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Internet prices in countries without submarine fiber
by Brian Munyao Longwe 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

Just in case some people might be complaining about their internet prices in Kenya! These are the prices in Burundi. 128k shared : 128 Usd 128k dedicated : 375 Usd 256k shared : 200 Usd 256k dedicated : 725 Usd Mblayo

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Re: [kictanet] Could this be the next revolution in Africa????
by Edwin Onchari 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

Again, what role does ICT play in bringing this change? In dictating how we are governed? In ensuring that our new constitution is followed to the letter? In getting the masses educated, so they do not get to elect sycophants to higher offices? Ed From: Dennis Kioko [mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:21 AM To: Edwin Onchari Cc: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Could this be the next revolution in Africa???? We had our chance in 2007 but chose it to go at different tribes, that is farthest we could see our problems coming from. At the same time. politicians in Kenya, however how much the urban population may hate them, are dutifully elected and appointed to their positions. As voters, we may lack a basis to demonstrate against people we had a choice to vote for. What may be the solution is voter education.

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Could this be the next revolution in Africa????
by Edwin Onchari 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

I hope the waves that are sweeping Egypt; Tunisia and Algeria are headed south and that ICT has a role in it!!..it might be the solution that many of us in Kenya and indeed Africa have been looking for, for such a long time! "The people' taking back their lives! I hope we can do the same..desperately! E

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E-Gov services in Kilifi
by [Brainiac] 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

Hello listers, A while back i read somewhere that a number of centers had been deployed countrywide through the partnership of the ICT board and some service providers. Im in need of info on where the nearest one to kilifi town is located. It is a shame, that today i finally meet someone that lost an ID card go to the police station and get denied an abstract, actually asked to come back in november (obviously a ploy to solicit monies). (I can give the names and numbers of the officers to whomever can act on it but that is besides the point). My point is, 1: Can the abstract be printed from the net and taken there to be filled by those guys (of course with a pen and ink for the stamp just in case). 2: After that, is there a way of ensuring this process is more transparent? (I checked the http://www.identity.go.ke website but there seem to be bugs on the search box). Anyone with a suggestion on how to do this better to please assist... -- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”* ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696

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Re: [kictanet] Internet prices in countries without submarine fiber
by toby＠law-democracy.org 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

These prices are not reasonable. In East Timor, which is a tiny very underdeveloped country a long way from major centres and supplied only by satellite you can get 512k from the official supplier for $200. But you can get it from 'informal' suppliers for $50. Toby > Just in case some people might be complaining about their internet prices > in > Kenya! These are the prices in Burundi. > > 128k shared : 128 Usd > 128k dedicated : 375 Usd > 256k shared : 200 Usd > 256k dedicated : 725 Usd > > > Mblayo > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: toby(a)law-democracy.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/toby%40law-democracy.o… > ___________________________________ Toby Mendel Centre for Law and Democracy toby(a)law-democracy.org Tel: +1 902 431-3688 Fax: +1 902 431-3689 www.law-democracy.org

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Re: [kictanet] Internet prices in countries without submarine fiber
by toby＠law-democracy.org 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

These prices are not reasonable. In East Timor, which is a tiny very underdeveloped country a long way from major centres and supplied only by satellite you can get 512k from the official supplier for $200. But you can get it from 'informal' suppliers for $50. Toby > Just in case some people might be complaining about their internet prices > in > Kenya! These are the prices in Burundi. > > 128k shared : 128 Usd > 128k dedicated : 375 Usd > 256k shared : 200 Usd > 256k dedicated : 725 Usd > > > Mblayo > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: toby(a)law-democracy.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/toby%40law-democracy.o… > ___________________________________ Toby Mendel Centre for Law and Democracy toby(a)law-democracy.org Tel: +1 902 431-3688 Fax: +1 902 431-3689 www.law-democracy.org

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Re: [kictanet] Safaricom Bonga Points Merchandise
by Linda Muka 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

Your feedback is noted and appreciated. Regards, Linda From: Joseph Mucheru [mailto:jmucheru@google.com] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:56 AM To: Linda Muka Cc: mucheru(a)google.com; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom Bonga Points Merchandise Since we are on this subject, Could you please include the 3G wireless gateway in your Bonga Points system. This is one item that adds huge convenience. -- Joe Mũcherũ Regional Lead, Sub-Saharan Africa On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Linda Muka <LMuka(a)safaricom.co.ke> wrote: Washington, we refer to your comments on the Safaricom Bonga Points loyalty Program. Thank you for your feedback and continued interest in the Safaricom Bonga Points loyalty program. We would like to take this opportunity to provide some clarity on the Bonga Points Loyalty program. We at Safaricom continuously strive to ensure that the matrix is up to date through quarterly reviews. This has been a conscious decision implemented to ensure that we retain and rekindle interest and excitement in the program. As such, we introduced a new reward dubbed ‚ÄúFree Airtime‚Äù last year, which enables customers to redeem their points for various airtime rewards from as little as 100 points. We have recently concluded and advertised the reviewed merchandise and redemption matrix for the first quarter of 2011, to include new devices and bundle rewards. We request that you dial *126*2# to get a full view of the complete list of available rewards. To make the program more inclusive, we have also reduced the redemption threshold from 100 points to 25 points. Customers can now redeem various Minutes, SMS, MMS and Data bundles from as low as 25 Bonga points. On your request that we include the new IDEOS phone into the matrix, we assure you that we shall take this into consideration as we make our review for the next quarter. We shall share the results of that review with the market. All this is actively done in keeping with our promise to give the best experience to our customers in all facets of our operations. Regards, Linda From: kictanet-bounces+lmuka=safaricom.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+lmuka <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Blmuka> =safaricom.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:53 PM To: Linda Muka Cc: Skunkworks forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Safaricom Bonga Points Merchandise Safaricom has done quite some revisions on their tariffs and data bundles but their Bonga points redemption matrix remains unchanged ever since. I have been hoping (and praying) that they can at least revise the merchandise, given that even some of those they list are not anymore in the market (I may be wrong!) but with prices always depreciating, is it not logical that Safaricom put some revision into this loyalty program?? Can Safaricom also make the point system a little bit realistic when compared to the merchandise?? I know they are not under any obligation but I sure can be motivated to "talk more" within "Niko Na.." with the hope that kupiga mdomo kwangu heunda ikanifaidisha vikubwa:-) Maybe they should include the Huawei IDEOS as one of the merchandise;) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! Note: All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricomís Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=954> to read the policy. ________________________________ <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/fileadmin/resources/downloads/SafBanner.gif> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: mucheru(a)google.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mucheru%40google.com ##################################################################################### NOTE: All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricom�s Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here to read the policy. #####################################################################################

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Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Five--tenure of office of Council members )
by toby＠law-democracy.org 30 Jan '11

30 Jan '11

Hi all, I hope you will not mind if I make a few comments on yesterday's discussion before moving on to the topic of today. Sorry to be late again, but I'm sort of in transit (actually, I spent 12 hours in plane yesterday, only to return to my starting point because we could not land at the destination!). The Bill does provide for the appointment of the Chair (section 8(6 or really (7)), but I agree that it would be preferable for the group to appoint its own Chair and this is a common practice. A few comments on the debate about independence, on the one hand, and the role of the judiciary, on the other. I am very sensitive to Lydia's point about capture of these bodies by government and of course the Rwandan Council is a disaster on this point. But to be honest, that was one area where I felt this draft Bill was pretty good. Of course its independence rests heavily on the independence of the judicial bodies and individuals involved, but otherwise, it does have reasonably robust systems, including the ability of anyone, or any group, to nominate and then the shortlisting by the appointing Committee (although I would remove the representatives from the Ministry of Justice and State Law Office from this Committee and replace them with more independent people, probably not from the media, since the other three members are already media representatives). So I see the approach as a bit of a trade-off: perhaps excessive role for the judiciary v. relatively strong guarantees of independence. I note that the role of the JSC is simply to establish the appointing Committee. I'm not sure which other body could be trusted with this. So, my tweaks would be to change the composition of the appointing Committee (which is the most important decision-maker in this process), allow the body to elect its own chair and remove the requirement for the chair to be eligible for appointment as a High Court judge. On today's questions: 1) Grace is right to point out the duplication and to some extent contradiction between sections 7 and 10. Probably they should be integrated. 2) I have already commented on the Chair. I don't see a particular problem with the Chair being reappointed, but there should at least be another election. Best, Toby ___________________________________ Toby Mendel Centre for Law and Democracy toby(a)law-democracy.org Tel: +1 902 431-3688 Fax: +1 902 431-3689 www.law-democracy.org

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Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Five--tenure of office of Council members )
by Racheal Nakitare 30 Jan '11

30 Jan '11

Dear All, I support the merger of section 7 and 10 . They lead to the same thing. On tenure of office, the council members term should be limited to two. The chairmanship can also be limited to 2 especially if the council will be mandated to elect it's chair because they can vote him/ her out after the first term and it will provide good continuity since they will still be members of the council. The council should vote by secret ballot. Good weekend Racheal Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:33 PM, ERICK ngaira <erickngaira(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear All, I agree Section 7 and 10 are more or less a duplication, and should be merged for clarity. In regard to tenure of members , It should only be for a mximun of two terms and a new chair should be elected every term. Election should be by secret ballot by the Council Members. Regards. On 28 January 2011 16:00, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: Listers, There is a duplicate between Article 7 & Article 10 of the Bill. Article 7, provides for the qualification of Chair and other Members of the Council, while Article 10, in a way, provides for the requirements for appointment to the commission. They, as Toby has said, should perhaps be merged. On the question off tenure of the office of Council members, my opinion is they should only be allowed a re-appointment for one morer term to avoid domination and 'over-stays'. Further, the Bill does not provide for the procedures of the election of members apart from the chair. Will they be appointed by the JSC, CJ, KUJ etc? Will the election by proxy, acclamation or secret ballot? I think in line with democratic principles, they should be elected from among the membership sitting at the Council, like what LSK does. To another view, the government reserved a third of positions in public bodies to women. Therefore, does this mean out of the seven members appointed (Article 6), three should be women? If so, just wondering, will the other interested groups - the disabled, marginalized, youth etc - be considered? Nice weekend. On 28/01/2011, toby(a)law-democracy.org <toby(a)law-democracy.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > I hope you will not mind if I make a few comments on yesterday's > discussion before moving on to the topic of today. Sorry to be late again, > but I'm sort of in transit (actually, I spent 12 hours in plane yesterday, > only to return to my starting point because we could not land at the > destination!). > > The Bill does provide for the appointment of the Chair (section 8(6 or > really (7)), but I agree that it would be preferable for the group to > appoint its own Chair and this is a common practice. > > A few comments on the debate about independence, on the one hand, and the > role of the judiciary, on the other. I am very sensitive to Lydia's point > about capture of these bodies by government and of course the Rwandan > Council is a disaster on this point. But to be honest, that was one area > where I felt this draft Bill was pretty good. Of course its independence > rests heavily on the independence of the judicial bodies and individuals > involved, but otherwise, it does have reasonably robust systems, including > the ability of anyone, or any group, to nominate and then the shortlisting > by the appointing Committee (although I would remove the representatives > from the Ministry of Justice and State Law Office from this Committee and > replace them with more independent people, probably not from the media, > since the other three members are already media representatives). So I see > the approach as a bit of a trade-off: perhaps excessive role for the > judiciary v. relatively strong guarantees of independence. I note that the > role of the JSC is simply to establish the appointing Committee. I'm not > sure which other body could be trusted with this. > > So, my tweaks would be to change the composition of the appointing > Committee (which is the most important decision-maker in this process), > allow the body to elect its own chair and remove the requirement for the > chair to be eligible for appointment as a High Court judge. > > On today's questions: > > 1) Grace is right to point out the duplication and to some extent > contradiction between sections 7 and 10. Probably they should be > integrated. > > 2) I have already commented on the Chair. I don't see a particular problem > with the Chair being reappointed, but there should at least be another > election. > > Best, Toby > > > ___________________________________ > Toby Mendel > > Centre for Law and Democracy > toby(a)law-democracy.org > Tel: +1 902 431-3688 > Fax: +1 902 431-3689 > www.law-democracy.org > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: solo.mburu(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device *Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau* ***************************************************** *Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!* AND *It is better to die in dignity than in the ignominy of ambiguous generosity! * http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: erickngaira(a)gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erickngaira%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: rachealnakitare(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rachealnakitare%40yaho…

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Fwd: [Skunkworks] Egypt leaves the Internet
by Barrack Otieno 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

Some food for thought as we prepare for the sixth Internet Governance Forum, i wonder why this is so yet Egypt has been a major player in the global Internet Governance Arena. Best Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Christopher Kiagiri <ck(a)google.com> Date: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:52 AM Subject: [Skunkworks] Egypt leaves the Internet To: "skunkworks(a)my.co.ke" <skunkworks(a)my.co.ke> May this never happen in .ke ... http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml Cheers, - Chris _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Four--Appointment of Chair/Procedure for appointment)
by Racheal Nakitare 27 Jan '11

27 Jan '11

Dear All I'm still rural siaya where power challenges persist hence I will be brief. I agree with most of you that the chair of the council must not be a judge and a legal profession because the council duties are not limited to arbitration. The office of the chief Justice is very busy with enough judicial concerns to address and may nit have time for media. I suggest that the members appoint their chair and the ministry be the appointing authority. According to the new constitution, the ministers won't be political appointees so the minister could perform those duties with the interest of industry players better. There is need to assert journalism the profession and recognition as the fourth estate. Racheal Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Lydia Gachungi <Lydia.Gachungi(a)unesco.unon.org> wrote: Dear Listers, To contribute to this debate, let me start by quoting examples of what’s happening with similar media councils in the region in relation to government appointments . According to various International and regional media watchdog groups, a major challenge for the media especially in this region is the temptation by governments to respond to concerns about eg lack of professionalism and respect for ethical standards in the media with punitive legislation. They argue that this is what has in part informed government moves or attempts to pass restrictive media laws, including the establishment of statutory media councils like the current MCK. These Statutory media councils have ended up doing more to stifle free expression and press freedom than to promote professionalism and standards. If we take an example of the Rwanda’s Media High Council, which is also enshrined in the country’s constitution, and which is arguably the region’s most active statutory media council, although its independence is guaranteed both by the Constitution and the law, various media watchdog groups argue that since its members are appointed by the Cabinet from among representatives of different media stakeholders( 2 private media, 1 public media, 1 civil society, 1-private sector and 2 from central government), that the Media High Council tends to focus more on policing the media more than fulfilling its other mandate of promoting and protecting press freedom. Other statutory councils in the region, such as Uganda’s Media Council and Broadcasting Council attract similar charges of lack of independence or distance from the government, which appoints the members. Notably, many governments in the region have been involved in all these appointment and Kenya is not exceptional. The reality is that as long as the governments are involved in appointments, whether it is the chairman of the MCK or the other representative either by the relevant ministry or judiciary, independence can never be guaranteed. In order to address these challenges, there has been various attempts in different countries to create self-regulatory mechanisms in the region. Tanzania provides perhaps the longest-running self-regulation experience – and one from which lessons could be drawn for other countries in this region. Uganda also saw the establishment of a non-statutory regulatory body, the Independence Media Council of Uganda. However, the statutory Media Council and Broadcasting Council are still active and continue to overshadow the self-regulation mechanism. Rwanda also has the Rwanda Ethics Commission, a self-regulatory body that is a sub-committee of the Rwanda Journalists Association. In that case, for the MCK, the issue of who is the chair or appoints the same may not be as critical as whether their decision will be independent or influenced by the interests they represent in the board like many other statutory bodies in the region . The suggestion that more representatives from the media industry be appointed to the board all the more makes sense to also ensure that the MCK actually serves the people it represents. The board members should also elect their chair on revolving basis rather than having too much of government hand in MCK composition and management of its board meetings . That may then guarantee a degree of independence Lydia ERICK ngaira <erickngaira(a)gmail.com> Sent by: kictanet-bounces+lydia.gachungi=unesco.unon.org(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke 01/27/2011 05:38 PM To Lydia <lydia.gachungi(a)unesco.unon.org> cc kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Four--Appointment of Chair/Procedure for appointment) Dear all I am inclined to believe this was copy paste from the Judicial Service Commission bill,( drafting error) hence the reference to “the Chair of the Commission”. On the other hand, if that is not the case and indeed the drafters intention is to have an advocate as the chair then ,these are my comments . 1.In other jurisdictions , for example , Uganda, Tanzania , Southafrica, etc, - where I believe the drafters were borrowing from , the chair of the council is judge or retired judge, This is mainly because in these jurisdictions it is the Council that hears and determines complaints unlike the MCK. The MCK as constituted by both the 2007 Act and the 2010 Bill creates the Complaints Commission. It is the Commission that hears and determines complaints. The Chairperson of the commission is a person qualified to hold the office of a of the judge of the High Court. Therefore it is not necessary to make the chair of the Council a judge, even if the drafters were contemplating an appeal from the Commission to the Council, as provided for in section 33 of the bill, the Council already has a an advocate as a member and the can sit on the appeals Committee. In view of this, the position of Chairperson should be open to anyone sitting on the Council, and they should be elected by the other Council members. As far as membership to the counci goes, It would be prudent to have each of the professional bodies drawn from those professions listed under Section7(c) among other stakeholders, nominate someone to serve on the Council with a minimum number reserved for media profffesionals. 2. On he JSC being the appointing authority, I believe the idea was to make the MCK independent from the government in the spirit of article 34(5), however this is inconsistent with the provisions of article 172 that outline the mandate of the JSC. To that extent the provision is null and void as provided for in article 2(4) of the Constitution. On 27/01/2011, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > On 27 January 2011 15:32, k.k. ombati <kaykerubo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> Firstly,I think its unrealistic to decide that the chairman of the MCK >> must be lawyer and one qualified to be a judge at that.That is too >> exclusive...i think the postion of chairperson should be open to >> anyone sitting on the Council. >> > > I agree. The Chair of MCK should not be a person of the position of a judge > or a lawyer, because, essentially, if we let lawyers and judges be the > chairs of constitutional bodies, the other professionals will feel left > out. This exclusivity should be avoided. > Still on article 7(c), I find it rather 'choosy'. Ten years experience? > Doesn't that lock out other interested groups - the youth to be specific - > from serving in this Council? > > > >> Secondly,the Act has failed to state how the appointment of >> chairperson will be done,will it by election by existing council >> members or nomination or are they to be appointed by the appointing >> authority. >> >> thirdly,to mandate the JSC to appoint members of the MCK is oustide >> the constitutional mandate of the JSC,I would propose that >> professional bodies drawn from those professions listed under >> Section7(c) together with KUJ,Editors Guild and Media Owners >> Association etc...each nominate someone to take up a position in MCK >> with a number of seats,say four,reserved for media professionals only. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Good Morning Listers, >> > >> > >> > >> > Welcome to day four of our debate. >> > >> > >> > >> > Today, we will focus on the appointment of the Chairperson of the Media >> > Council, and procedure for appointment of Council Members. >> > >> > >> > >> > The Appointment of the Chairperson Article 7 (2) >> > >> > The chairperson of the Commission shall be a person who is qualified to >> hold >> > the office of judge of the High Court under the Constitution. >> > >> > >> > >> > Question: Should the Chair of a Media Council be drawn from the legal >> > profession? >> > >> > >> > >> > Article 8 (1) The Chief Justice shall, within fourteen days of the >> > commencement of this Act, and every time vacancies shall arise in the >> > Council, by notice in the gazette declare such vacancies in the Council >> and >> > request for applications. >> > >> > (2) An application under subsection (1) shall be forwarded to the >> Judicial >> > Service Commission within fourteen days…for purposes of considering >> > applications, interviewing and short listing at least three persons >> > qualified for appointment as chairperson and nine persons qualified for >> > appointment as members. >> > >> > >> > >> > Question: >> > >> > >> > >> > a) Article 161 (2) of Kenya’s constitution states that the Chief >> > Justice is the head of the judiciary. Should his duties also extend >> > into >> > the appointing authority for MCK? >> > >> > >> > >> > b) The mandate of the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) as stated >> > in >> > article 172 of Kenya’s Constitution is for the judiciary. Should JSC >> > then >> > extend its mandate to the Council when its mandate is so clearly stated >> in >> > the Constitution? >> > >> > >> > >> > c) What would be the alternative appointing authority? >> > >> > >> > >> > Once again, we would like to hear your comments/views on these critical >> > issues. >> > >> > >> > >> > Rgds >> > >> > Grace >> > >> > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life >> is >> > all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go >> forth >> > and rule the World! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > kictanet mailing list >> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> > >> > This message was sent to: kaykerubo(a)gmail.com >> > Unsubscribe or change your options at >> > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kaykerubo%40gmail.com >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: solo.mburu(a)gmail.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com >> > > > > -- > *Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau* > > ***************************************************** > *Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the > same way to the side of a hill!* > > AND > > *It is better to die in dignity than in the ignominy of ambiguous > generosity! * > > http://smiley2.wordpress.com > http://mburu.sikika.co.ke > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: lydia.gachungi(a)unesco.unon.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lydia.gachungi%40unesc… _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: rachealnakitare(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rachealnakitare%40yaho…

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Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Three--Composition of Council )
by Racheal Nakitare 27 Jan '11

27 Jan '11

There is need for deliberate emphasis on industry. It is not neccessary to include other professions and if included then five of the seven must belong to the industry. There is also need for clear affirmative action where a third of the seven should be women / men who meet those requirements . Journalism and gender representation is critical. On chapter six of the constitution, the qualities of good leadership are clear. They may not be state officers but should prescribe to leadership and integrity principles. Having distinguished career is relative. Might be hard to measure/ qualify. Thanks Racheal. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Dear Listers Welcome to day 3 of our discussion of the Media Bill in which will tackle two issues namely Composition of the Council (article 6) and Qualifications of Members (Article 7 (1)). Article 7 (2) on appointment of Chairperson will be discussed tomorrow. Today's debate Article 6 states that the Council shall comprise seven members, appointed in accordance with the provisions of this Act. Article 7 (1) states...A person is qualified for appointment…if such a person (c ) have knowledge and experience of at least 10 years including past or continuing membership to industry or other professional body in matters relating to any of the fields: i) Law ii) Journalism iii) Finance iv) Gender and human rights v) Performing arts; or vi) Advertising. Questions: · Should other professions be considered? · Is gender and human rights relevant in this list considering there is mention of one belonging to a professional body? · And is it necessary to actualize gender balance? If so, how? · Out of the seven council members (article 6), are there some who are critical and must be represented in the Council? (d) Meets the requirements of chapter six of the Constitution Question: Chapter six of the constitution is on leadership and integrity and relates to state officers. Is there an assumption then that the council members will be considered state officers? Is this section necessary? (e) Has had a distinguished career in their respective fields. Question: How workable is this? Your suggestions are highly appreciated. Rgds Grace ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: rachealnakitare(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rachealnakitare%40yaho…

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MP[ESA down?
by Michael Ouma 27 Jan '11

27 Jan '11

Hi: I tried to withdraw Kshs 500 via MPESA from Stema Communications Ltd Tsavo Road @ around 3.30pm today. Then got this message: "Failed. There was a problem sending a confirmation SMS to 966002-Stema Communications Ltd Tsavo Road. Ask them to check the phone and try again." I tried to withdraw again and was sent the same message with my balance indicating that the Ksh 500 plus transaction fees had been deducted with no confirmation SMS being sent to either me or the MPESA agent. How can I recover this? Below is my phone number. Michael Ouma Journalist Kenya Tel:+254-725-537823 "Do not go where the path may lead, but go instead where there is no path and leave a trail," - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Overstretched Debate
by John Kieti 27 Jan '11

27 Jan '11

Esteemed Listers, There is need to avoid the risk of the list(s) becoming counterproductive. I think we should avoid over-stretching some of the debates. I am particularly referring to the debate on the MNO price wars touching on Bwana PS and others. Obviously, such overstretched debate has risks of unduly personalizing and politicizing things and ultimately diminishing the relevance of the list. Many legit points have been tabled and relevant government organs seem to have cleared the air in the mainstream media - I think we should move on based on the clarifications Best regards -- My Blog - www.gmeltdown.com ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Keep on doing what you know is right ...

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Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Three--Composition of Council )
by toby＠law-democracy.org 27 Jan '11

27 Jan '11

Hi all, Sorry for weighing in late on this one. I was travelling yesterday and of course the questions went out late. Generally speaking, although I am quite critical of the role of the Media Council re. journalists, and even question the need for such a body, I think the Bill does a pretty good job in terms of setting up the Council and, in particular, of ensuring its independence. Re. the question on areas of expertise, I find the list OK. Other areas such as policy, technology and business might be added. I think expertise on gender and human rights is a very important area. I don't think the focus should be on professional status so much as having a wide range of types of expertise that are relevant to the functions of the Council, most importantly applying the Code of Conduct. For this, what is needed is individuals who can, while understanding the importance of freedom of expression and the way the media functions, for example assess whether particular media output meets acceptable standards of taste (para. 9 of the Code), covers ethnic conflict appropriately (para. 11), and respects privacy (para. 13) - these are just random examples. I agree with Grace that it would be useful to include a requirement of gender representation. There was a suggestion that only journalists should be members. This is not appropriate for in this case, it would be a cosy club assessing itself. It is perhaps worth noting that in both of the two examples I gave early (UK and Indonesia), the relevant bodies include non-media members. The UK Press Complaints Commission always has a majority of members, including the Chair, who do not come from the media (even though it was established by the media) while the Indonesian Press Council has 5 members representing journalists, 5 representing media owners and 5 representing the general public (although again, like the PCC, all chosen by the media). Re. Chapter Six of the Constitution, I cannot claim to be an expert in Kenyan constitutional law and I did not even have a change to read these provisions. But when I read that provision in the Media Council Bill, I assumed the chapter set out various objective requirements, such as independent, integrity, etc. I don't think the intention is that members of the Council will be officials (this is just not in keeping with the whole tenor of the Bill). Furthermore, section 9(1)(g) of the Bill would appear to specifically preclude this. Re. distinguished career, I think the idea is to prevent nepotistic appointments (this would provide a basis for challenging an appointee who did not appear to be appropriate), rather than as a strict positive requirement. To this extent, it is probably useful. Toby ___________________________________ Toby Mendel Executive Director Centre for Law and Democracy toby(a)law-democracy.org Tel: +1 902 431-3688 Fax: +1 902 431-3689 www.law-democracy.org On 26 Jan 2011, at 04:27, Grace Githaiga wrote: Dear Listers Welcome to day 3 of our discussion of the Media Bill in which will tackle two issues namely Composition of the Council(article 6) and Qualifications of Members (Article 7 (1)). Article 7 (2) on appointment of Chairperson will be discussed tomorrow. Today's debate Article 6 states that the Council shall comprise seven members, appointed in accordance with the provisions of this Act. Article 7 (1) states...A person is qualified for appointmentif such a person (c ) have knowledge and experience of at least 10 years including past or continuing membership to industry or other professional body in matters relating to any of the fields: i) Law ii) Journalism iii) Finance iv) Gender and human rights v) Performing arts; or vi) Advertising. Questions: · Should other professions be considered? · Is gender and human rights relevant in this list considering there is mention of one belonging to a professional body? · And is it necessary to actualize gender balance? If so, how? · Out of the seven council members (article 6), are there some who are critical and must be represented in the Council? (d) Meets the requirements of chapter six of the Constitution Question: Chapter six of the constitution is on leadership and integrity and relates to state officers. Is there an assumption then that the council members will be considered state officers? Is this section necessary? (e) Has had a distinguished career in their respective fields. Question: How workable is this? Your suggestions are highly appreciated. Rgds Grace ___________________________________ Toby Mendel Centre for Law and Democracy toby(a)law-democracy.org Tel: +1 902 431-3688 Fax: +1 902 431-3689 www.law-democracy.org

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by John Gachagua 26 Jan '11

26 Jan '11

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Media Bill Discussion - Legal Provisions forStorage of Digital Content
by Edith Adera 26 Jan '11

26 Jan '11

Listers, IDRC has been supporting a research study “assessing the effects of ICTs on perceptions about agricultural biotechnology in Africa (case of Kenya and Burkina Faso)”. During this research in Kenya, one of the major challenges was getting agricultural radio scripts of past programs to undertake a content analysis. Most media stations write over their tapes and there is no way of retrieving content for research, and/or future use/posterity. What ever happened to our archiving systems? And preserving our national heritage? There is need for provisions in the law that enforce storage of aired digital content to facilitate related research activities and other “heritage” efforts. With the promotion of local content (60%?), this becomes ever more critical. Edith ________________ Edith Ofwona Adera Senior Program Specialist ICT4D Program and Climate Change & Water Program International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le développement international Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa Tel: +254202713160 | Fax/Téléc: +254202711063 | Skype: edithadera eadera(a)idrc.or.ke<mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke> | www.idrc.ca<http://www.idrc.ca/> | www.crdi.ca<http://www.crdi.ca/> [https://email.idrc.or.ke/owa/attachment.ashx?id=RgAAAAANayfd3%2b2VQYZo%2flc…]

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Registration for the Africa Internet (and Mobile) Entrepreneurs' Conference 2011
by Albert Mucunguzi 26 Jan '11

26 Jan '11

Dear All, Registration for the Africa Internet (and Mobile) Entrepreneurs' Conference, scheduled to take place on March 4, 2011 in Kampala is now open online. You can follow the link below to complete your registration. AFRIEC 2011 Registration page Enquiries can be submitted to the email: afriec(a)pctechmagazine.com Thank you and looking forward to seeing you. _____________________________ Albert Mucunguzi Team Leader PC Tech Magazine Mobile: +256 712 619812 / 782 619812 Website: www.pctechmagazine.com E-Mail: i(a)albertmucunguzi.com Twitter: @albertmuc Facebook: www.facebook.com/almuc Personal Web: www.albertmucunguzi.com Blog: www.pctechmagazine.com/blogs/almuc

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Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Three--Composition of Council )
by Grace Githaiga 26 Jan '11

26 Jan '11

Dear Listers Welcome to day 3 of our discussion of the Media Bill in which will tackle two issues namely Composition of the Council (article 6) and Qualifications of Members (Article 7 (1)). Article 7 (2) on appointment of Chairperson will be discussed tomorrow. Today's debate Article 6 states that the Council shall comprise seven members, appointed in accordance with the provisions of this Act. Article 7 (1) states...A person is qualified for appointment…if such a person (c ) have knowledge and experience of at least 10 years including past or continuing membership to industry or other professional body in matters relating to any of the fields: i) Law ii) Journalism iii) Finance iv) Gender and human rights v) Performing arts; or vi) Advertising. Questions: · Should other professions be considered? · Is gender and human rights relevant in this list considering there is mention of one belonging to a professional body? · And is it necessary to actualize gender balance? If so, how? · Out of the seven council members (article 6), are there some who are critical and must be represented in the Council? (d) Meets the requirements of chapter six of the Constitution Question: Chapter six of the constitution is on leadership and integrity and relates to state officers. Is there an assumption then that the council members will be considered state officers? Is this section necessary? (e) Has had a distinguished career in their respective fields. Question: How workable is this? Your suggestions are highly appreciated. Rgds Grace ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World!

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IGF 2011 - Request for Comments
by waudo siganga 26 Jan '11

26 Jan '11

Dear Colleagues, Arrangements for building the program for the next IGF meeting scheduled to be held in Kenya in September will start with a planning meeting in Geneva 23-24 February. IGF activities are multi-stakeholder bottom-up so listers are invited to send proposals for the Nairobi program to [1]igf(a)unog.ch. The official announcement from the website is below: 2011 Open Consultations and MAG Meeting The next Open Consultations will be held on 23 February, to be followed by a MAG meeting on 24 February which will be open to observers. Both will be held at the Palais des Nations, Geneva, Switzerland. Request for Comments All stakeholders are invited to submit proposals for the programme of the 2011 meeting ([2]igf(a)unog.ch) Inputs received by 7 February 2011 will be reflected in the first draft of a programme paper that will serve as a rolling document during the course of the preparations. References 1. mailto:igf@unog.ch 2. mailto:igf@unog.ch

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Fwd: From Davos world economic forum..
by Paul Kukubo ICT Board 26 Jan '11

26 Jan '11

> The world has been globalized by digitization, and this posses it's own challenges. Worth noting. Wikileaks, Twitter, Facebook. Skype were start-ups just yesterday, and now they are forces for globalization. > > > Jan 25, 2011 -- Updated 0921 GMT (1721 HKT) > What is the 'new reality' faced by the world? > By Paul Armstrong, CNN > > Davos, Switzerland (CNN) -- The global economic crisis exposed fault lines in our capitalist system with such ferocity that even the most optimistic of analysts struggled to predict when -- or even whether -- a full recovery was possible. > > Chastened by this experience, politicians and business leaders concede that the world has changed and a new approach is required to achieve greater prosperity for all. Organizers of the 2011 World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland, say this year's theme, "Shared Norms for the New Reality," reflects this thinking. > > The world goes global > > WEF founder Klaus Schwab explained that this new reality means understanding the impact of globalization and the Internet. "We are now living in a completely digitalized world and a completely globalized world, so we have to find some new mechanisms and values to deal with this post-digitalized and post-globalized world," he told CNN's Richard Quest. > > He stressed the same problems of unemployment and inflation exist but "we deal with those problems in a completely new context. Klaus Schwab: World leaders need to inspire recovery "For example, you have the shift in the geopolitical and geoeconomic center from north to south, WikiLeaks, I could go on and on." > > Volatility and uncertainty > > Nestlé CEO and WEF co-chair Paul Bulke explained the post-crisis reality will require a complete re-think of our priorities and value systems to address the current volatility and uncertainty in the world. > > "In the short term we must manage the debt crisis, we can't continue living beyond our means," he said in an interview posted on the WEF website. "We have to organize ourselves in response to new challenges and refresh our regulations, especially in the developed world. > > "But over-regulation is not a good option. You cannot regulate honesty for example. I'm a true believer in a principled approach to business, rather than an excessively rule-based system which will only asphyxiate initiative and growth. > > "The wiser choice is to agree to share norms for our new reality based on strong and explicit global principles -- the very ingredients needed to fuel development." > > The future for the banking sector > > The banking sector in particular has been a lightning rod for public criticism, after a number of major banks in the United States and Britain received billions of dollars in taxpayer-funded rescue packages at the height of the crisis. Many had been caught out after the collapse of the housing market on both sides of the Atlantic, which exposed a culture of high-risk lending without proper risk management in place. > > Some analysts ventured that lucrative bonuses have encouraged bankers to take greater risks for short-term gains. > > But Bulke also pointed to the progress made by the private sector in the development of emerging economies, which has in return reduced rates of absolute poverty. "The private sector run in a principled way based on strong values and with a long-term perspective is a fundamental force for positive development in society," he said. > > In its 2011 Annual Global Risks Report, the WEF warned the world's economy could not withstand any further shocks to the system and identified 37 main threats to its future stability, from crippling government debt and cyber security, to unsustainable pressure on resources and food security. > > Crisis in the euro zone > > Among the most serious economic risks is the ongoing fiscal crisis in the euro zone -- sparked by countries borrowing and spending beyond their means -- which has spread from Greece to Ireland and Portugal in the past year. > > This prompted other euro zone partners to pump in billions of dollars in bailout packages, as investors worry about governments' ability to repay their debts. Governments have reacted with severe austerity measures which have in turn brought thousands onto the streets to protest. > > Food prices hit record high > > Meanwhile, the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organisation warned that world food prices hit a record high in December, prompting riots in a number of poorer countries, from Mozambique to Algeria. Analysts believe a combination of causes, from environmental factors such as major droughts and wildfires, to a surge in the world's population, have hit global crop prices. > > The report also notes that while globalization has reduced impediments to trade, improved international connections and sustained growth for a generation, it has also increased divisions within countries. > > Internet-enabled mass protests > > But the current generation of ordinary people have been able to voice their discontent like never before, thanks largely to the proliferation of the Internet and social media. Whether it is in Greece, Iran or Tunisia, like-minded people have been able to share information and then mobilize swiftly. > > "We are having to confront so many risks at the same time," said Schwab. > > In order to meet these challenges decision-makers will have to "overcome the behavioral biases towards immediate, short-term solutions and switch to longer term thinking," according to Howard Kunreuther, Co-Director of the Wharton Risk Management and Decision Processes Center. > > In short, future development in the 21st century will have to be more inclusive and collaborative in order to reduce the divisions that threaten food security and increase tensions over trade imbalances. > > A framework for inclusive growth > > According to the WEF, the key to navigating this new reality "will be the shared norms that not only transcend differences across generations, stakeholder groups and geographies in a multi-polar world, but also enable inclusive growth. > > "These norms must be truly shared and integrated into a holistic, interdisciplinary and multidimensional framework. For governments as well as multinational corporations, shared norms provide the compass by which leaders give and receive direction, define benchmarks for acceptable and unacceptable behaviors, and ensure inclusive rather than exclusive outcomes." > > Sent from my iPad

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Apologies - Media council Draft bill 2010
by Odhiambo Washington 26 Jan '11

26 Jan '11

Hello Listers, You may have noticed by now a hiccup on the flow of messages to this forum. This was caused by some DNS related problems that cropped up at our provider's end in the process of trying to address mail delivery failures from other members. This has now been satisfactorily addressed, thanks to the quick reaction from our hosting provider. Allow me to take this early opportunity to s*incerely apologize for the technical mishap*, which has clearly led to a significant lag in the important discussions that were already in motion. Grace Githaiga, the discussions moderator, will now proceed with the remaining legs of the discussions from where they got stalled yesterday afternoon. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, KICTANet Lists Administrator

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Media council Draft bill 2010 (Summary of Day Two discussions)
by Grace Githaiga 26 Jan '11

26 Jan '11

Dear Listers Thanks to all who made contributions to the debate today. Out of the discussion, we have been able to flag the following as issues arising: 1. Are the meaning of the terms 'journalist' and 'journalism' as used in the act, too wide or too narrow? 2. The definition of 'media' and 'media enterprises' in the act does not draw a definite distinction between the two. Also consider the definition of traditional-type media that also disseminate over the Internet to distinguish between them and bloggers. 3. Would the setting of employment criteria for journalists infringe on their freedom of expression? 4. Should there be accreditation of journalists? both foreign and local? 5. Is the definition of 'foreign journalist' as used in the Act too narrow? 6. Are the provisions of Section 4(c),(e),(h) and (i)of the Act too repetitive? We look forward to hearing more from you tomorrow when we discuss the issues of the Composition of th Council and their qualifications. Some people already raised them yesterday and tomorrow we focus the day on them. Kind Regards Grace ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World!

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Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Two discussions)
by toby＠law-democracy.org 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

Hi all, A few comments on todays questions. On the first two questions, we should also look at the definition of media, which includes electronic media engaged in publication for circulation to the public, except for book publishing. Taken together, it seems to me that the definitions clearly include Internet forms of new media, such as bloggers. There are ways to define traditional-type media that also disseminate over the Internet. For example, the Council of Europe (the human rights body for Europe) relies on the notion of an editorial process, which thereby excludes bloggers. Otherwise, I am not sure why we want to distinguish between media content and media enterprises. On the questions about journalists, under international law, it is well-established that it is not legitimate to impose conditions on who may be a journalist. Neither the definition of a journalist in the Bill nor the reference to the Council setting criteria for the employment of journalists meet this standard. Furthermore, the matter of registering journalists is very dubious from the perspective of freedom of expression. It is not just that there are practical problems with this (eg how to capture ad hoc commentators), but the whole idea is offensive to freedom of expression, in part because there is no justifiable reason for doing it. Section 37 is also relevant here, calling for the accreditation of foreign journalists. The import of this is not clear. But if it means that foreign journalists may not report from Kenya on an ad hoc basis without being accredited by the Council (as opposed to foreign journalists who are based in Kenya on a longer-term basis), then it is very problematical from the perspective of freedom of expression. As I mentioned yesterday, it may be legitimate to establish a statutory media council (by the way, I don't understand Rosemary's question on this - this is clearly a statutory body, ie established by law, and not a self-regulatory approach, ie established by the media themselves). But I do not think it would be legitimate for such a body to impose sanctions directly on individual journalists, as opposed to media enterprises. In the end, it is the (collective) decision to publish in the media, which involves not only the originating journalist but an editorial process, which is responsible for any harm caused by that publication. So it is the media enterprise, and not the journalist, who should respond to any complaints. Of course there may be cases where the behaviour of individual journalists may cause harm, eg by invading privacy, but these can be remedied either by civil action against the journalist or again through complaints to the media house. In practice both statutory and self-regulatory systems in democracies around the world normally address media houses, and not individual journalists as such. This is the case, for example, with the Press Complaints Commission in the UK and the Press Council in Indonesia, just to give two examples. Finally, I am concerned with the focus in section 4, functions of the Council, on setting professional/ethical standards. No less than three of the functions focus on this (4(c), (e) and (i)), in addition to the idea of resolving complaints. Is this really necessary? Toby ___________________________________ Toby Mendel Centre for Law and Democracy toby(a)law-democracy.org Tel: +1 902 431-3688 Fax: +1 902 431-3689 www.law-democracy.org

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How much does it cost to develop an iPhone application?
by S.Murigi Muraya 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

While the interesting Media Council draft bill discussions continue... and even though the IPhone and its applications are going to remain irrelevant to 99.9% (999 million) of us in Africa for the foreseeable future (at least up to 2020) http://www.marcforrest.com/2010/06/04/how-many-iphones-are-there-in-south-a… This is interesting info... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/209170/how-much-does-it-cost-to-develop-… Even here in Kenya, it is NOT easy to develop quality apps while investing less than USD 70.00 per hour (including VAT, training, equipment, bandwidth, damage control for unhealthy lifestyles) per software or web developer / designer ... Most Companies (co.ke) insist on relying on "freelance" consultants (not companies) who cannot afford to share the work or train other developers. The usual end result is well known.. Quite incredible the kind of libraries, training facilities and events that even relatively small software houses in the West have..

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