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Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Mailing List Discussions Day 7 Principles of Internet Policy Making Part 2
by Barrack Otieno 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Thank you Sam Gatere for your insightfull responses, it is unfortunate that majority of us have resorted to complaining through lists or the media when systems go live, for instance, when opendata.go.ke was launched there are those who questioned whether the data is hosted outside the country and why that decision was taken, i am not sure whom to side with in so far as the issue is concerned because the arguments for and against could all be genuine, my only concern is even as the government embarks on such noble projects which are inline with Vision 2030, are there Frameworks (principles) that will ensure that there is more emphasis on the use of local networks for data interchange to minimise dependence on Foreign carriers which might translate to Capital flight? that there is adequate Capacity to host data (especially government data locally...i would be very uncomfortable to host government data outside our borders whether in a cloud or not :-) just hoping that is not the case, how do we promote our ccTLD, najivunia kuwa .ke? , the question is who should take part and what should be their input? the discussion contninues.. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Sam Gatere <sam.gatere(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Barrack this is are interesting questions you raise and fairly well > connected to the country's vision 2030 in-terms of communications. > > First I think the Internet is a National Resource and government should be > at the fore in fostering policy making. I say this by virtue of the the fact > that the government has invested heavily in infrastructure development that > will make and is currently making high speed Internet a reality, which in > tern is also helping them achieve better service delivery to the general > public through various initiatives they have already put in place. The > private sector has also participated in this development through > partnerships with government [PPP] or direct investment making them to a > very key stakeholder and the bulk of us the users also have a stake because > we form the market. > > With the Internet becoming more readily available some issues definitely > need some backing through a policy, for example: Child protection, we have > seen how easy it is to access premium rate services via your 3G enabled cell > phone which may provide content that you may not be too comfortable having > your child /children access. Easy Access to websites that may have content > that may not be suitable or online forums where pedophiles may gain access > to young ones. > > Data protection, how safe is our private (digital) information? I need not > delve deeply in this one you can already imagine what damage that would > bring about should such information run in the wrong hands. > > On-line fraud. I'm sure this will be the next frontier for our very > ingenious "MPESA" con's once a real virtual trading environment kicks off > definitely this will be something to contend with. > > As technology progress with numerous innovations in our country it's only a > matter of time when our critical installations will be managed on-line if > there is not policy regarding how this resources would be protected. > > Civil society has a unique role to educate the general public on the need to > have policy that protects them an the resource (Internet) for the benefit of > all players. > > Keeping in mind that the Internet never forgets it's important to train all > those who have access to the Internet to be very careful what the post > on-line or on their social media portals as this information may either > incorrectly represent you or be used against you. > > SammyG > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Dear Listers, >> >> >> • Is there a rationale for principles on Internet Policy making, >> how >> should we be involved as a nation? >> • Which roles should the government, civil Society and private >> Sector >> play in developing Internet Policies? >> >> Feel free to continue contributing to previous threads, the floor is open. >> >> -- >> Barrack O. Otieno >> >> ICANN accredited registrar >> +254721325277 >> +254-20-2498789 >> Skype: barrack.otieno >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sam.gatere%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afriregister.bi, www.afriregister.com ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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INVITATION TO 2011 KENYA IGF
by David Wambua 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Dear Listers, The Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC), the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) and other participating organisations wish to invite you to the 2011 Kenya IGF to be held at the Panafric hotel in Nairobi on Friday 22nd, July 2010 from 7.00 am to 1:00 pm. The 2011 Kenya IGF is a follow up to the 2010 national IGF and the regional East Africa Internet Governance Forum 2010. The national and the regional forums aim at creating awareness,instituting a consensus building process to develop a common understanding of local IG issues as well as building capacity to enable meaningful participation in global Internet policy, governance and development processes and initiatives. The Kenya IGF will therefore provide Kenyan Internet stakeholders with an opportunity to increase their understanding of Internet governance issues and the links with socio-economic, political and cultural development and strengthen the internet governance community of practice evolving in the East Africa region. As Kenya will be hosting the 2011 global United Nations Internet Governance Forum (UN-IGF) the Kenya and EA forums will support the goals of the UN-IGF and the continued evolution of the open, multi-stakeholder internet. The outcomes of the K-IGF will be submitted and presented at the 2011 East Africa Internet Governance Forum (EA-IGF 2011) to be held in Kigali, Rwanda in August and subsequently to the global Internet Governance Forum (IGF) meeting to be held in Nairobi ,Kenya, from 27-30 September 2011. On behalf of all participating organizations, it is our pleasure to invite you to the Kenya IGF. More information can be found on the National IGF website http://www.eaigf.or.ke/nigfs/kigf.html For planning purposes, kindly send an email to kenya(a)eaigf.or.ke confirming your attendance. Regards, ............................. David I. Wambua dot KE for Every Name in Kenya! -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KeNIC MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Kenya Network Information Center (KENIC)

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Kenya IGF 2011 Discussions Day 6 Broadband
by Barrack Otieno 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Dear Listers, • As a nation do we need a comprehensive policy on broadband, if so what should it contain? • Does the current ICT Policy ensure that the country maximizes on the potential of the available broadband? the floor is open, feel free to continue contributing to the previous threads. Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Copyright Alert System announcement
by Alice Munyua 08 Jul '11

08 Jul '11

See attached, interesting development in the U.S. on online piracy. Leaders from the movie, television, music and Internet Service provider communities in the U.S. announced a landmark agreement on a common framework for "Copyright Alerts" - a state-of-the art system similar to the credit card fraud alerts - that will educate and notify Internet subscribers when their Internet service accounts are possibly being misused for online content theft. In our view, this is a reasonable and balanced approach that addresses the problem, by providing standards for copyright owners and Internet service providers, while respecting the privacy and rights of our subscribers. best Alice

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Internet Rights and Principles in Swahili!
by Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) 08 Jul '11

08 Jul '11

Habari zenu, Pateni hapa Haki na Kanuni 10 za Mtandao wa Internet. Hati hii yapatikana katika lugha ya Kiingereza na pia lugha nyingine kwenye anwani hii: www.internetrightsandprinciples.org heri njema, -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)

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(c) 2011 Kenya Open Data Project. All rights reserved. : Please Explain...
by [ Brainiac ] 08 Jul '11

08 Jul '11

Sorry for cross posting but i have to throw in the spanner: Someone please explain the context and limitation of the data, and what exactly is Copyrighted. Considering the issues raised by one of us in another discussion, I suggest a copyleft: [ MIT, GNU or some other well understood copyright on that website). Data Yetu, Haki Yetu! Cheers. -- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”* ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696

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ECA and AIF launch prestigious February 2012 African Innovation Prize
by alice＠apc.org 08 Jul '11

08 Jul '11

The United Nations Economic Commission for Africa (ECA) and the African Innovation Foundation (AIF) are delighted to announce the African Innovation Prize (AIP) to be awarded for the first time in February 2012. This prestigious and well-endowed award aims at encouraging innovations that contribute to sustainable development in Africa.With this award, AIF and UNECA acknowledge, support and encourage innovators and entrepreneurs- the group of stakeholders who till now have been neither considered nor benefited under Africa’s development cooperation agenda."Innovation is a combination of identifying problems, and finding groundbreaking implementable solutions; we hope the prizes will contribute to tapping into the ingenuity of Africans to solve Africa’s problems,” says the ECA Executive Secretary and Under-Secretary General, Mr. Abdoulie Janneh. He adds: “Currently, ideas, innovation and knowledge are what is driving the world, and transforming economies. It is therefore fitting and appropriate that the African Innovation Prize is targeting a unique group of stakeholders - innovators and inventors in the area of ICTs, Green Technologies and Health & Food Security.”“The AIF is very proud of the cooperation with ECA and expects numerous innovation projects to compete for the prize. There is so much untapped talent on this continent,” adds Mr. Walter Fust, Chairman of the AIF.The amount allocated towards the winners for the selected innovators and entrepreneurs, in the three thematic areas of ICTs; Green Technologies; Health & Food Security are two generous prizes: First prize USD 100,000; and USD 50000 for the second prize. The registration deadline for the 2012 prize has been set for September 30th, 2011 with no possibility of extensions.The organizers expect the prize to promote among young African men and women the pursuit of science, technology and engineering careers and business applications. The aims are to:- Create a platform for identification of innovative concepts and projects submitted by applicants that could be supported by AIP;- Promote innovation across Africa in key sectors of interest through the competition;- Promote science, technology and engineering as rewarding, exciting and noble career options among the youth in Africa by profiling successful applicants; and- Encourage entrepreneurs, innovators, funding bodies and business development service providers to exchange ideas and explore innovative business opportunities.In pursuing those aims, the AIP expects the following outcomes:- Increased commercialization of research and development (R&D) outputs in Africa;- Increased development of start-up, adoption of new and emerging technologies and accelerate growth of an innovative and dynamic private sector; and- Increased general economic activities that result in long term sustainable developmentOver the coming five years, AIP will be targeting innovators/entrepreneurs in different thematic areas to be determined each year by the Technical Advisory Committee.For detailed information of competition categories, conditions of entry, and submission procedures, please visit: http://www.uneca.org/AIF/AIP_______________________________________

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Kenya IGF 2011 Mailing List Discussions Day 7 Principles of Internet Policy Making
by Barrack Otieno 08 Jul '11

08 Jul '11

Dear Listers, • Is there a rationale for principles on Internet Policy making, how should we be involved as a nation? • Which roles should the government, civil Society and private Sector play in developing Internet Policies? Feel free to continue contributing to previous threads, the floor is open. -- Barrack O. Otieno ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Silicon Savanna-It can be done
by james ratemo 07 Jul '11

07 Jul '11

I share in this great vision. Building capacity at the grass roots is the way to go. I believe if the idea is shovelled through universities it can go along way. this is my idea. You let IT/Computer Science graduates or students seeking attachment to volunteer and run with it as an option. Have a portal where they can express interest and egion they are willing to serve. Have a contact person and let thembe guided on what to do. You will be surprised how many that will show up...appreciate their efforts with certificates of participation or letters of reference. I would do the same if I were a student seeking to pass on my experience for the benefit of community. Second, have an online based video lesson that can assist the grassroot trainers or those willing to adopt a 'DO IT YOURSElF' approach. The concept is interesting and worth blogging and writing about. Niko nyuma yenu maximum. Execution is the key word On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Crystal Watley Kigoni < crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org> wrote: > This is great! > > We are running trainings every day in Western through youth volunteers. It > is a challenge to meet the excess demand. > > This lead us to develop an e-learning platform so we can extend our reach. > Would any of the volunteers be willing to record the sessions or create > video content? We would make it available countrywide for free. As of now we > have a list of 10 centers in Kenya and 22 in Ghana who are waiting for > access to the content. Our first round of courses will be launched in > August. > > In September after we feel we have enough content and have a solid > platform, we will actively be seeking to make it available to as many > training centers and youth (through the Internet) as possible. > > Any takers? > > Best, > > Crystal > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Barrack Otieno < > otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree with Ediths suggestion Daktari, i am also available to >> contribute my expertise and one or two volunteers. >> >> Best Regards >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Catherine Adeya <elizaslider(a)yahoo.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Daktari, >>> >>> I love your idea of people volunteering their time to help those in the >>> rural areas especially to build capacity. A number are already doing it in >>> their own way. I wonder if there could be a structured way to do it. Maybe a >>> centralized place where people can drop their names (and expertise) if need >>> be, areas where they would like to volunteer etc. And if possible they can >>> be matched with relevant people in these areas; the link person in those >>> areas could be the District Information Officers (I hope that is what they >>> are called). This is just me running away with ideas....but only if >>> possible. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Nyaki >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* "bitange(a)jambo.co.ke" <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >>> *To:* elizaslider(a)yahoo.com >>> >>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> *Sent:* Mon, July 4, 2011 3:28:04 PM >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Silicon Savanna >>> >>> Andrew, >>> Thanks. We are doing something for our rural folks. I am a bit frustrated >>> that it is moving slowly. If we take is as a collective responsibility, we >>> shall move much faster. >>> >>> If you live in urban areas and you can volunteer time for your rural >>> folks, please let me know. We are working to get either a tablet or a note >>> book to all high school kids but this will require massive training. We >>> need not spend money on training if all of us donated time to educate our >>> rural students. We shall succeed with hardware but need help in building >>> capacities. Let me have your "opinions". >>> >>> Ndemo. >>> Sent from my BlackBerry® >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Andrew Limo <andrew.limo(a)yahoo.com> >>> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 00:30:26 >>> To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Subject: [kictanet] Silicon Savanna >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/elizaslider%40yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail… >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Barrack O. Otieno >> Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >> www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com/>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com/> >> <http://www.afriregister.com/>ICANN accredited registrar >> +254721325277 >> +254-20-2498789 >> Skype: barrack.otieno >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafri… >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > Crystal "Naliaka" Watley Kigoni > Executive Director > Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development > crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org > http://www.voicesofafrica.org/ > > Twitter: VOA4SD > Skype: crystal.naliaka > Facebook group: Voices of Africa<http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_103722386364001&ap=1#%21/group.ph…> > Facebook cause: Voices of Africa<http://www.causes.com/causes/102634-voices-of-africa-for-sustainable-develo…> > YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/CrystalKigoni > LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20585778&trk=tab_pro> > > > > "You must be the change you wish to see" - Gandhi > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jratemo%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- James Ratemo Online Sub-editor/ICT reporter Nation Media Group, P.O Box 49010-00100, Nairobi Cell Phone: 0724960649 OR 0731960649 Email: jratemo(a)ke.nationmedia.com <Emaili-jratemo(a)standardmedia.co.ke> or ratemoj(a)hotmail.com <jamrats2001(a)yahoo.com> Website:www.jamesratemo.wordpress.com <http://www.ictcradle.com/>. Twitter accounts: http://twitter.com/kenyacurrent or http://twitter.com/jamesratemo Skype account:ratemoj My facebook account: http://www.facebook.com/Rats.the.menace Who is rich? He that is content. Who is that? No one.

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Silicon Savanna
by Andrew Limo 07 Jul '11

07 Jul '11

The Time [July, 11] has profiled and sign-posted Kenya’s technology prowess- The Silicon Savanna. Commenting on the deliberations of the recent conference for mobile-phone software geeks, Pivot25, the reporter marvels at the high adoption rate of mobile applications Kenya and Africa. “ For the first time, hundreds of millions of people found themselves in a sort of grid, one that allowed them to talk to one another”. But emerging innovations and resilience should not really surprise anyone. Africans are not creating anything new using these gadgets. They only use them to escalate what they have been doing. Our value systems honor the sharing of resources and Mpesa has only helped to amplify the age-long practice. If we like saying a few unkind words to each other face-to-face, we will say more on SMS. If we pickpocket and pilfer offline, we siphon and defraud online. It is the amounts and scales that change, not the values. The good thing about the emerging technologies though is that they are universal, democratic and quite liberating (of course for those with access and know-how). They invent and patent the gadgets in the other world but we are proving to be the king users. They invented the car but never gave us the source code. We could not also access it remotely. The Internet is one civilization we will not be denied. The digital zealots like PS Ndemo have helped spur growth in the tech sector. My worry is if the rural communities are not connected soon, we will only succeed in bridging the digital divide with the world as a country. The elite, who are anyway endowed in other aspects of life, will continue to prosper from innovations. And technology will be found wanting in the scales of bridging the undesirable rich-poor divide.

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Re: [kictanet] KCB-Posta partnership in agency banking
by Andrea Bohnstedt 07 Jul '11

07 Jul '11

Mwendwa made a good point on the post office versus the post bank (see below). I sent out the two links in a rush yesterday, so didn't even think that far. I've had a quick google look at PostBank and it looks like they are using the agency banking concept themselves to widen their reach: http://www.postbank.co.ke/this.news.php?title=Agency%20Banking%20with%20Pos… Also, I suspect that part of the explanation might lie in what KCB and Postbank can do: As far as I can see from the Postbank website, the corporation can only accept desposits, but cannot intermediate these, i.e. cannot provide loans (I've seen some online references that it was thinking about introducing these services, but am not sure how far that went). KCB is a full commercial bank, so it can do both deposits and loans. I think agents can't decide on loan applications, but they can disburse loan payments, and accept repayments. Does anyone know more? On 7 July 2011 10:46, lordmwesh <lordmwesh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I thought Post(a) was the same as Post(bank) some years back. > > Therefore I can deduce that Post Bank should be the first to do agency > banking with Posta > > Regards > Mwendwa > > On 6 July 2011 16:15, Andrea Bohnstedt < > andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I trust that this will interest a couple of people on the list :) >> >> KCB and Postal Corporation of Kenya sign an agency banking deal >> >> http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201107063966/Corporate-Press-Releases/Kenya-P… >> >> Not sure if I sent round the link for this article we recently did on >> agency banking? >> >> http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201106223957/Kenya/Expanding-Financial-Servic… >> >> Have a good afternoon, >> Andrea >> >> >> -- >> Andrea Bohnstedt <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/andreabohnstedt> >> Publisher >> +254 720 960 322 >> >> www.ratio-magazine.com >> Find/post East Africa careers<http://www.ratio-magazine.com/careers/index.php> >> Find/post conferences, workshops, trainings, other business events<http://www.ratio-magazine.com/businessevents/index.php> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lordmwesh%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > ______________________ > twitter.com/lordmwesh > transworldAfrica.com <http://transworldafrica.com/> | Fluent in computing > kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know > > -- Andrea Bohnstedt <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/andreabohnstedt> Publisher +254 720 960 322 www.ratio-magazine.com Find/post East Africa careers<http://www.ratio-magazine.com/careers/index.php> Find/post conferences, workshops, trainings, other business events<http://www.ratio-magazine.com/businessevents/index.php>

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CCK Statistics - is this correct?
by Francis Hook 07 Jul '11

07 Jul '11

I have just been looking at the recent CCK Sector Stats report http://www.cck.go.ke/resc/statistics/SECTOR_STATISTICS_REPORT_Q2_2010-11_x2… With reference to internet connections as given on page 16 of that report, it shows a HUGE decline (-54.3%) in fibre connections between two quarters from 8, 369 to 3,824. I gather fibre cuts have plagued operators but they have nonetheless been forging ahead laying fibre (metro fibre mainly) for residential and business use. Is this correct? Perhaps someone from CCK can clarify? Maybe operators themselves can validate/refute this? -- Francis Hook +254 733 504561

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KCB-Posta partnership in agency banking
by Andrea Bohnstedt 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Dear all, I trust that this will interest a couple of people on the list :) KCB and Postal Corporation of Kenya sign an agency banking deal http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201107063966/Corporate-Press-Releases/Kenya-P… Not sure if I sent round the link for this article we recently did on agency banking? http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201106223957/Kenya/Expanding-Financial-Servic… Have a good afternoon, Andrea -- Andrea Bohnstedt <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/andreabohnstedt> Publisher +254 720 960 322 www.ratio-magazine.com Find/post East Africa careers<http://www.ratio-magazine.com/careers/index.php> Find/post conferences, workshops, trainings, other business events<http://www.ratio-magazine.com/businessevents/index.php>

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Kenya IGF 2011 List Discussions Day 4 Cloud Computing
by Barrack Otieno 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Well said John Gitau, you have introduced interesting perspectives such as Net Neutrality which has been a topic of discussion for two consecutive years in the Internet Governance Forum and is likely to feature this year. It advocates for all traffic on the Internet to be treated equally, i hope Mich and other peering experts can comment on this, meanwhile i am ropping in Vladimir Radunovic a key Net neutrality crusader to comment on why net neutrality is important for developing economies. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, John Gitau <jgitau(a)gmail.com> wrote: > So to add on to Michuki's post earlier, As a country, someone > somewhere should be looking at the strategy (short,medium and long > term) for Kenya as a regional ICT hub and where data centers and cloud > services come in. They should be tying that into the infrastructure > and the technical know how. Carrier specific Data centers will take > care of most of the demand from multinationals. > > What I have concern for is how the average Kenyan takes advantage of > this computing capacity, There is an awareness 'hole' that might end > up just creating excess unnused capacity (this might not necessarily > affect a carrier neutral DC). It should be so easy to host 'stuff', > stream 'stuff', share 'stuff' with my friends and neighbors. Start > small, install IP camera's in your estate, share the feed, get > excited; when your storage needs surpass what you have, go cloud or > whatever. My point here being that the issue is not so much cloud as > how to use the cloud computing resources - for most people. Alot of > people say cloud and expect everyone to understand what they mean. > > This discussion for me brings out other issues from the woods: > - Net neutrality > - Local content - and where it is hosted. > - Unbundled local loops - Im so happy to see Zuku's fiber outside my > door, but that ties me to Zuku, imagine if the city council owned that > fiber and I could choose my provider based on services I need. > - At the counties I think the local governement/municipal has a huge > opportunity to take control of how fiber connectivity gets to the > homes and actually make money off it. Maybe we should have a model > 'connected county'. > > In the meantime, we'll trudge on, the way I see it, this road ends at > a happy place. I also expect a major disruption soon. > > JGitau > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Thank you Mich for the insightfull response coming at a time when we >> are looking forwad to the open data initiative at the end of this >> week, John welcome on board the thread is still open feel free to >> comment >> >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Maux <mauxdatabase(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi Guys, >>> My understanding of cloud computing is basically a shared/distributed >>> service that allows for the massive storage of data. >>> Through application interfaces a developer/entrepreneur can access this data >>> and make a business out of it and most importantly scale. >>> Using Google as an example it may not be able develop every niche product >>> out there so it opens up its platform to developers either through android >>> or chrome and plans to take a cut through its payment system google wallet. >>> In the case of Kenya, Government owns/holds most of the data available and >>> hence should lead the way in creating a Shared services and Cloud computing >>> policy. >>> That is why the Open Data Initiative is an idea whose time has come. >>> What is the most efficient way of managing this process? I think making >>> businesses out of it is probably the most sustainable way. >>> By the way I am John Karanja Founder of Whive.com and we too are offering a >>> SMS based cloud service for storing mobile contacts across web and mobile >>> platforms. >>> This is my first post on skunkworks and I hope to interact with you guys in >>> the future. >>> Best, >>> John >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you Paul, Lucy and Aki for responding to issues raised by >>>> listers, i do hope we will all be available for the Face to Face >>>> meeting to cement our networks and look at how we can assist our >>>> governmnet since we are part and parcel of, feel free to continue >>>> contributing to the debate. >>>> >>>> Best Regards >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:29 AM, aki <aki275(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > @Paul Kukubo, thanks for the input. Some of us very aware of the cloud >>>> > opportunities and applications. Whether we take virtualization of data >>>> > storage to creating terminal services, these environments exist. Whether >>>> > SME >>>> > or startups, they need cost cutting and affordable ways to maintain ICT >>>> > continuity without breaking the bank. >>>> > >>>> > You bring a key point about Govt being the driver of data storage and >>>> > management, yet there is a big disconnect between the private sector >>>> > such as >>>> > ISPs, Telcos, Developers and Govt. At this infant stage of clouding, in >>>> > whatever context we may look at, Govt support is key as a catalyst of >>>> > what >>>> > cloud services could become. I strongly insist that all Govt projects >>>> > should >>>> > be kept within the borders and systems of KE. We need this ownership and >>>> > aslo the ability to use the existing infrastructure. Govt needs to open >>>> > up >>>> > the world class data centre for private/public use and also its >>>> > infrastructure like fiber so that anyone planning a system or such can >>>> > know >>>> > what the options are, besides other networks and services. There is no >>>> > need >>>> > to put up many data centres, if we already core ones in place. >>>> > >>>> > As govt representative, you also need to comeup with a development >>>> > register >>>> > that will notify Kenyans of planned projects and those interested can >>>> > have >>>> > ample planning and resource time to engage in such projects. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Rgds. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>> > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Barrack O. Otieno >>>> Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >>>> www.afriregister.bi, www.afriregister.com >>>> ICANN accredited registrar >>>> +254721325277 >>>> +254-20-2498789 >>>> Skype: barrack.otieno >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Barrack O. Otieno >> Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >> www.afriregister.bi, www.afriregister.com >> ICANN accredited registrar >> +254721325277 >> +254-20-2498789 >> Skype: barrack.otieno >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > **Gitau > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afriregister.bi, www.afriregister.com ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Policy Discussions Day 5 Cyber Security and Privacy
by Barrack Otieno 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Thanks Ty, for the comprehensive response, you rightly mention the fact that there are many strategies but execution is the problem, I recently heard an interesting speech by his excellency the president at the military academy in Lanet where he urged the academy to equip itself against emerging threats through enhanced curricula , I assumed emerging threats include Cybercrime, what is the role of Universities and academic institutions in combating Cybercrime in view of the recent collaborative efforts between KU, Egerton and our uniformed forces? On 7/5/11, ty <tyruskam(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Barrack, See inline, > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Barrack Otieno > <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Dear Listers, >> >> · With Cyber Security threats increasing at an alarming rate, >> what strategies can we embrace as a nation to address and combat >> the threats? >> > > To start with, my biggest approach has been compliance. What do I mean? Some > 3-4 years ago, we had a debate on Kictanet and Skunkworks as well about what > measure companies and the Government should take to curb Cyberthreats which > include but arent limited to Identity Theft, online and mobile money > laundering, core infrastructure security etc etc. For starters, the biggest > threat comes from none other than we humans. Any deployment carried out > without a thoroughly thought out strategy will fail dismally in so many > fronts. > Personally I applaud the Govt for seeing the importance of having policies > in place but my fear and worry has always been execution. The Kenya Police > website hack is barely even the icing on the cake as to how far deep cyber > crime can root itself. Even more sad is that in certain instances some > corporate outfits boasting of offering Information Security awareness, > assessments etc do a piecemeal job at it. This is akin to someone assessing > your house and if he identifies that your door is the most vulnerable entry > point and proceeds to recommend you to repaint your door! > > My opinion would be to raise awareness via such forums. Initially when > skunkworks began, there was a very strong drive to hold talks over subjects > such as this (I thank the mods for offering me an opportunity to present on > one occasion). I would also encourage the Govt to see through the efforts in > place to ensure that compliance and standards revolving around the fast > growing world of IT are implemented and arent just white elephant projects. > > · What initiatives are needed to ensure there is sufficient >> awareness and education on Cyber threats? >> > Lets take social networking as a case study. Most people hardly think twice > when signing up or logging into any social network. The amount of > information you give away is an all too familiar subject which most people > either ignore or find too pedestrian to contemplate. Another front to think > about it online/mobile transactions. Do you trust whoever you are providing > your banking/credit card details? What level of compliance (ISO 27001/PCI > DSS) are they adhering to? A third front is the latest boy in the yard, > cloud computing. Do you feel safe relinquishing all your data to some cloud? > Who else is accessing that cloud. Like I always say, Cyber crime is like a > cancer, it slowly creeps and once manifested, the consequences are grave. > Case in point, the recent Lulzsec saga and HB Gary's incident. > > On a technical level, I would advocate for Red Teaming (google is your > friend) as a methodology to identify potential threats upto and including > physical penetration etc. For those in security (CISA, CISSP, CEH etc etc > etc), its time to stop with the mentality of "someone could break into > this". go ahead and show your clients how horrible the world can be. If you > are protecting against a static threat then security becomes a very easy > task for anyone. But that's not the nature of things. We have dynamic > threats which need continuous assessments, user training and awareness. > > I know the above goes against compliance. Saying you are compliant is > equivalent to saying you have bread in your cupboard and claiming that no > can break through into your house. > > > Strictly my opinion and I welcome anyone else's > > -ty > >> >> >> the floor is open, feel free to continue commenting on previous threads. >> >> Best Regards >> -- >> Barrack O. Otieno >> >> +254721325277 >> +254-20-2498789 >> Skype: barrack.otieno >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > -- Sent from my mobile device Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Kenya IGF 2011 List Discussions Day 4 Cloud Computing
by Barrack Otieno 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Thank you Mich for the insightfull response coming at a time when we are looking forwad to the open data initiative at the end of this week, John welcome on board the thread is still open feel free to comment On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Maux <mauxdatabase(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Guys, > My understanding of cloud computing is basically a shared/distributed > service that allows for the massive storage of data. > Through application interfaces a developer/entrepreneur can access this data > and make a business out of it and most importantly scale. > Using Google as an example it may not be able develop every niche product > out there so it opens up its platform to developers either through android > or chrome and plans to take a cut through its payment system google wallet. > In the case of Kenya, Government owns/holds most of the data available and > hence should lead the way in creating a Shared services and Cloud computing > policy. > That is why the Open Data Initiative is an idea whose time has come. > What is the most efficient way of managing this process? I think making > businesses out of it is probably the most sustainable way. > By the way I am John Karanja Founder of Whive.com and we too are offering a > SMS based cloud service for storing mobile contacts across web and mobile > platforms. > This is my first post on skunkworks and I hope to interact with you guys in > the future. > Best, > John > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Thank you Paul, Lucy and Aki for responding to issues raised by >> listers, i do hope we will all be available for the Face to Face >> meeting to cement our networks and look at how we can assist our >> governmnet since we are part and parcel of, feel free to continue >> contributing to the debate. >> >> Best Regards >> >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:29 AM, aki <aki275(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > @Paul Kukubo, thanks for the input. Some of us very aware of the cloud >> > opportunities and applications. Whether we take virtualization of data >> > storage to creating terminal services, these environments exist. Whether >> > SME >> > or startups, they need cost cutting and affordable ways to maintain ICT >> > continuity without breaking the bank. >> > >> > You bring a key point about Govt being the driver of data storage and >> > management, yet there is a big disconnect between the private sector >> > such as >> > ISPs, Telcos, Developers and Govt. At this infant stage of clouding, in >> > whatever context we may look at, Govt support is key as a catalyst of >> > what >> > cloud services could become. I strongly insist that all Govt projects >> > should >> > be kept within the borders and systems of KE. We need this ownership and >> > aslo the ability to use the existing infrastructure. Govt needs to open >> > up >> > the world class data centre for private/public use and also its >> > infrastructure like fiber so that anyone planning a system or such can >> > know >> > what the options are, besides other networks and services. There is no >> > need >> > to put up many data centres, if we already core ones in place. >> > >> > As govt representative, you also need to comeup with a development >> > register >> > that will notify Kenyans of planned projects and those interested can >> > have >> > ample planning and resource time to engage in such projects. >> > >> > >> > Rgds. >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Barrack O. Otieno >> Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >> www.afriregister.bi, www.afriregister.com >> ICANN accredited registrar >> +254721325277 >> +254-20-2498789 >> Skype: barrack.otieno >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afriregister.bi, www.afriregister.com ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Policy Discussions Day 5 Cyber Security and Privacy
by Barrack Otieno 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Dear Listers, · With Cyber Security threats increasing at an alarming rate, what strategies can we embrace as a nation to address and combat the threats? · What initiatives are needed to ensure there is sufficient awareness and education on Cyber threats? the floor is open, feel free to continue commenting on previous threads. Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Kenya IGF 2011 List Discussions Day 4 Cloud Computing
by Barrack Otieno 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Thank you Paul, Lucy and Aki for responding to issues raised by listers, i do hope we will all be available for the Face to Face meeting to cement our networks and look at how we can assist our governmnet since we are part and parcel of, feel free to continue contributing to the debate. Best Regards On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:29 AM, aki <aki275(a)gmail.com> wrote: > @Paul Kukubo, thanks for the input. Some of us very aware of the cloud > opportunities and applications. Whether we take virtualization of data > storage to creating terminal services, these environments exist. Whether SME > or startups, they need cost cutting and affordable ways to maintain ICT > continuity without breaking the bank. > > You bring a key point about Govt being the driver of data storage and > management, yet there is a big disconnect between the private sector such as > ISPs, Telcos, Developers and Govt. At this infant stage of clouding, in > whatever context we may look at, Govt support is key as a catalyst of what > cloud services could become. I strongly insist that all Govt projects should > be kept within the borders and systems of KE. We need this ownership and > aslo the ability to use the existing infrastructure. Govt needs to open up > the world class data centre for private/public use and also its > infrastructure like fiber so that anyone planning a system or such can know > what the options are, besides other networks and services. There is no need > to put up many data centres, if we already core ones in place. > > As govt representative, you also need to comeup with a development register > that will notify Kenyans of planned projects and those interested can have > ample planning and resource time to engage in such projects. > > > Rgds. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afriregister.bi, www.afriregister.com ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 List Discussions Day 4 Cloud Computing
by Barrack Otieno 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Dear Listers, 1. What role should the government play to promote cloud computing in Kenya? 2. What practical steps should we take as a nation that will move cloud computing from a lofty idea into a strategic commercial resource? -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 List Discussions Day 4 Cloud Computing
by Sam Aguyo 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Hello Listners, Under the cloud business concept - Infrastructure as a Service - IaaS, there are private clouds – which Francis alluded to in an earlier posting. That is a dedicated, or leased, portion of a provider’s hosted facilities. Also, the public cloud which are designed as a multi-tenant environment. More regulatory compliance is required on public clouds since these clouds do not observe geographical boundaries. Therefore, industries which are concerned with the physical location of sensitive data may be reluctant to go public, they would not pass an audit. In terms of cost, public are less expensive due to its multi tenancy concept. Organizations do not buy, install, operate or maintain servers or other equipment. However, private are more expensive since the client has to transfer all the computing power and underlying software to the providers site. Considering these scenarios, it is imperative to define a niche and build policy frameworks that would spur the growth of either one or both. Regards, Sam ________________________________ From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> To: saguyo(a)yahoo.com Cc: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 2:23:23 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 List Discussions Day 4 Cloud Computing Note: Forwarded message is attached. Barrack Otieno (otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com) is not on your Guest List | Approve sender | Approve domain

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Kenya IGF 2011 List Discussions Day 4 Cloud Computing
by Barrack Otieno 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

You bring an interesting dimension to the debate Mich, i agree with your perspective as well. Best Regards On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki(a)swiftkenya.com>wrote: > @Aki, > > Am going to play the devils advocate here :). > > On 7/5/11 7:51 AM, aki wrote: > > > > Why would the govt promote cloud computing as a national importance when > > they gave out the digitization project to Google? Our data now sits on > > Google servers! > > > > Why not?. > > > > I believe that those interested in cloud services should shun these > > until the govt leads on such, > > Please tell me is there any local company in Kenya that can provide > services that can compete or match Google's cloud services?. > > > I also think that before we proceed on any further discussions, we need > > to know why the Govt choose Google as the cloud service. > > > > Maybe we should compare it to this. Why is the Govt going for VW Passats > yet we have the Nyayo Pioneer car idling somewhere or am i mistaken?. > > > But on a more serious note - has anyone build an infrastructure here and > am not talking about a Data Center with all the bells and whistles. Am > talking about a service framework that is scalable and robust enough to > make the GoK think twice about giving their services to that provider?. > Here am not talking about the scale of Google am talking small enough to > handle GoK but scalable to handle all of E.A Govts and more without > breaking. > > We are lacking in many extends from both technical expertise (and am > sure many folks will differ with me on this one) and more driven by the > $ than by the technology to care to know how to build it all together. > > We have been quick to say that why reinvent the wheel in so many of the > forums here (including myself). However, the downside of not reinventing > the wheel is we take the wheel and use it without understanding why it > was built that way - we just know that we need it and we use it (see > Joomla discussion). > > In conclusion, we have quickly to making revenues from a technology we > barely understand. As a result, those who understand it better will > always outcompete the rest of us. > > If you think about it - long before there was cloud folks had something > called rocketmail and hotmail. Then came yahoo and even then their > business model was a mystery to many in actual sense online advertising > was still a distant concept in 1997 - 2000. But see what they lead to > today. So basically they made the wheel and improved on the wheel and > now its no longer a wheel but a mirage of a wheel. > > My 2 cents. > > Michuki. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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How secure is mpesa
by robert yawe 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Hi, I am writing this post with a heavy heart as it will likely reverse gains that have been made in the ecommerce and ebanking/mbanking environment. A client of mine, who shall remain unnamed for now in typical Kenya fashion, runs a site that accepts payments using the mpesa paybill system. Due to the close similarity in various paybill number there has been a tendency for people to send money to the account erroneously. As the errors have grown over time the client has had to come up with a way to manage the reversals so us to reduce the impact on their operations. Last week Safaricom accessed the paybill number's account and initiated reversals without notifying them. How sure is Safaricom that the person who indicated that they had sent the money to the wrong number had not already consumed services? As the post master general in waiting I am concerned that such action would have negative effect on ecommerce as reversal of a transaction based on the request of one party will definitely harm the other. The reversed transaction still incurs the owner of the paybill number a cost that is not reversed, this issue was previously raised with the former MD of Safaricom Mr. Michael Joseph who instructed one of the managers to look into and resolve. It has been over 2 years and the issue is yet to be concluded. This action also indicates the issue of Safaricom mistreating SME organisations, if the error was made with the KPLC or Co-Op Bank accounts would the staff have the audacity to make direct reversals on the system? I believe the term for such action is blatant impunity that can only be practised by a monopolistic player in an industry. With a heavy heart I send this post hoping that it will act as a wake up call both to Safaricom and the regulators (CCK & Central Bank) that we need better control and monitoring of the money transfer market otherwise we stand to scare the public which would result in its slow down. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From:Eugene Lidede (Synergy) [mailto: eugene(a)synergy.co.ke ] Sent: 04 July 2011 09:05 To: robertyawe(a)synergy.co.ke Subject: M-PESA irregularities Robert, As we spoke; i) Safaricom is now directly manipulating transactions in our M-PESA account without our consent or any manner of reference to us. Is this proper? (see red circle in picture below) ii) They never refund monies deducted from us resulting from the said reversals despite the fact that we are not party to initiating the “wrong payments” (see blue circle). These are wrong payments intended for co-op bank’s 400200 but instead sent to our 400100. iii) This issue has been outstanding since October last year during Michael Josephs days. Safaricom has refused to sort it out. Several emails to their M-PESA department regarding this issue have gone unanswered even those specifically addressed to the referenced Caroline lady. iv) With the deteriorating relationship, it might be time we considered PesaPal, ZAP and Orange money seriously as a payment platform for our retail subscribers Regards Eugene Lidede | Chief Technology Officer | Synergy Systems Limited 6th Floor, Phoenix House, Kenyatta Ave. | Cell: +254 721 289497/476367 | Tel: +254 20 2113163 live.mystocks.co.ke | www.propertykenya.com | www.mystocks.co.ke Outstanding Online Investment Content Provider 2009– Computer Society of Kenya

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 List Discussions Day 4 Cloud Computing
by Barrack Otieno 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

@ Aki, thank you for your contribution , the same case applies to @ Lordmwesh, the threads are open for further discussions they are not limited to the days, i once saw a presentation in one of the KicTANET meetings which outlined some of the nodes, i hope we will be able to find it before the end of the debate should it still exist which could answer your question, i have gone through the Ministry of Information and Communication website and cant seem to find the statistics, IMHO this falls squarely within the mandate of Kenya ICT board and i do hope Paul Kukubo or one of the offices at the board will be kind enough to give the statistics. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:11 PM, aki <aki275(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > @Barrack, as a final contirbute to this cloud discussion thread, Dr Ndemo > raised a very important point. That all government offices are connected to > Fiber. I believe this should be country wide? May we seriously have a list > of all terminations and capacity of the fiber country wide. Am also awaiting > the info on cloud services offered by Govt and the govt data centre. These > are important statistics. > > Rgds. > > > -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Local Content Perception survey
by dmbuvi＠gmail.com 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out online: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGxnQkdyVktKUn… Local Content Perception survey I, Dennis Mbuvi will be part of a panel at the upcoming AITEC Broadcast and Film Africa (BFA) [http://www.aitecafrica.com/event/view/71] conference. I will be discussing challenges facing content producers in Africa. I would like to collect your views on locally produced content, especially your commercial perspective. The questions below are all optional, but please assist by answering as much as you can. The survey covers digital content ie movies, music, animations, electronic books. Would you buy any locally produced content - music, video (movies,animation), literature Local Content refers to local music, local movies and local ebooks Yes No Have you ever bought any locally produced digital content? Yes No If you have purchased locally produced content, how much of it have you purchased in total 1 copy 1 - 5 copies 5 - 10 copies more than 10 copies At what price would you be comfortable purchasing locally produced music at? eg Kshs 50, Kshs 100, Kshs 500 At what price would you be comfortable purchasing locally produced video content at? eg Kshs 50, Kshs 100, Kshs 500 How would you rate the majority of locally produced content? High Average Below Average Do you believe content producers are doing enough to market their content in Africa? Why do you say so? Any additional remarks on locally produced content Powered by Google Docs Report Abuse - Terms of Service - Additional Terms

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by Rehanah Mohammed 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

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