 showed that at that time, Kenya generated at least 3,000 tons of e-waste every year (a copy is attached). I am sure you can see the problem if you consider a number of years. It gets worse if you consider that the number of PCs are growing every year. From this point of view, a policy is necessary on e-waste. A second issue is the life of an assembled clone vis-a-vis that of re-conditioned computer. Has anyone done any study? Can they share the results. I bought many locally assembled PCs and many of the them developed lots of problems and their life in a busy user environment is relatively low. I did this long time ago and I cannot recall the average life. The cost of ownership kept on increasing. I have also tried re-conditioned brand computers and I am monitoring their life. I am tempted to do a study. The other issue is developing local capacity for ICT technology development. Many countries started from the assembly route with a strategy to develop local capacity. Do we really have a strategy? Putting 25% duty on used computers is not a strategy. It would make sense if it was part of a comprehensive strategy either aimed at developing local capacity for technology development or something. It does not even start to address our e-waste problem. A few words on a staurday afternoon. tim waema On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: Good points being raised here the more reason as to why we need a multistakeholder approach to address the issue by finding common ground, we cannot demonise used computers in a blanket manner, more so when ICT is a critical component in Vision 2030, they are certainly playing a critical role, as it turns out "affordability" is ambiguous On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Bildad Kagai <billkagai(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Gakuru Alex wrote: Why Bill, when all I am doing is to protect those your rights you used to sell every one of your previously owned computing/internet connection equipment that you 'dumped on innocent souls':-) Good point Alex. After two years of aggressive business I will book an appointment with Ambassador Kiplagat and confess to my role in contributing to e-waste and why my role is part of FUTURE historical injustice for future generations. That will give me a clean conscience knowing that I can mess as much I can after all the truth justice and reconciliation commission will forgive me for that. Lets plunder our Kenya....justice is in the offing. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gm ail.com -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com ICANN accredited registrar. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: timwololo(a)gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/timwololo%40gmail.c om ##################################################################################### Scanned by MailMarshal - Marshal's comprehensive email content security solution. Download a free evaluation of MailMarshal at www.marshal.com #####################################################################################

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Re: [kictanet] .ke ccTLD statistics so faf
by vincent＠kenic.or.ke 28 Aug '09

28 Aug '09

Dear Kennedy, You can find the most recent and detailed dot KE statistics at: http://www.kenic.or.ke/statistics. We're currently at 11385 domains. Kind Regards, ----------- Vincent Ngundi Administrative Manager KENIC - The Kenya Network Information Centre http://www.kenic.or.ke vincent(a)kenic.or.ke [T] +254 20 4450057/8 [C] +254 20 2398036 [M] +254 733 790073 [F] +254 20 4450087 dot KE for Every Name in Kenya! On 8/27/09 3:24 PM, "kennedy waweru" <kenne2ke(a)gmail.com> wrote: greetings, Anyone with information on current number of domain names registered under .ke ccTLD? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: vincent(a)kenic.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/vincent%40kenic.or.ke

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.ke ccTLD statistics so faf
by kennedy waweru 27 Aug '09

27 Aug '09

greetings, Anyone with information on current number of domain names registered under .ke ccTLD?

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
by Barrack Otieno 27 Aug '09

27 Aug '09

Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following *The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment.* While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance *"how can you govern what you dont know?" *(thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered * Publications and Statistics * The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I > acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of > internet governance is an important tool in national development. > > The organizers did a commendable job altogether! > > Regards, > > Solomon Mburu > P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > > *Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all > the same way to the side of a hill!* > > AND > > *It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous > generosity! > * > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail… > > -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com ICANN accredited registrar.

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Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya
by Vincent Ngundi 27 Aug '09

27 Aug '09

Dear Colleagues, The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet), the Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) in collaboration with other organisations are pleased to invite you to the second East African Internet Governance Forum (EA-IGF 2009) to be held at the Jacaranda hotel in Nairobi, Kenya, from 7th to 9th September 2009. The forums theme is: Advancing the Internet Governance Debate in East Africa: ³Thinking Globally; Acting Locally². The 2009 EA-IGF is a follow up to the inaugural EA-IGF that was held in November 2008 in Nairobi, which aimed at catalysing the internet governance debate in the East African sub region. With the increased access to broadband infrastructure in the East Africa region and the continued spread of sophisticated mobile services, understanding and addressing Internet policy issues has become a priority. The national and regional EA-IGF¹s will help prepare East African stakeholders to address the opportunities, strengths and challenges that arise, as well as ensuring that they have a voice in shaping Internet policy decisions at the global level. This year¹s EAIGF therefore seeks to continue to strengthen the national and regional dialogues on Internet Governance as well as; * Increase awareness of Internet Governance issues, including but not limited to local content and cyber security; * Continue to develop capacity and skills of various stakeholders and build regional consensus IG issues; and * Begin to discuss the development of a regional East African Communication policy, among others. The outcomes of the forum will be submitted to the East Africa Regulatory, Postal and Telecommunications Organization (EARPTO), the African Parliamentary Knowledge Network (APKN), as well as, the fourth United Nations Internet Governance Forum (UNIGF) taking place in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, in November 2009. The EA-IGF will also set the stage for the 37th Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) meeting to be held in Nairobi, Kenya, in March 2010. For planning purposes, please register for the meeting at http://www.eaigf.or.ke or send an email to meeting(a)eaigf.or.ke confirming your attendance; by 2nd September 2009. Kind Regards, ----------- Vincent Ngundi Administrative Manager KENIC - The Kenya Network Information Centre http://www.kenic.or.ke vincent(a)kenic.or.ke [T] +254 20 4450057/8 [C] +254 20 2398036 [M] +254 733 790073 [F] +254 20 4450087 ³dot KE for Every Name in Kenya!²

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